Simon Veteran Posted November 5, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2005 I've actually done some amount of web work by hand! Go to http://205.251.3.104/blogger, and see the amazing work! I need a bit of help though. The header on my blog should be more like the one on http://205.251.3.104/preview/index.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuckeratlarge Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Jebus what are you looking at that on, the colours make it difficult to read. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586769992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Sn00pY Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I'm Sorry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586769996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 insanekiwi Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 the text is really hard to read, especially the gray on black and the neon green. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 5, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2005 Ya, I know. I haven't completely finished, its still a work in progress. But it is still pretty exciting for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kerm Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 It looks crap to me. But congrats on making it on your own, i guess. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MrStoo Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 It's a nice site but change the background and make the text bigger and clear to read, then you will be alright :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 golazo Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 that would look great if the colors weren't ****ed up Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 5, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2005 I fixed the colors. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 X@vier Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I fixed the colors. 586770496[/snapback] still hard to read :blink: X@vier Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 windows95isg8 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Its a really nice site I think, I can read it with no problems. A lot of people on here have problems with there eyes lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 5, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2005 The text is white on black, can't see why people would have problems... EDIT: And for those of you who think it sucks, see what i had before. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 5, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2005 I increased the font size. Took a while to figure out that it was controlled by a percentage. I switched it from 75% to 90% Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586770569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 teh h4x0r5 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I actually prefer the other one, but hey. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586772050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 The other one is default though. There are THOUSANDS of other blogs that look like the old one. I keep putting a ***load of work into things, and everyone here can only focus on the negative things. Its really annoying. Everyone I know has said it looks great, but when I get here its just "I can't read it" or "My eyes hirt" or something else. I put a lot of hard work into my layouts, everyone except people on this forum (not everyone, im not being prejudiced) think they look great and I should keep it up. I'm 13 years old. I've been doing this for 2 years. I'm not up to all your levels, but I want the smallest bit of respect for the hours I spent last night putting this together. EDIT: Its not even the whole forum. Its the web programming forum. Thats the only one I have a problem with. Everywhere else, people are curtious. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586772611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bant Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 web developers are very uppity. get used to it ;) it always feels great when you complete something youve spent a lot of time on, but that doesnt mean it is a good design, and just because you feel good about it, doesnt mean others will. it is a lot easier to be ruthless online. you will not get respect just by spending lots of time on a design. keep it up though. the more you work at it the better you will get. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586772628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 Thanks. I know, I just got really frustrated, I've done 3 designs that people hated, and one (the website version of this, I might add, with content instead of a blog) that was ok. Sorry about the rant, but I don't really want to know that the old one was better. It does sort of anger me, even if the new one isn't all that great. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586772635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 parhamreza Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 So you came here to be praised for your work? They're giving you constructive critisicm on your layout so you can make it better. Don't get offended. What difference does it make if 100 people you don't and never will know praise if you can't use their comments to improve your site. And don't flash your age around like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586772721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 turkishdelight Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 It's not bad, but some things could use a bit of improvement: Increase the color contrast of the text. Try using some rounded corners method or another on your right-hand column. Soften the gray (make it blend in more with the adjacent black column) area and see if it looks better that way. There's a few minor typos that you'd want to fix ;) Again, you're getting a lot better at designing. Keep improving! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586773442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 It's not bad, but some things could use a bit of improvement:Increase the color contrast of the text. Try using some rounded corners method or another on your right-hand column. Soften the gray (make it blend in more with the adjacent black column) area and see if it looks better that way. There's a few minor typos that you'd want to fix ;) Again, you're getting a lot better at designing. Keep improving! 586773442[/snapback] Wow, thanks so much! I have been looking for pretty much everything you just linked to. I'll definitely look at those. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586774629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 Is there a tutorial to CSS somewhere? I can look at CSS and work with it, but creating it doesn't make much sense to me. And I know it is more convenient Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586774763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 roosevelt Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Hey the design is ok... by ok i mean it is not that bad that it isn't accepted. Here are some tips: - Might wanna drop css for now. - Get a good web-designing software (Adobe Photoshop & Dreamweaver 8 are the best pair). - If you need training, buy a book or look for video tutorials in www.vtc.com or www.lynda.com. - Check out the templates in www.templatemonster.com, or other high tech sites and see how their images are built and blended. This will give you some ideas how your work is supposed to be. Like on your design the page banner and such are all plain colors... doesn't have the 3d effect like neowin.net logo does :). - Check your sig and my sig... mine isn't good as others but it does have some effect to make it stand out... :). - And don't let other people get you... people will critisize you, just point out what exactly the errors they see, and ask them how you can make it better. - Keep practicing, because it took me 3 years to master every single thing (including the pen tool) in Photoshop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586774825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 I threw away the old layout. http://r360.co.nr If you can beleive it, the inspiration for this one was all around me. Those are the exact colors of my room. I added in some rounded corners, and cleaned up the code a bit. I'm not completely finished, and since I did this in 10 minutes, all constructive criticism is welcome :) I'm ready for it now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586775386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 roosevelt Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I threw away the old layout.http://r360.co.nr If you can beleive it, the inspiration for this one was all around me. Those are the exact colors of my room. I added in some rounded corners, and cleaned up the code a bit. I'm not completely finished, and since I did this in 10 minutes, all constructive criticism is welcome :) I'm ready for it now. 586775386[/snapback] That's the spirit... keep going you can do better... way better :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586775415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 turkishdelight Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 threw away the old layout.http://r360.co.nr If you can beleive it, the inspiration for this one was all around me. Those are the exact colors of my room. I added in some rounded corners, and cleaned up the code a bit. I'm not completely finished, and since I did this in 10 minutes, all constructive criticism is welcome :) I'm ready for it now. Wow. That's a huge improvement! Two suggestions. First, throw away the top border on your main div, and perhaps change the link color on the sidebar to white. I've found that white on orange shows up better and stings the eyes less than blue on orange. What you could start doing now is to validate your code. It would make it much leaner and easier to read. I'm guessing that you used a Microsoft product sometime while designing that? There are some extra Microsoft-specific tags littered around the source code that you'd want to remove. There are several tutorial sites for CSS you might want to look at. I'm basically self-taught, but everyone's different. http://www.w3schools.com/css/ http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Style http://htmldog.com/ Look around, Google for "css tutorial", and have fun. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586775428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Veteran Posted November 6, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2005 Wow. That's a huge improvement!Two suggestions. First, throw away the top border on your main div, and perhaps change the link color on the sidebar to white. I've found that white on orange shows up better and stings the eyes less than blue on orange. What you could start doing now is to validate your code. It would make it much leaner and easier to read. I'm guessing that you used a Microsoft product sometime while designing that? There are some extra Microsoft-specific tags littered around the source code that you'd want to remove. There are several tutorial sites for CSS you might want to look at. I'm basically self-taught, but everyone's different. http://www.w3schools.com/css/ http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Style http://htmldog.com/ Look around, Google for "css tutorial", and have fun. 586775428[/snapback] Your first 2 suggestions were actually what I was going to do next! I couldn't find the border for the main div, since it sounds like you've been picking through the code, could you point it out to me? And I'm also working on the hyperlink color change. Validating the code I have tried, but the instructions the validator gives me doesn't make sense to me. As for the CSS stuff, I'll definitely look through those. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/393908-i-did-it-by-myself/#findComment-586775456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I've actually done some amount of web work by hand! Go to http://205.251.3.104/blogger, and see the amazing work!
I need a bit of help though. The header on my blog should be more like the one on http://205.251.3.104/preview/index.htm
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