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Hi,

I'm new to Autopatcher, I think it's amazing and I have great praise for the development team. You guys rank up there with Hiren and Irfan in my books!

I've reviewed the forums and I already know there is a rarely seen "Autopatcher Updater", but what would happen if I run the November Autopatcher overtop of a WinXP install that previously had the September Autopatcher run on it? Will it just add the new updates, or will damage be done?

Sorry for the lamer ques, thanks for your kind response.

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Thanks. ;)

1st - You should remove the old instalation folder, to avoid errors...

2nd - AutoPatcher will find wich updates are already installed, and mark them as installed (they will appear in blue, and not selected).

3rd - And no, it won't damage anyone/anything. :D

Maybe a bit late, but the Dutch October-version of Autopatcher XP seems to be the cause of a problem with MSN 7.5 on Dutch WinXP Pro NL systems (bug report?). :(

Problem wrap up. After installing one couldn't install the Dutch MSN upgrade 7.5 The system replied "you have'nt got the proper reights, ask system administrator". :angry:

The weird thing is the guys were logged in as administrator! All kind of suggested solutions were tried, but practical none did work. Strange enough if one tried to install the English version of MSN 7.5 (all builds) there was not a problem with 'installation rights' at all. :o

Can I ask DaFlapDrol to look into this matter please? Just because I suppose he understands the Dutch language to understand what there is said in the long running topic on the Dutch Tweakers.net-forum regarding this problem. ;) The url is:

http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_m...539189#24539189

Actually hope that he can confirm what we aspect, so there be a solution before installing the (to be released) Dutch November version Autopatcher Xp. :rolleyes:

Maybe a bit late, but the Dutch October-version of Autopatcher XP seems to be the cause of a problem with MSN 7.5 on Dutch WinXP Pro NL systems (bug report?).  :( 

Problem wrap up. After installing one couldn't install the Dutch MSN upgrade 7.5 The system replied "you have'nt got the proper reights, ask system administrator".  :angry:

The weird thing is the guys were logged in as administrator! All kind of suggested solutions were tried, but practical none did work. Strange enough if one tried to install the English version of MSN 7.5 (all builds) there was not a problem with 'installation rights' at all.  :o

Can I ask DaFlapDrol to look into this matter please? Just because I suppose he understands the Dutch language to understand what there is said in the long running topic on the Dutch Tweakers.net-forum regarding this problem.  ;)  The url is:

http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_m...539189#24539189

Actually hope that he can confirm what we aspect, so there be a solution before installing the (to be released) Dutch November version Autopatcher Xp.  :rolleyes:

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This is the place for asking questions, etc. Not the Dutch tweakers.net......

Anyway, the main question is "are you using this on a clean installation"?

Sorry for the link to another forum. Its only purpose was: 1) to show more people are experiencing the problem 2) to provide more detailed background informationed if needed. :blush:

Ok?, back to the question. In my case the formally correct answer is "no". It was done on a almost clean installation. Autopatcher was installed 2 or 3 days after an initial WinXP installation. Just stuff like Office, virusscan software, Java (J2SE), Photoshop CS2, etc were installed. No games or what so ever. :happy::

All the programms work fine, even after installing Autopatcher. Only MSN didn't update. Tried it therefor manually. At this point the problem occurred. Only the English version of MSN could be installed. :oo

Sorry for the link to another forum. Its only purpose was: 1) to show more people are experiencing the problem 2) to provide more detailed background informationed if needed.??:blush:h:

Ok?, back to the question. In my case the formally correct answer is "no". It was done on a almost clean installation. Autopatcher was installed 2 or 3 days after an initial WinXP installation. Just stuff like Office, virusscan software, Java (J2SE), Photoshop CS2, etc were installed. No games or what so ever.:happy:appy:

All the programms work fine, even after installing Autopatcher. Only MSN didn't update. Tried it therefor manually. At this point the problem occurred. Only the English version of MSN could be installed:o? :o

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Can you start posting at the topic that was created for the Dutch release? See the topic herehere, would be nice to have all things concerning the Dutch Release together.

A few questiBefore you installed the "new" version of AutoPatcher, did you removed the older version first?t?<What OS do you have (pro/home retail or oem)?)?

I've to ask you these questions. I want to see it, maybe I can simulate it again. When I run AutoPatcher I don't have any problems. But I know what you are talking about, got that message here to "saying that I don't have the rights..."

I've contacted the MSN development team, they are working on some errors. MSN version 7.* for the Dutch was missing a few things for the installation method. Should be solved know.

BTW, you don't need to apologize for the url to the tweakers.net forum. I've posted my comments on the Dutch Topic earlier here on Neowin about that. When you are having troubles with AutoPatcher and post it on a dutch forum, then I don't see it. With the result that I can't support, solve and change things for the next releas;). ;)

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Ok?. I'll switch to the url (the Dutch version related Autopatcher) DaPlapDrol asked for in post no. 7. The answers to his questions one wil find overthere. :yes::

Although explaning in Dutch is much easier, I'll keep on using English so a greater deal of people can read it. :))

Just a marginal comment to the "BTW" remark. I/we just recently came to the 'conclusion' that the use of AutoPatcher might cause the problem we were experiencing with MSN. As of that moment on I took the iniative to post it on Neowin. Otherwise it would be just luck if you heared of our situation. Enough said about it, I think. Right?

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Excuses, t? snel op de verkeerde knoppen gedrukt.

Reactie post 9 als niet geschreven beschouwen svp.

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Although explaning in Dutch is much easier, I'll keep on using English so a greater deal of people can read it

Now it's time for you to say it in English again, for all the others here!

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