Kameo: SDTV vs HDTV comparison picture

By OrangeSoul
in Xbox

 Share

Recommended Posts

Grand Master

MadFerIt

Posted
Posted

Well I think if you have a high-end CRT that happens to have no HDTV you shouldn't be so bloody worried.. The games WILL LOOK GREAT!

HDTV is better, there's no doubt about that. However it's foolish to think that Next-Gen games will look current-gen on a non-hdtv set. That's bull****.

And not trying to insult the guy who took those pics but.. Something about those 720p screens does not look right. Maybe it's just the fault of the camera I don't know.

Enthusiast

DeadOnArrival

Posted
Posted
Are you sure that's PGR3? It just doesn't look right...

Hmm, looks like the difference is significant like they say. But no more than the difference between standard and HD has always been...

586822692[/snapback]

yes its real, sadly.... :x

40691320051117_005508_4_big.jpg

notice the xbox 360 advertisement in the back of the image... :laugh:

Grand Master

Kerm

Posted
Posted
Here is PGR on SDTV.  Quality to me is really tone down.

[...]

[...]

[...]

For more pics, go here:

Pics

586822616[/snapback]

If i bought the Xbox360 and PGR3 and it looked like that i would take it straight back to be honest.

I'm hoping it wont.

Rising Star

noping

Posted
Posted

This is really stupid.

The only different between HTDV and SDTV is resolution. 480i vs 1080i for example.

So why on earth would there be visual quality difference? Sure the picture would have more detail in HDTV, better resolution, but the QUALITY (texture, effects, blur, animation, etc) should be the exact same.

If the graphics look crap in SD, that means they're crap in HD aswell, maybe HD is hidding it. Similerly, if the graphics are good in HD, then they should be GOOD in SD as well.

For Example running HL2 on highest setting on 800x600 vs 1600x1200, you see more detail on the latter, but the Quality should be the same.

Grand Master

Ji@nBing

Posted
Posted
wow, looks like im not going to buy an xbox 360, i cant afford to shell out 2000 for a hdtv just so i can play games.

586822707[/snapback]

You're an idiot. The PS3 will have this "problem" too. Are you really surprised that it will look better on HDTV? Kind of a no brainer, really. I don't understand why so many people are freaking out.

Grand Master

notuptome2004

Posted
Posted
This is really stupid.

The only different between HTDV and SDTV is resolution. 480i vs 1080i for example.

So why on earth would there be visual quality difference? Sure the picture would have more detail in HDTV, better resolution, but the QUALITY (texture, effects, blur, animation, etc)  should be the exact same.

If the graphics look crap in SD, that means they're crap in HD aswell, maybe HD is hidding it. Similerly, if the graphics are good in HD, then they should be GOOD in SD as well.

For Example running HL2 on highest setting on 800x600 vs 1600x1200, you see more detail on the latter, but the Quality should be the same.

586823767[/snapback]

you are correct for the most part but with HD the texures cna look higehr REZ cause it is running higehr REZ and a few more detials can comeout . while yes the textures can eb the same and otehr effects they will be a loss in image clarity it is kinda like using a Xbox on composite video connection compared to S-video the S-video connects shows mroe detials in texures.

Apprentice

The Great Inevitable

Posted
Posted
You're an idiot. The PS3 will have this "problem" too. Are you really surprised that it will look better on HDTV? Kind of a no brainer, really. I don't understand why so many people are freaking out.

586823764[/snapback]

Exactly, it?s like getting ****ed at your cable company cause your SDTV doesn?t display your TV programs as well as your friends HDTV.

I don?t get why everyone is now noticing their old TV don?t look as good as an HDTV.

Grand Master

dnast

Posted
Posted

Hmmm....something's fishy about the SDTV PGR3 pics. The cars don't even have reflections. :rolleyes:

Looks like I'm going to get a HDTV from Samsung from Rent to Own(lol). But don't HDTV's need an HD source?

586823815[/snapback]

The Xbox 360 will be the HD source.

Grand Master

MadFerIt

Posted
Posted
Looks like I'm going to get a HDTV from Samsung from Rent to Own(lol). But don't HDTV's need an HD source?

586823815[/snapback]

Misconception. The 360 IS an HD source. You're thinking of HD television, which does require either an ATSC tuner (aka hdtv decoding tuner) or an HD box (which includes the decoder). But that's just tv, any other HD devices will work as long as you have the supported cables (xbox360 is so far component for HD modes).

Grand Master

P!P

Posted
Posted

Those PGR screens cannot be right. Looks like it's running on a PS or N64. Anyway, I played COD2 and Kameo on a demo machine today and COD2 looked awesome. Kameo looked okay but I don't know I expected more for that game. Although I never played it, only the beginning scenes.

Veteran

micro

Posted
Posted

dont get ****ed off because M$ slanted the weight over to the HD side, that was their mistake. To be perfectly honest, the xbox 360 isnt that much of a JUMP over the xbox, nothing near calling next gen, and for the RECORD I OWN A XBOX not a ps2.. Im sure ps3 will have the same problem but then again, its not comming out next week is it?

When it all comes down to the wire, my computer will own this 360 3x over, thats where the "Next Gen" is..

ps1 to ps2 = OMG stunning worth every penny....

xbox over ps2 = bragging rights but ps2 had games hands down.

ps2 to ps3 = we dont know yet...

xbox to xbox 360 = 20% improvement = not worth 300.00 and FOR DAMN SURE NOT WORTH A 2000.00 DOLLAR TV INVESTMENT!

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Posts

    • MPC-BE 1.9.0

      By Copernic · Posted

      MPC-BE 1.9.0 by Razvan Serea Media Player Classic - BE is a free and open source audio and video player for Windows. Media Player Classic - BE is based on the original "Media Player Classic" project (Gabest) and "Media Player Classic Home Cinema" project (Casimir666), contains additional features and bug fixes. The BE mod (Black Edition Mod) is a skinned version of Media Player Classic Home Cinema, much better looking than the plain old MPC. MPC-BE 1.9.0 changelog: Splitters Fixed crashes in some situations. AudioSplitter Added support for the RF64 format. Fixed reading of channel layout for some WavPack files. Added support for ID3 tags for Wave64 files. Unknown Wave64 chunks are now ignored. AviSplitter Added support for 'y408' video. Improved support for 'HEVC' video. FLVSplitter Added support for VVC video. MP4Splitter Improved handling of corrupted files. MatroskaSplitter Expanded support for V_UNCOMPRESSED video codecs. Fixed support for frame rotation (ProjectionPoseRoll). Improved support for "V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / HEVC". MpcDvdVideoDecoder Fixed conversion to YUY2. Fixed display of menus for some DVD-Videos. RoQVideoDecoder Output in NV12 and YV12 formats is allowed. Full range is used. MPC Video Decoder RGB32 format will be output as a top-down bitmap by default. Added support for the "IID_MediaSideDataDOVIMetadataV2" interface. Removed support for the deprecated "IID_MediaSideDataDOVIMetadata" interface. Fixed retrieving the name of the video adapter when using NVDEC. Fixed crashes in some situations. MPC Video Converter Added support for AYUV video format. MpcAudioRenderer Improved input format validation. Optimized retrieval of supported formats for exclusive mode. Added the "Keep audio device active when paused" setting. Fixed crashes and freezes in various situations. Subtitles Added the ability to open the properties of an external subtitle renderer in the "Subtitles" settings panel. Fixed external subtitle connections for VSFilter. Fixed a crash when rendering PGS/SUP subtitles when using AVX2. YouTube Improved support for yt-dlp. The built-in YouTube parser is no longer used. Player The HTTP read strategy has been changed. If the playlist contains one entry, more key combinations can be used to control the player (jump through chapters, adjust volume). Improved support for reading ASX playlists. The translation of the MediaInfo report for Chinese, Korean and Japanese has been removed. Added blocking of 32-bit filter "PICVideo Lossless JPEG Decompressor" (pvljpg20.dll), because it crashes. Added blocking of the system filter "AVI Decompressor", which will eliminate the crash of VFW codecs. Fixed a rare crash when using the "/slave" key. Fixed a crash when getting a list of fonts for OSD. Added the ability to load an external audio file using hotkeys. Fixed opening a network path starting with \?\UNC. The "Determine duration when adding" playlist setting now works for YouTube video URLs. The "Online media services" settings panel has been redesigned. Added a "Merge files using FFmpeg" option to the file saving dialog. This option is activated when playing multiple streams obtained using yt-dlp. Added loading of local .dpl playlists ("DAUMPLAYLIST"). Fixed a hang when the user closes the player during the URL opening process. Various interface fixes. Installer Updated MPC Video Renderer 0.10.5. Updated MPC Script Source 0.2.17. Added MPC Image Source 0.3.6. Translations Updated Japanese translation (by tsubasanouta). Updated Chinese (Traditional) and Dutch translation (by beter). Updated Romanian translation (by Andrei Miloiu). Updated Hungarian translation (by mickey). Updated Turkish translation (by cmhrky). Updated German translation (by Klaus1189). Updated Chinese (Simplified) translation (by wushantao). Updated Italian translation (by mapi68). Updated Korean translation (by Hackjjang). Updated Chinese (Traditional) (by udfbe). Updated libraries dav1d 1.5.3-6-g04b69f9; ffmpeg n8.2-dev-1857-g4653e68aab; libpng git-v1.6.55-9-g7d52a8087; Little-CMS git-lcms2.18-26-gf739cda; MediaInfo git-v26.05-38-g702c9b7fd; ZenLib git-v0.4.41-91-g073f297; zlib 1.3.2. Download: MPC-BE 64-bit | Portable MPC-BE 64-bit | ~20.0 MB (Open Source) Download: MPC-BE 32-bit | Portable MPC-BE 32-bit Link: Media Player Classic - BE Home Page Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Apple reportedly looks to blacklisted Chinese memory chips as RAM prices climb

      By Karthik Mudaliar · Posted

      Apple reportedly looks to blacklisted Chinese memory chips as RAM prices climb by Karthik Mudaliar Image via Apple Apple is reportedly trying to get a clearance from the Trump administration to buy memory from ChangXin Memory Technologies (CXMT) to get some relief from soaring DRAM prices. As per a report by the Financial Times, Apple approached the Commerce Department more than a month ago and also spoke to other officials and allies in Washington. For starters, CXMT is a company that's already been placed on the Pentagon's list of Chinese military companies. The Chinese company is the country's top DRAM maker. For Apple, the timing is certainly awkward but not surprising. Tim Cook had recently warned that Apple would have to raise prices because AI companies are buying up large amounts of memory for data centers, and just like that, Apple raised MacBook and iPad prices. Micron also recently revealed that customers have committed billions of dollars to secure memory supply years in advance, which shows us how aggressive securing infrastructure has become. This gives suppliers such as Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron more leverage, while pushing hardware makers to look for alternatives. CXMT is one of those alternatives, but not the simplest one. Apple has spent many years trying to diversify parts of its supply chain away from China, especially for final assembly, while still depending heavily on Chinese manufacturing and suppliers. Even domestic brands from China are moving towards CXMT and YMTC instead of relying on Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix. For Apple, though, it would invite more scrutiny than local Chinese companies. For now, this is more like a lobbying effort rather than a confirmed supply deal. There's no official statement from either of the parties. What is clearer, though, is the pressure behind such a request. AI demand has certainly made hardware a bottleneck, and companies are trying everything they can to bring things back to normal, even if that means making politically sensitive choices. Source: Financial Times
    • You've tried DuckDuckGo and Brave Search, now get serious with SearXNG

      By datacenter · Posted

      I did test it a month or so back, but ... the results I expect to be on the first page are not there.
    • 4TB TEAMGROUP MP44Q, 2TB T-Force G50, and 2TB WD My Passport SSDs drop to great prices

      By ryansurfer98 · Posted

      Neowin is saying these are good prices? Thats crazy. As others have said they are just ######. Time for big tech to bring down the prices for real not this fake crap.
    • Hands on with iFlyTek AINote 2 E-Ink tablet: insanely thin and smart

      By The Werewolf · Posted

      The iFlyTek AINote 2 is among the thinnest E-Ink tablets. It has an EMR stylus, a built-in fingerprint reader, and plenty of built-in AI features. You had me until "and plenty of built-in AI features." That and any company that still does the iProduct naming trope is an immediate pass. It suggests the company isn't very imaginative or creative and is trying to piggyback off another company's success. Extremely lame. Also kind of expensive. Better choices at lower prices out there.

  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Woland13 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Woland13 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      bernmeister earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Week One Done
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Week One Done

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      486
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      220
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      147
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      74
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      70
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!