Playstation 3 Fans Rejoice!

[udontneed2know]

Which claims exactly? Everything I've said is well known.

[ANova]

@udontneed2know

I respect your knowledge of processor architecture, at least of cell. But it seems some of your claims are outrageous. I am saying this because my work is related to a major part of processor design. I will let you guess what I do for now. But what you are saying is impossible to pack in PS3 as shown at E3. Cell may be a bit too powerful to fit PS3 at capabilities you are claiming.

Again I am not challenging cell programming which you said you are doing but a different aspect of the so called cell revolution.

Also lets not forget Windows. Cell can promise you moon but it is not going anywhere unless Windows works on it; at least for next 10 years or so.  That gives a lot of time for intel/AMD to catch up. If at all that is.

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Well, he did mention 256 GFLOPs at 4.2 GHz, Cell in the PS3 is supposed to run around 3.2 GHz. I believe PS3 will seem on par with the X360 at first and then show it's true potential over time, kind of like the PS2 did.

[Starchild]

@udontneed2know

:woot: Your knowledge on Cell technology is impressive, not to mention facinating.

[Finally, someone the quiet all these fanboys :whistle:]

[johndoe53]

Well, he did mention 256 GFLOPs at 4.2 GHz, Cell in the PS3 is supposed to run around 3.2 GHz.  I believe PS3 will seem on par with the X360 at first and then show it's true potential over time, kind of like the PS2 did.

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errr

it only showed its true potential when devs felt like taking full advantage of the system- something that was annoying to do programming wise and time wise.

[jerry]

it seems to me like Sony has been doing some homework around community forums and sending in some "damage control" ppl to put the force back into balance... well more black than light force but is still well balanced...  :blush:  :happy:  :laugh:  :rofl:  :p

aways, wellcome to the playground kids! I'm sure there's enough room for all us here and the main idea is to have fun because everything is about the games!!!  :wub: :yes:

long live to Nintendo!!!  :laugh:  :rofl:  :p  ;)  :whistle:

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No kidding. Until he backs up his statement with links to his papers, I wont buy anything he's selling here. :D

Besides that I find it a 'little' strange that some one with that kind of background spends time on forums ... :whistle:

[udontneed2know]

What you think the world revolves around the internet? I wrote something I thought was necessary here once.

http://ps3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7671

Pretty lengthy read but its good enough if you want to read it for the time being. Most of what I wrote and talked about was back during Cells creation and was for college, future of programming, future of microprocessing papers. Been following Cell since the early days back in 2001 when the project moved out to my area and I had alot of friends go in there and work on it.

And you must think the internet is still way back in 1995 to think people with backgrounds won't go on forums and message boards and BBS's and net groups. Hell even high class game developers will look at these forums alot. When I was with Sonic Team in Japan they'd have full days of simply running across various BBS's to see where the minds of the normal and hardcore gamers were.

And personally I just like going to boards and talking about games and systems. Being a fast reader and typer helps the process along ;)

[Chode]

I believe PS3 will seem on par with the X360 at first and then show it's true potential over time, kind of like the PS2 did.

It's not like you to be rooting for team NVIDIA :shifty:

[/old joke]

Seriously. I have read this thread, every last post and every last piece of fanboyism (you know who you all are!!!) and there is only one thing which is causing me intense mental anguish:

Except that the only performance figures or indication is from Sony themselves and not from ACTUAL hardware tests m8.

Because outwith Sony it doesnt exist yet! I usually take what Sony says with a pinch of salt then actually look for myself then decide when the hardware is available on a retail level.

Your basing your statement on pure conjecture and believing the hype Sony have touted so far. e.g. my things bigger than your thing...so mature of Sony

granted some of the statements ask for flaming but come on lets be mature about this

(and no im not a xbox fanboy i own both current consoles)

Outwith?

OUTWITH?

In the name of Jumping JC Connor! Don't try to use big words to make a post seem intelligent! Once a colloqualism like "m8" has been used, any chance of intelligence has dropped from the post already!

That and it would seem that there is no such word as OUTWITH!

Back up intelligence with grammar and use of proper English. PLEASE!

[iconboy]

It's not like you to be rooting for team NVIDIA :shifty:

[/old joke]

Seriously. I have read this thread, every last post and every last piece of fanboyism (you know who you all are!!!) and there is only one thing which is causing me intense mental anguish:

Outwith?

OUTWITH?

In the name of Jumping JC Connor! Don't try to use big words to make a post seem intelligent! Once a colloqualism like "m8" has been used, any chance of intelligence has dropped from the post already!

That and it would seem that there is no such word as OUTWITH!

Back up intelligence with grammar and use of proper English. PLEASE!

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ur nitpicking about spelling in a pointless thread about a console battle at least 1 and a half years still to come. two words: noone cares.

[Spartan_X]

No kidding. Until he backs up his statement with links to his papers, I wont buy anything he's selling here. :D

Besides that I find it a 'little' strange that some one with that kind of background spends time on forums ...?:whistle::

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well, I also find kind of wierd some one who likes to talk about "games and systems" opening accounts on various forums about the same time and talking about the very same things over and over... :blink:: :huh:: :rolleyes:: :shifty:: :whistle::

PS3 Forums

Neowin

Neowin stats

ohh well, I'm not the right person to bring up this kind of things to the table... at leatest I'm well known for been around this forum since its begining... :blush:: :happy:: ;)) :yes::

and please put away the torches... :laugh:: :rofl:: :pp

[BajiRav]

ur nitpicking about spelling in a pointless thread about a console battle at least 1 and a half years still to come.  two words:  noone cares.

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/OT

iconboy whats going on in your signature ? :laugh: :ninja:

[iconboy]

/OT

iconboy whats going on in your signature ?  :laugh:  :ninja:

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hehehehe, its kind of a mini protest,. you cant open a thread or openly complain about mods and the wrong things you sometimes feel that they do. i personally think they act too rash and too harsh and should start warning people people before they do permanent things,. anyways, even this post will probably be deleted and noone will see it, quite frusterating.

[Starchild]

It's not like you to be rooting for team NVIDIA :shifty:

[/old joke]

Seriously. I have read this thread, every last post and every last piece of fanboyism (you know who you all are!!!) and there is only one thing which is causing me intense mental anguish:

Outwith?

OUTWITH?

In the name of Jumping JC Connor! Don't try to use big words to make a post seem intelligent! Once a colloqualism like "m8" has been used, any chance of intelligence has dropped from the post already!

That and it would seem that there is no such word as OUTWITH!

Back up intelligence with grammar and use of proper English. PLEASE!

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Laugh out loud!

[Chode]

ur nitpicking about spelling in a pointless thread about a console battle at least 1 and a half years still to come.  two words:  noone cares.

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Use of language, my dear boy, not spelling. There is a difference.

[udontneed2know]

ohh well, I'm not the right person to bring up this kind of things to the table... at leatest I'm well known for been around this forum since its begining... :blush: :happy: ;) :yes:

and please put away the torches... :laugh: :rofl: :p

I think your trying just a little too hard my friend. Thats what I love most about the internet though. I remember back in 1998 I was a part of a long standing BBS and was talking about some things and my idiot friend in Japan lived about a block from me. On the forum he kept saying I wasn't who I said so I went over to his house and popped him on the side of the head and logged in on his computer lol. Was pretty funny.

I'm not God and belief isn't what I really care about from people in all seriousness. Do, dont, could care less.

[Hitman2000]

"Use of language, my dear boy, not spelling. There is a difference"

Why, Why?? DO we always have to have a spelling nazi in ever damn thread, get over it, he was probably writing "without" and he accidently wrte "outwith" re-read his sentence "Because outwith Sony it doesnt exist yet" now replace the word "outwith" with "without" and whoope de dooo we have a proper sentence.

Instead of logically rebutting his arguments, you picked up some small mistake and make a big deal out of it.

I know I have also gone offtopic but we always have some guy thinking he inveneted the english language, and thinks that he or she is so smart yet cannot simply re arrange a few letter in their "advanced english" mind to make a proper sentence.

[udontneed2know]

hmmm crap, server error caused a double post. Don't see an option to delete this reply here.

[udontneed2know]

Jesus dude drop it. How is outwith even a big word even if it was an actual term in the dictionary?

Whats your point to all this? Your sounding dumber yourself simply by calling outwith a " big word ". Maybe if your 8 thats a big word but us adults don't really consider outwith or without to be something extraordinary in the english language. How gay of a direction is this for a discussion. Hijack a thread with mindless babble is all your doing.

Anyway, to the guy who said the console war is happening in a year and a half, what are you smoking and can I have a hit? PS3 is launching in 5-6 months in Japan.

[Chode]

"Use of language, my dear boy, not spelling. There is a difference"

Why, Why?? DO we always have to have a spelling nazi in ever damn thread, get over it, he was probably writing? "without" and he accidently wrte "outwith" re-read his sentence "Because outwith Sony it doesnt exist yet" now replace the word "outwith" with "without" and whoope de dooo we have a proper sentence.

Instead of logically rebutting his arguments, you picked up some small mistake and make a big deal out of it.

I know I have also gone offtopic but we always have some guy thinking he inveneted the english language, and thinks that he or she is so smart yet cannot simply re arrange a few letter in their "advanced english" mind to make a proper sentence.

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Read my post again for meaning.

My focus is on attempted intellectualism by using words which sound big but actually have no meaning. Also, note that I was not focusing on spelling.

Of course, said member may suffer from Dyslexia. In which case, I am sorry.

[icecaveman]

well, I also find kind of wierd some one who likes to talk about "games and systems" opening accounts on various forums about the same time and talking about the very same things over and over...  :blink:  :huh:  :rolleyes:  :shifty:  :whistle:

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Haha makes man think about this :rofl: :

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry586854994

1UP Finds Evidence of Sony Anti-360 Propaganda

back to topic yeah I believe PS3 might be released at $400 or even less but you have to remember that's probably without the HDD and all the accessories like a head-set... I believe Microsoft will lower the x360 price before Sony launches PS3 in America :sleep:

[glitch409]

once again friend, i have to say be it spelling or "use of language" -i must reiterate my previous post...  noone cares.

Oh btw, i consider reiterate as more of a "big" word than outwith.

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Oh come on. Cut the man a break, he made one of the best posts in this thread. :laugh:

[iconboy]

Use of language, my dear boy, not spelling. There is a difference.

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once again friend, i have to say be it spelling or "use of language" -i must reiterate my previous post... noone cares.

Oh btw, i consider reiterate as more of a "big" word than outwith.

[NeoKing77]

That and it would seem that there is no such word as OUTWITH!

Back up intelligence with grammar and use of proper English. PLEASE!

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outwith

out?with [owt w?th]

prep

Scotland outside: outside or beyond

working outwith normal hours

Microsoft? Encarta? 2006. ? 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Mando wasn't trying to sound intelligent, he was just being himself - Scottish, m8!

Edited November 27, 2005 by NeoKing77

[jerry]

What you think the world revolves around the internet?  I wrote something I thought was necessary here once.

http://ps3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7671

Pretty lengthy read but its good enough if you want to read it for the time being.  Most of what I wrote and talked about was back during Cells creation and was for college, future of programming, future of microprocessing papers.  Been following Cell since the early days back in 2001 when the project moved out to my area and I had alot of friends go in there and work on it.

And you must think the internet is still way back in 1995 to think people with backgrounds won't go on forums and message boards and BBS's and net groups.  Hell even high class game developers will look at these forums alot.  When I was with Sonic Team in Japan they'd have full days of simply running across various BBS's to see where the minds of the normal and hardcore gamers were.

And personally I just like going to boards and talking about games and systems.  Being a fast reader and typer helps the process along ;)

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A forum post ! = paper. You are basically justifying your posts (linking to hardcore PS3 forums) and not helping your case.

well, I also find kind of wierd some one who likes to talk about "games and systems" opening accounts on various forums about the same time and talking about the very same things over and over...  :blink:  :huh:  :rolleyes:  :shifty:  :whistle:

PS3 Forums

Neowin

Neowin stats

ohh well, I'm not the right person to bring up this kind of things to the table... at leatest I'm well known for been around this forum since its begining...  :blush:  :happy:  ;)  :yes:

and please put away the torches...  :laugh:  :rofl:  :p

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:shifty: :shifty: :shifty:

[firen]

it seems to me like Sony has been doing some homework around community forums and sending in some "damage control" ppl to put the force back into balance... well more black than light force but is still well balanced...  :blush:  :happy:  :laugh:  :rofl:  :p

aways, wellcome to the playground kids! I'm sure there's enough room for all us here and the main idea is to have fun because everything is about the games!!!  :wub: :yes:

long live to Nintendo!!!  :laugh:  :rofl:  :p  ;)  :whistle:

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well, I also find kind of wierd some one who likes to talk about "games and systems" opening accounts on various forums about the same time and talking about the very same things over and over...

Are you afraid that he knows what he is talking about? He has long, lengthy and intelligent posts.

I don't understand this, he seems to know all these things about the cell processor and yet he is ridiculed by xbox fanboys like you. Okay so i wont generalize, mostly you and jerry. My point is, this guy is just spreading some valuable information and clearing up some misconceptions that people may have about the CELL processor. Let him register on 10 forums and post information, what's the big deal. He is probably the first person on this Console forum who really knows what he is talking about and because he knows what he is talking about he must be sent by Sony right :rolleyes:

Haha makes man think about this  :rofl: :

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry586854994

1UP Finds Evidence of Sony Anti-360 Propaganda

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Ridiculous.

[Bhav]

Are you afraid that he knows what he is talking about? He has long, lengthy and intelligent posts.

I don't understand this, he seems to know all these things about the cell processor and yet he is ridiculed by xbox fanboys like you. Okay so i wont generalize, mostly you and jerry. My point is, this guy is just spreading some valuable information and clearing up some misconceptions that people may have about the CELL processor. Let him register on 10 forums and post information, what's the big deal. He is probably the first person on this Console forum who really knows what he is talking about and because he knows what he is talking about he must be sent by Sony righ:rolleyes:s:

Ridiculous.

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exactly...instead of responding to what he's actually said, they're stooping to an all new fanboy low by moaning about him signing up to forums!

i think they just feel insecure cos they dont understand him:happy:y: