Top Ten Reasons To Wait For PS3

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sean l

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( Not because of this list ) But i'm definatly getting the Playstation 3 (Y) It overall appeals more to me than the 360

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This is one of very few reasons to actually pick a PS3 over a 360. I have a 360, and plan on buying a PS3. Not saying the 360 is better than PS3, but there is not reason to pick one over the other. Why not buy both? Too poor? Well, if you can afford one, you can afford the other- not to mention the PS3 is a while away, so you will have time to save up.

Ooo, I can REALLY connect seven boomerangs? Well, no one will want to play with them, so I guess that really doesnt matter. From what I can gather, Sony has not added anything to the controller, just torn apart the design. Something tells me they saw Microsoft do it, so they had to.

One of the highlights of the PS2 was they did not experiment with a new controller, which was a very good move. When I saw the orignal Xbox controller, I was a little scared. Then I used it. Then I threw it out. The anchor was one of the worst console fumbles in history, next to Sega-CD. Sould have stuck with the same controller, IMO.

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AlphaPrime

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How am I "pretending" to be neutral?  I really don't give a damn about either system.  What I can't stand is when people start posting lies and bend and twist the truth (ex. posts like this: PS3 $500, PS3 fans rejoice..when the article doesn't even state it will be $500).  I have noticed stuff like this constantly being posted and it is more of the Xbox fans then anybody doing it.  Then when someone posts any PS3 article that puts the PS3 in a postive light like what I did with in this post, they jumped on.  And as a result it is kind of making me sick being an Xbox owner.

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Agreed.

Too bad no one read my post on page 7. Rotparoge you were right.

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imtoomuch

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I seriously do not understand why mods don't immediately close such flame-bait threads. It's ridiculous. Almost all of you are talking out of your ass. I mean most of you have never played an XBox 360, let alone own one, and I know none of you have played a PS3 so you're just spitting bull****. It's stupid. Again, it's not aimed at all of the posters on this thread.

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Lexcyn

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I will be getting a PS3 because I feel it will be better than the XBOX 360. Why? Well, I like gadgets. All of the expansion abilities of the PS3 (PSP connections, etc - since I have a PSP) are what really sway me over. Nothing will change my mind about it, either.

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notuptome2004

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Xbox 360

3x 3.2ghz PPC based Cores each at 3.2ghz

512megs Shared Video/ system ram

10MB of EDRAM for Cach liek buffer purposes not 10MBs of Video ram all 512 system ram can be used for graphics 10MBs is liek i siad for purposes of possably only buffer type ram.

ATI GPU is based on WGF 2.0 Specs known now as Directx 10 + features unifiead shader pipeline

Playstation 3

1x 3.2ghz Cell 7x SPEs mainly for temp storing of instructions for possable faster transaction) <<< my take on that not 7x Real CPUs since ther like the Pentium 4s HT witch just duplicates some of the Data registerys in the CPU to excute more then 1 thread but does not consist of everythign that makes it procceser but just exstra storage.

PS3 RXS GPU Based on current Directx 9C technolagy and GeForce 6 series Possably 7 series GeForce nvidia cards so non unifiead shader technolagy witch PC cards dont have and wont see for anotehr year to 2 years.

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Xbox  360

3x 3.2ghz PPC based Cores each at 3.2ghz

512megs  Shared  Video/ system ram

10MB of EDRAM for Cach liek buffer purposes  not  10MBs  of Video ram  all 512 system ram can be used for graphics  10MBs  is liek i siad for purposes  of possably only buffer type ram.

ATI GPU is based on WGF 2.0 Specs known now as  Directx 10 + features  unifiead  shader pipeline

Playstation 3

1x 3.2ghz  Cell  7x SPEs  mainly for  temp storing of instructions for  possable faster  transaction) <<< my take  on that not 7x Real CPUs since ther like the  Pentium 4s  HT witch just duplicates  some of the  Data registerys  in the CPU to excute  more then 1  thread  but does  not consist  of everythign that makes it  procceser  but just exstra storage.

PS3 RXS  GPU Based  on current  Directx 9C technolagy and  GeForce 6 series  Possably 7 series  GeForce  nvidia cards so non unifiead shader technolagy witch PC cards dont have and wont see for anotehr year to 2 years.

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Thanks for posting unrealiable specs. No really thanks.

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Brandon Live Veteran

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umm you know PS3 CPU is more power full then 360. When measuring in flops about 2x more power full.

BS. The PS3 CPU is far from more powerful. It's 1/3rd the CPU, plus the SPEs. The SPEs are virtually useless for games. If you want to believe Sony's marketing hype then go ahead. The games will tell the true story.

but it is true the PS3 CPU is  harder to code for the then 360, so PS3 wont be taken full advantage of right away. But I think in the future it will be taken advantage of, So the PS3 is by far more next-gen. Ya it can't be taken advantage of now but will be taken advantage of later witch is why its' next-gen.

Again, you're living in a fantasy world if you believe that's true. The PS3 can't win on numbers, to they make up fake ones. When the first games come out and they look like crap at low resolutoins, you'll say "It's just the first gen! It'll get better!" like they did with the Sega Saturn. "It'll all be okay when they learn to program for it!" Right. No programmer is going to be able to make up for poor architecture.

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Brandon Live Veteran

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Omg i have seen anyone so hypcritical in my life.  You stat that you want the PS3 "fanboys" to stop using hardware as a reason, is that not excalty what you are doing to defend your beloved Xbox 360. Agian the PS3 has the upper hand in Performance, the XB30 has no where the capibility to handle decoding 12 HD signals at the same time, the PS3 does.  The xb360 can barely handle 2 or 3.  Hmm that sounds like a a lot more performance in the PS3 to me.

Good job pulling numbers out of the air.

Now tell me... how many games require decoding 12 HD MPEG4 signals at the same time?

You do understand that decoding compressed video and playing games are completely different things... right? For example, just look at the Pentium 4's NetBurst architecture. It's really good at decoding/encoding video streams. But it gets its ass handed to it in games.

The PS3 is a console designed for gaming.  They did it brillintly on the PS2 and it will be shown in the PS3 agian.  The xbox was just using off the shelf processors and was merely nothing more then a PC in a tiny box as opposed to a console.

Umm... which system had better looking and performing games? Oh yeah, the Xbox.

Oh, and how exactly is the PS3 designed for games? Let's break down the two systems:

Xbox 360: A CPU designed specifically for games (three VX-128 cores for vector work, a dot product instruction). A GPU designed over 4 years specifically for the 360, designed to overcome the limitations of current generation architecture (including EDRAM, direct access to the CPU cache, MEMEXPORT, etc).

PS3: A CPU not designed for games. A GPU from PCs that was purchased at the last minute when Sony had no one else to turn to.

I'd also like to point out that there is a huge, massive difference in the way PC's and consoles are designed.

And you do realize the irony that the PS3 is more like a PC than the 360... right?

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HawkMan

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BTW, to anyone sayign the Sony Rootkit has nothign to do with their games section, only Music.

Need I remind you the PS3 uses BluRay ? wich btw uses the BD+ component of the HD Movie copu protection system, this copy protection systsem could probably also be used for games.

so what does this mean ?

a Faulty game disk or someone on the internet creatign a fake key thet's similar to your PS3's internal key will make your entire PS3 useless. scrap metal, untill you call sony and get a new firmware or something. wich you probably won't get as they'll just claim you tried to use copied media :)

sounds tempting huh ? ;)

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jerry

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And I'm a Nintendo fanboy, I'd prefer both M$ and Sony both burn in hell, but I must agree with this article.

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So much for competition. :rolleyes: Most definitely I'll be buying Revolution but unlike you I dont hope that either Microsoft or Sony burn down.

The article is about the PS3....  :huh:

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Is it? Then why does it need to diss the 360. :huh:

Well it seems to have gotten a rise out of the Xbox360 people for some reason so it apparently did its job.

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And you being the messenger of this flame bait material are successful ? Is that what you are implying? That this article's flame bait motives were successful and you had the honour of posting it here. :rolleyes:

Great hardware tools != great games and great hardware tools != more games produced for the system

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Correct for the first part and wrong on the second

If hardware tools are great, it will be easier to port/code for the platform. However they may not be great games.

PS3 has online play like the PS2, people will deal with it like the have with the PS2.

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I'm not sure they confirmed 100% its going be like PS2 but if it is then it will be a failure again. There is something called 'learning from mistakes'.

If the system couldn't do 1080p they wouldn't say it could.

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1080p remains a fancy buzzword until they actually make it happen. For all PS3 could upscale 720p games to 1080p which will not be real 1080p. (We already know the pixel processing requirements for 1080p)

Jesus christ.

The "10 reasons to buy an XBOX 360" article was written by XBOX fanboys.

The "10 Reasons  the Revolution is better than the XBOX 360" article was written by Nintendo fanboys

This article was written by Sony fanboys.

There's so much one-sided misinformation in this thread it's redunkulous. People, read news articles giving facts about things and form your own opinion accordingly. Trying to get other people to see things your way about a decision that affects you in no way directly is useless and annoying.

I'm not sure what's worse: people who write these obviously biased articles and threads or the people who take them seriously.

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Look Ridley Norfair, normal people also realise that this is pure flame bait material. :rolleyes:

Yeah so I clear up lies and misconceptions about the PS3 and now I am a fanboy.  You sure got me there.  I guess if someone doesn't have anything negative to say about Sony then they must be a fanboy then.  I see how it is.

I also must really hate the Xbox so much to have purchased one.  I said in a thread before I like my Xbox, but I am not going to be blinded\brainwashed and declare my undying devotion to Microsoft.  Some of you and your attachment to them is rediculous.  And the fact that you need to defend the Xbox360 by spewing out misinformation and false facts about the PS3 is pretty damn sad.

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The age-old-excuse of first slamming a particular platform and then claiming to own/support it. :pinch:

How am I "pretending" to be neutral?  I really don't give a damn about either system.  What I can't stand is when people start posting lies and bend and twist the truth (ex. posts like this: PS3 $500, PS3 fans rejoice..when the article doesn't even state it will be $500).  I have noticed stuff like this constantly being posted and it is more of the Xbox fans then anybody doing it.  Then when someone posts any PS3 article that puts the PS3 in a postive light like what I did with in this post, they jumped on.  And as a result it is kind of making me sick being an Xbox owner.

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So to balance out that lies, you posted this. Wow, now we know where you are coming from. :rolleyes:

Oh and by the way, reported to mods as it has already gotten way out of control already.

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kaffra

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Need I remind you the PS3 uses BluRay ? wich btw uses the BD+ component of the HD Movie copu protection system, this copy protection systsem could probably also be used for games.

how is the xbox360s copy protection? With live and their silent updates they could lock you out too.

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Kussie

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Good job pulling numbers out of the air.

Now tell me... how many games require decoding 12 HD MPEG4 signals at the same time? 

Umm... which system had better looking and performing games?  Oh yeah, the Xbox.

Oh, and how exactly is the PS3 designed for games?  Let's break down the two systems:

Xbox 360:  A CPU designed specifically for games (three VX-128 cores for vector work, a dot product instruction).  A GPU designed over 4 years specifically for the 360, designed to overcome the limitations of current generation architecture (including EDRAM, direct access to the CPU cache, MEMEXPORT, etc).

PS3:  A CPU not designed for games.  A GPU from PCs that was purchased at the last minute when Sony had no one else to turn to.

And you do realize the irony that the PS3 is more like a PC than the 360... right?

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Hmmm good job at taking things out of context and not even reading my post(s).

Pulling number's out the air? Hmmm coming straight from the sony E3 press conference.

I never said the PS3 was designed gaming, i was talking about the PS2 in comparsion to the xbox. Not once did i state the PS3 was built for gaming.

And not all xbox games look as good as the PS2 counter parts. For example, on my 1500cm plasma tv, Burnout revenge looks quite bad, and the PS2 version of the game looks so much better.

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ienhz

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So much for competition. :rolleyes: Most definitely I'll be buying Revolution but unlike you I dont hope that either Microsoft or Sony burn down.

Is it? Then why does it need to diss the 360. :huh:

And you being the messenger of this flame bait material are successful ? Is that what you are implying? That this article's flame bait motives were successful and you had the honour of posting it here. :rolleyes:

Correct for the first part and wrong on the second

If hardware tools are great, it will be easier to port/code for the platform. However they may not be great games.

I'm not sure they confirmed 100% its going be like PS2 but if it is then it will be a failure again. There is something called 'learning from mistakes'.

1080p remains a fancy buzzword until they actually make it happen. For all PS3 could upscale 720p games to 1080p which will not be real 1080p. (We already know the pixel processing requirements for 1080p)

Look Ridley Norfair, normal people also realise that this is pure flame bait material. :rolleyes:

The age-old-excuse of first slamming a particular platform and then claiming to own/support it. :pinch:

So to balance out that lies, you posted this. Wow, now we know where you are coming from. :rolleyes:

Oh and by the way, reported to mods as it has already gotten way out of control already.

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The length some people will go to defend their favourite system... If we could only harvest the time and energy some people spend on their replies; the world would be a better place.

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jerry

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The length some people will go to defend their favourite system... If we could only harvest the time and energy some people spend on their replies; the world would be a better place.

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If you bothered to read my post, you would know what system I was getting. :rolleyes:

I just hate trolls/fanboys.

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ahhell

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I'm surprised that this topic is still open. It's just a total haven for the fanboys.

I'll buy what ever the **** I want.

As far as I'm concerned, the more of these prepubescent trolls that buy PS3s the less of them will be on X360.

If the PS3 turns out to be good, I'll buy that too. Until then Sony is just bull****ting about everything.

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SnowRanger13

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Pretending to be neutral doesn't work my friend. I like Microsoft products but devotion ? even when I don't intend to buy XBOX360 anytime soon ?  :rolleyes:

I am not defending XBOX360. I am sick of people defending Sony's lies & bull****. I don't think that company is acting fairly with consumers any more. Microsoft (& nintendo for that matter) never made ludicrous claims about their consoles. Sony has used smokes & mirrors at every product launch. Remember their screwed up mp3 players, recent rootkit fiasco ?

Cell SPEs are not CPU "cores". Cell has only 1 core. in fact Cell's CPU & XBOX's core are very similar, both derived from PPC (accordning to my understanding of ars's articles)

leave the RAM part, Xenos (xbox360 gpu) has 48 shaders with Unified Shader Architecture. Which gives it an edge over PS3's GPU.

If PS3 can indeed deliver on sony's claims, well & good.

But dual 1080p & 7 controllers (not practical ?) just sound stupid. There is no way PS3-cell can render 2 screens at 1920 x 1080 and still have enough power left to drive the game engine.

And Gigabit ethernet for "Fast" online play...WTF??? last time I checked even my 100 Mbps connection don't reach top throughput.

Just smoke & mirrors...plain lies.

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he Cell architecture debuted in a configuration of 9 independent cores: one PowerPC Processing Element (PPE) and eight Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs).  The PPE and SPEs are obviously different, but all eight SPEs are identical to one another.
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SPE's are in fact cores, read the article on anandtech it's got some good info.

Any connection never reaches full throughput. Dose USB ever get near 480MBPS no, dose Wifi-G really reach 54MBPS no. Gigabit will be really use full for big LAN games, but besides that it won't do much.

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