Vista Visual Styles Pack 3.0

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When I read the title I couldn't believe my eyes, "the first 5270 Vista Glass skin", seems my friend you just don't remember KoL and me...

Not mentioning there is a lot of mistakes in yours. And as always your installer screwed my config.

lol indeed.

first of all - its even said in theme copyright that its made by kol and modded by winney x

so i dunno how can it be first :p

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When I read the title I couldn't believe my eyes, "the first 5270 Vista Glass skin", seems my friend you just don't remember KoL and me...

Not mentioning there is a lot of mistakes in yours. And as always your installer screwed my config.

Not to mention that KoL allow me to your his VistaXP 3.1 as mainbase before you (At that time you made your skin when KoL's wasn't banned by MS) and release it in Vista Transformation Pack before you. KoL didn't make any release for 5270 but 5231. About installer, it just do extracting files to Windows\Resources\Themes and run wba file to install skin in WindowBlinds so I have no idea how could it screw your config.

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jemaho

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I won't play your little jealousy game man, just now quit to annoy me on MSN because of your jealousy towards the succes of Vista 1.3, KoL and I know what we are talking aboutl, and it's not of your concern.

Damn, if Vista wouldn't exist, I bet you would kill yourself.

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savourymonkey

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For people who hate the installer, renaming it .zip as opposed to .exe should do the trick. I can't talk much about originality, but I know that Jemaho's skin has been very popular and is indeed, in my opinion, now the most complete vista style available, quite different from KoL's in it's latest 1.3 incarnation. And KoL's skin was really a fantastically complete work, extremely beautiful, and before MS forced its removal, the closest a user could get to Vista.

I've just tried this skin, and I'm at something of a loss to see what has actually been changed here. All I notice are subtely different capton buttons, and a revised start menu. Really, I would not imagine, more than a couple of hours work. That's not really a criticism, because it's not an unattractive theme, but I feel to come here and act as though something original or unique has been done or done 'first' is kind of laughable. I'm not sure it really deserves the fanfare.

*Jemaho, Vista 1.3 is really fantastic, and probably, in light of 5270, has become the closest to Vista a user could get without the OS itself. Congratulations and thanks for all your hard work.

Grand Master

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The reason why I post this here because Jameho's skin is really incomplete. The closest 5270 (comments from his thread)? Let me put up constructive comments here.

ListviewHeader needs to be cleaned up (make it smooth)

ToolBarBackground and buttons doesn't match each other well

Border line is too dark which make eyes uncomfortable

CaptionButton doesn't have transparency at all. What's wrong with it? 5270 has.

Bottom-right resizing glyph is outdated. Grab Vista ones

Background in userpane can transparent without black background

Hilight color looks really terrible. Find some nice blue color or make it like Vista ones

Menu doesn't have skinning, add it.

Close button in Run... doesn't have glow effects

When you open notepad, you'll see double black line border which is so painful to see

There's no hilight color in top menu (file, edit, etc.) at all when hover or clicked

TaskBandButton swapping picture between normal and hover looks bad. Remake it.

Some stuffs doesn't use 5270 resources (ComboButton, StartButton, etc.)

KoL's credit for giving you wba file to use as mainbase is not mentioned in work. You can't make this without his skin as base so you should give him credit in work for themer's respect.

Hope this helps you understand. Both of I and Jameho use KoL's work as mainbase to work on our own skin on our own way so there's no way that skin will be similar except same portion. I chose to use IE7's tabitem, my own remaked taskbandbutton looks different, no skinned progress dialog, etc. So much different which can't understand why you guys can't find it.

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The reason why I post this here because Jameho's skin is really incomplete. The closest 5270 (comments from his thread)? Let me put up constructive comments here.

ListviewHeader needs to be cleaned up (make it smooth)

ToolBarBackground and buttons doesn't match each other well

Border line is too dark which make eyes uncomfortable

CaptionButton doesn't have transparency at all. What's wrong with it? 5270 has.

Bottom-right resizing glyph is outdated. Grab Vista ones

Background in userpane can transparent without black background

Hilight color looks really terrible. Find some nice blue color or make it like Vista ones

Menu doesn't have skinning, add it.

Close button in Run... doesn't have glow effects

When you open notepad, you'll see double black line border which is so painful to see

There's no hilight color in top menu (file, edit, etc.) at all when hover or clicked

TaskBandButton swapping picture between normal and hover looks bad. Remake it.

Some stuffs doesn't use 5270 resources (ComboButton, StartButton, etc.)

KoL's credit for giving you wba file to use as mainbase is not mentioned in work. You can't make this without his skin as base so you should give him credit in work for themer's respect.

Hope this helps you understand. Both of I and Jameho use KoL's work as mainbase to work on our own skin on our own way so there's no way that skin will be similar except same portion. I chose to use IE7's tabitem, my own remaked taskbandbutton looks different, no skinned progress dialog, etc. So much different which can't understand why you guys can't find it.

Didn't you see the 1.3 update? More than half what you just wrote has been fixed in this release. Also, in Vista, menu isn't skinned, highlight has been fixed since 1.2!, Toolbarbackground and borderline depends on the user's taste, nobody should use 5270 resources, because these are all copyrighted by Microsoft, he already gave 1000s times credit to KoL, you should look at the topic. Also, for the background of the user pane, if you look at pictures of 5270, you'll see that we DO see the black background.

The only criticism made here that's valuable is:

The close button in Run (and I didn't even check since the update)

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I don't have anything against you,I already use your Vista Transformation pack, but this comment was really egocentric and you should take a look at others' work before criticizing it.

Grand Master

Windows X

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Didn't you see the 1.3 update? More than half what you just wrote has been fixed in this release. Also, in Vista, menu isn't skinned, highlight has been fixed since 1.2!, Toolbarbackground and borderline depends on the user's taste, nobody should use 5270 resources, because these are all copyrighted by Microsoft, he already gave 1000s times credit to KoL, you should look at the topic. Also, for the background of the user pane, if you look at pictures of 5270, you'll see that we DO see the black background.

The only criticism made here that's valuable is:

The close button in Run (and I didn't even check since the update)

Notepad

I don't have anything against you,I already use your Vista Transformation pack, but this comment was really egocentric and you should take a look at others' work before criticizing it.

I'm really sorry about my earlier post. I was upsetted by Jameho (in MSN) which make me lost myself. I'm sorry to say this but version I checked is really 1.3 (main skin from Vista_1_3.rar file)

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-Hiroshi-

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I'm really sorry about my earlier post. I was upsetted by Jameho (in MSN) which make me lost myself. I'm sorry to say this but version I checked is really 1.3 (main skin from Vista_1_3.rar file)

Too be honest, go back and take a look at your themes, For to take a step ahead of these people with your ego just plays into your crap themes. The matter of the fact is, KoL and Jemaho's themes are more complete and less buggy then anything you've put out to date. You've jumped onto the Vista/Longhorn themeing bandwagon and expected to be the best and it just simply isnt. Perhaps more effort put into the themes could produce better results.

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jemaho

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Windows X, now I think you went too far there, your list of bugs is crap, you'll see my point later, and if it is accurate for you you had to put it in the thread going on Vista 1.3, not in yours, :no:

Now, I perfectly know that my skin will never be a 100% correct and that with the dissapearance of some bugs, new ones will appear, that's why Vista is already at 1.3, I read the thread where my skin is posted and with the update I try to take care of ppl's demand. Don't come here say we never reports bug on yours, you won't give a damn **** about them and we all know that, in your mind when your skin is finished it's perfect in your eyes and has to be like that to other's eyes too.

All in all, I think it's sad to see someone as pathetic as you are because 90% of the bugs you posted here are inaccurate compared to the real Vista, specially the caption buttons, that one made me laugh a lot, they have just the same transparency as in 5270 but as you never ever used one single build of Vista and are always crying to get the resources (even to me) when a new build comes out, you can't know that.

Now, you want to be the one, then be the one, all I care is to give ppl's something they will like and I think that now 55.000 (and more, and counting) are really doing so.

To end here take a look at this and then go take some skinning lessons, when I need help, I ask it, but not to guys like you, I prefer to ask help from people who really know what they are talking about such as KoL (that you called a liar not further then yesterday) or Mike Bryant.

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I unno, but I know Jemaho fairly close to trust him.

Knowing you from the past WindowsX, you're just hungry for fame. Your attitude is horrible, your "creativity" does not flow, pretty irregular. Overall, you're just annoying.

Just to let you know, the world does not revolve around you.

You've got to realize you DID NOT create the skin from "scratch" (the elements of the design), so dno't talk like you created it.

Your attittude just made the skin far less attractive. I'm going to install it on my "dump" machine.. which I could not careless if it crash or die. I'll get back to you with critism on the skin later.

However, I still appriciate your paticipation in the skinning community and I appriciate your hardwork and countless hours you spent. However, it'll be much better and much appriciated if you drop your alter-ego personality.

Grand Master

Windows X

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i know i was wrong guys. But every man have moment to do mistake from losing theirselves. Imagine someone who did the same work as you pwn you by saying his work is and yours is troll and ask you to quit. How would ya feel? I asked you about where it went wrong in my work because I can't find it myself so I need constructive comments and report to make better ones next time so would ya guys give me a hand since I can't download Vista from my connection (which blocks torrent)?

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