XGL demo

[phate]

will it run on an GeForce 7800 GTX

[Rob2687]

If the Nvidia drivers work on it then it's just a matter of getting Xgl to run properly.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

is that Clearlooks Cairo?, if it is, how does it run? (normally and under xgl)

[Rob2687]

That is the compiz window manager.

If you want to use metacity themes then you'll have to stick with glxcompmgr.

[NC]

I have a VIA S3G Unichrome Adapter will it workon my system...

Moreover I have 256 MB RAM, AMD Athlon 1500+ Proc. will there be any Lag?

I want to try it on debian/Ubuntu

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

That is the compiz window manager.

If you want to use metacity themes then you'll have to stick with glxcompmgr.

I'm talking about the widgets, i know the wm is compiz

[Rob2687]

That is a theme called 'Gray'.

I don't see any difference with Cairo in XGL though.

[Cool4]

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-51.html

http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl

I've found it easiest to go the ubuntu way. Unless you want to spend the rest of your life installing gentoo, moving to modular X then finally trying to install Xgl.

The jaggies aren't too pretty though but that's a minor thing.

Yeah...just like all the demo vids...

Hi, I'm kinda new to Linux... :)

Can I install this on any Linux Distro? Because I was looking for Suse 10.1 Beta4, that suposedly will have XGL and I couldn't find it, seems it wasn't released yet, I thought I was gonna be released yesterday.

Thanks :)

[Rob2687]

Look at the last link in my post.

[Cool4]

It says it will only run on Suse 10.1 Beta 3 or above, but the other links suggest that it runs on linux, that's why I asked in the first place.

Or I can only get xgl and compiz at the same time in Suse?

Thanks :)

[Rob2687]

It should run on any distro. Probably not those RPMs though. You'll have to get the packages for the particular distro or compile it yourself. Which is why I linked to useful pages for 3 different distros.

[PrimoTurbo]

I got it running on Ubuntu with a ATI 9700 Pro :) Runs pretty good even on this aging system, I'm still trying to figure out everything. I'll post a screenshot or two later once I figure it out.

[Corona]

i am an ati user too but i cant run it :( getting GLX texture error :cry:

[PrimoTurbo]

Nevermind about the screenshots couldn?t get my screenshot shortcuts to work, no idea why:(:(

It took me a few minutes to install it and to make it work, I had no issues. Except the first time it started some apps crashed a restart fixed it. I was using Ubuntu Dapper Drake and followed this guide here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253

Make sure you have fglrx setup for your ATI card correctly, I followed this guide here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php...8&highlight=ATI

Here is my basic outline:

Pretty much all eye candy and only the switcher or window picker have any potential use (possibly not because it?s hard to make out windows when they are so small and resized, especially for the same application)

Window wobble rendering was pretty slow on my P4 1.6GHz, 1GB DDR RAM, ATI 9800 Pro 128Mb (it's easy to turn off via gconf-editor under apps/compize/plugins/wobble)

Shift + Backspace closes or crashes XGL, very annoying and I did it at least 3 times in like 30 minutes when typing!

Fun to play around try CTRL + ALT + LEFT MOUSE CLICK ON EMPTY AREA to move the cube anyway you want to.

Couldn't figure out how to use Zoom, windows key and mouse2/3 didn't work.

Anyways I just removed Ubuntu, fun to play with but damn I need a new hard drive soon so I can permantley leave two operating systems. Also Dapper Drake is very fast compared to Breezy, not sure why.

[lostspyder]

ohh thats cool, but why does the video have to be 10 minuts long :/

[Rob2687]

The wobbly plugin is kinda weird right now. For some reason when I play a video in Mplayer the wobbly will run smooth as butter. Without a video playing, the wobbly pauses on some animations sometimes.

[JorisS]

what is the support on older graphic cards, like an ATI radeon 9000?

will it run, or is it like vista (...hmm) and does it need a newer card?

i'd like to try it but i am quite new to linux

[skwid]

The wobbly plugin is kinda weird right now. For some reason when I play a video in Mplayer the wobbly will run smooth as butter. Without a video playing, the wobbly pauses on some animations sometimes.

Go into gconf_editor and go to Apps>Compiz>yada yada and uncheck the detect frame rate and then replace the frame rate below it with 60. It fixed my choppy wobble.

Ubuntu is by far the easiest to get it working on, and if you choose to go that route, use Dapper Flight 4. Works like a charm. For a rock solid distro without hassle, I'd recommend Ubuntu Breezy right now.

what is the support on older graphic cards, like an ATI radeon 9000?

will it run, or is it like vista (...hmm) and does it need a newer card?

i'd like to try it but i am quite new to linux

It works fine on that kind of ATI Card but I'll have to warn you that it's a B!TCH to get ATI drivers loaded on any system. nVidia has by far the best community support for linux. If you want to use linux I always reccomend getting an Nvidia card.

[alsheron]

This is absoluterlky amazing! Bring on this stuff! (Still can't wait for Vista though)

[skwid]

Yeah vista looks cool but Windows will allways be Windows. I'd like to have seend a design change but the start button is back to haunt us.

[markwolfe Veteran]

I don't think that all of this is very appealing to me.

I don't mind a shift to putting some of the X display work onto the video card hardware, but the cheesy 3-D effects are overboard.

Most of this just seems to be there to demonstrate capabilities, and not really what end users want.

But what do I know? I prefer fluxbox over KDE/Gnome. :p (though rezza would say that flux has too much eye-candy :rofl:)

[leovanham]

Love it !

[Rob2687]

Well a lot of people seem to like it. The Ubuntu Dapper development forum has practically been turned into an Xgl forum.

[Malbojia]

It seems all the general public wants is the eye candy to a OS. None the wiser if the linux world would adopt it to get some hold onto the mainstream desktop user. Although for applications purposes xgl can be wonders in program multitasking.

[Simon Veteran]

Everyone keep in mind that this can be turned off. But it makes the desktop more user friendly. More user friendly means more users, more applications, bigger chunk out of MS's wallet, etc. So this is very good.