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that VS is royale vista.

Thanks (Y)

Looks interesting, I'll be interested to see what other concepts they come up with :) and is it me or are the File, Edit, View etc menus moved into the title bar itself (rather then under it)?

:blink: OMG the menu is indeed on the title bar on that mock up

Yeah, having the location bar dropmarker to the left of the RSS and Go buttons wouldn't be a good idea, but it seems awkward, trying to stuff all of these UI elements into the location bar. Up until now, the location bar has been designed and used to display text. I think a good step would be blurring the distinction between solely text and having some sort of media/indicators in there, but we really need to take a step back and ask whether the traditional white bar will really work for this sort of feature implementation.

Then again, I can't think of a great alternative.

Firefox doesn't actually need to be changed in my opinion, as because of the customisation you can do to it, getting what you want isn't hard at all. I have everything I want in one toolbar:

New Tab, Back, Forward, Refresh, Stop, Home, Address Bar, GMail, Spellcheck, Page Info, Up, Autofill, File, Edit, View, Bookmarks, Tools.

GMail along to Autofill are all from Google toolbar, I took out the useful stuff and put it into the top toolbar, which got rid of a toolbar and made more page space.

And something I like about IE7 is the ability to hide the menubar. Even if through an extensoion, can't these things be done?

Use the extension Tiny Menu or Compact Menu.

I think the best is to have the URL/bookmark/Tab/Main bars all customizable, because personally I prefer the tab bar at the very bottom, but I understand the clearness of having it above the URL bar as well, and it'll make most sense to have everything customizable.

The extension Tab Mix Plus can move the Tab bar to the bottom... try it!

4) The Go button becomes a stateful button that is either "Go" or "Stop"

Worst idea ever. Opera does this, and it's extremely annoying. When the browser locks up, you try to press 'Stop'. The browser doesn't catch your click and doesn't respond. So this time, you click stop a few times. What happens then is the browser responds, clicks stop, changes back to refresh, user clicks, the page ends up reloading. When you have separate stop / reload buttons, you don't make this mistake.

Opera doesn't have a go button (well not by default), and it doesn't do that anyway, so I don't know what you're talking about?

About the redesigned GUI, could be interesting..

If youre going for a complete change in the gui i would put some stuff hidden in a region of the screen so if you hover over the area the would appear or by instead pressing a certain key, that way thus maximizing the size of the viewable region for a website, for example i use and extension called Reveal which shows me all the tabs opened with thumbnails and gives me all the options of tabs plus more, and it just appears when i press f2

Pretty nifty try it

I quite like the idea of the new design. According to text it should be better and uses less space. Although none of the screenshot here does 100% repressent what the design should be.

one features i really like would be a IE7 new tab style. Where the new tab is actually next to every last tab.

Also the tab bin icon......... we really need the open last closed tab function ^^

I like the general ethos of reducing uneccessary parts of the browser or just nicer/better integration.

(A) We suggested reducing the amount of real estate dedicated to the

home button, and also tried to draw attention to the "personal"

nature of the personal bookmarks toolbar (PBT). Do we need the home

button shown by default at all? Is it time to get rid of this?

I like my browser to show as much of the web page without scrolling, (damn you people with 10 different tooolbars!). I Think removing the Home icon would be a bad idea. We all have a starting point and it's a button I couldn't do without. The only thing I feel the need to comment on.

More funtionality to personal bookmarks toolbar sounds like a interesting direction, could comment on the other stuff, but all seems like a positive direction for Firefox. Glad they're still working on it.

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