Playstation 3 Online will be have 2 tiers


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Subscription Model, Basic Service will be free,

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Basic Service is in light green, subscription is in dark green

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These are the basic services

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these are the subscription services

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Online gaming price will depend on the game publisher as its not going to be sonys server running the game online, its going to be the developer/publishers

erm.....maybe i missed this but where does it say that it will be free to play online?

It makes no business sense to allow millions of gamers to play online for free at the expense of the publisher :s

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Key word there is starts free of charge. There's no rigid details yet but this could mean the way that Xbox Live started for the 360. Free 2 months of Gold starting out and then back to silver.

This is all speculation. So no one really knows for sure yet if anything is free/pay or not.

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Key word there is starts free of charge. There's no rigid details yet but this could mean the way that Xbox Live started for the 360. Free 2 months of Gold starting out and then back to silver.

This is all speculation. So no one really knows for sure yet if anything is free/pay or not.

It states "basic service starts free of charge" but doesn't really give much info as to what the basic service contains and also if it is the developers/publishers who are going to run the servers i very much doubt that they are going to do it for free, worst case scenario, you will have to purchase multiple subscriptions for different games to play online :s

it seems the only thing i see that sony is doing that Xbox 360 dotn do with retial games or so is booting from HDD or storage of the games the full games. other then that ther services mimic what Xbox live alredy does Tho sony solution is FREE or maby part of it will be FREE

Most games will be free for online play where as MMORPG and stuff like that (where you need monthly subscription on PC for instance) will be charged. I think it's fairly simple. It's the same as online gaming on PC's. If you want to download a movie or song/album you pay for that in a one off payment.

Online gaming price will depend on the game publisher as its not going to be sonys server running the game online, its going to be the developer/publishers

Actually devs will be able to use Sony's platform, but they'll be free to use their own if they wish.

Online gaming will be free (except for MMOs, like joeydoo says) - it'll be things like downloadable games, movies, music etc. that you'll have to pay for. Xbox Live Silver will, and has, been 1-upped. :rolleyes:

Actually devs will be able to use Sony's platform, but they'll be free to use their own if they wish.

Online gaming will be free (except for MMOs, like joeydoo says) - it'll be things like downloadable games, movies, music etc. that you'll have to pay for. Xbox Live Silver will, and has, been 1-upped. :rolleyes:

Again i must be missing something here but have Sony officially announced that online gaming will be free?

I don't think you can compare it to online PC gaming, take Battlefield 2 for example, EA only operates a handful of 64 player servers the rest are setup by other gamers. With the PS3 it is going to be either Sony or the developers/publishers that are going to have to setup these servers and for comparisons sake take Halo 2 for example; 284,600 unique players have played Halo 2 on Live within the last 24hrs and in that time 580,305 matches have been logged, obviously to accommodate these numbers a large number of servers have to be used and they have to be constantly maintained and undoubtedly this is expensive. Now the thing is how can a company offer a similar level of service on the PS3 for free? it makes no business sense....

The difference is; on PS3 you can play games free online, and Live Silver you can't. Actually, I can't really think of any reason to get Silver.

silver lets ya do quite a bit but no online play. silver is FREE so ther is no getting it works right ou of the darn box when ya get a Xbox 360 system. nothing for sony really has been officaly stated jjust Slides or so of ideas and what maby GREE

Again i must be missing something here but have Sony officially announced that online gaming will be free?

I don't think you can compare it to online PC gaming, take Battlefield 2 for example, EA only operates a handful of 64 player servers the rest are setup by other gamers. With the PS3 it is going to be either Sony or the developers/publishers that are going to have to setup these servers and for comparisons sake take Halo 2 for example; 284,600 unique players have played Halo 2 on Live within the last 24hrs and in that time 580,305 matches have been logged, obviously to accommodate these numbers a large number of servers have to be used and they have to be constantly maintained and undoubtedly this is expensive. Now the thing is how can a company offer a similar level of service on the PS3 for free? it makes no business sense....

It may not be in the presentation but Sony execs have been conforming that the basic service will have free online.

They said they will make up the costs with ingame/lobby ads !!!!

I would believe the paid tier to be adless.

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