Creative Zen vision M

[MEMO.INC]

There is an unreleased firmware upgrade that will bring custom fonts, more EQ options and Gapless playback, it was a rumor but I've seen the videeo and it looks very real, I hope they release it soon.

Pics/video and list of updates it will bring @ epizenter.net

[Flare]

Yep the end was all mine, thanks for the praise.

[Brodel]

There is an unreleased firmware upgrade that will bring custom fonts, more EQ options and Gapless playback, it was a rumor but I've seen the videeo and it looks very real, I hope they release it soon.

Pics/video and list of updates it will bring @ epizenter.net

awesome, I was wondering if there was something similar to rockbox but for creative :D

[Smigit]

The playback is only gapless if the original source is Gapless, e.g. the CD.

if u just import mp3 files it wont play gapless, only if the CD is ripped directly to the MP3 player, then the playback will be gapless, as intended.

What do you mean ripped directly to the mp3 player? There should be no difference if you do it to the computer than transfer the files later or do it to the player. The ripping program will still create multiple files that need to be storred somewhere. The only difference will be the location the files get saved to, the files themselves dont differ. In any event you will still get "gapless" across different cd's, just it wont be as smooth a transition than 2 files that were made to flow into eachother and if the recording originally had a slight pause you will still get that. What you wont get is any gap between the files themselves (loading ect).

The files need to be in a format that supports gapless playback, something like .ogg.

Edit: and MP3 isnt a gapless format. The only way to achieve that would be to rip the cd as one large file. MP3 by its nature will have a playback gap, not long but its there.

[Clear]

An extremely through review, a solid (Y)

Thanks a lot!

[Flare]

Thanks^ read the reasons to buy a creative zen vision m over an ipod video underneath the the review.

[Tamooka]

Getting one of these. Getting rid of my iPod, mostly because of iTunes.

[Flare]

Good choice, could you telll us how your experience has been with it so far?

[AndrewNP]

loving the review, also loving how i can pick it up for 200$ @ bestbuy with discount, 1 big problem..i am getting a macbook and it isn't compatible :(

[PaulCabby]

Ouch.. If only it is purely UMS.

[Flare]

loving the review, also loving how i can pick it up for 200$ @ bestbuy with discount, 1 big problem..i am getting a macbook and it isn't compatible :(

Actually it is. There is a plugin/program that makes it work with macs possibly itunes, I can't remember exactly but you could look around on epizenter.net. Oops here it is: http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/download.html

[Deron Dantzler]

Why should I support a product that sports the Microsoft 'Plays for Sure' nonsense instead of supporting Apple? Microsoft is the organization with a monopoly that doesn't really care about innovative products only making money even if it means taking other organizations ideas and calling them their own. Apple isn't a bad company.

[Smigit]

Why should I support a product that sports the Microsoft 'Plays for Sure' nonsense instead of supporting Apple? Microsoft is the organization with a monopoly that doesn't really care about innovative products only making money even if it means taking other organizations ideas and calling them their own. Apple isn't a bad company.

And MS is? In many regards Apple is a worse company than MS, it has made many sketchy moves in the past (and thats including within the past 12 months). Taking fan sites to court for posting information that they were told by employees rings a bell as one example of such a thing. Apple may not be bad but I would call them angels either, nor are they as innovative as many make out.

Anyway if you dont wana use WMA then go for it. I and others would rather choose a player based on features and technical superiority (be that apple or creative is up to you), not whether they use a codec made by MS and/or Apple. If you dont like the codec fine, but if your reason for not liking it is because MS made it then I really wonder what thought process went into that.

Also what part of you believe Apple isnt a company that only cares about profit? The iPod isnt among the most expensive MP3 players out there out of the goodness of their hearts surely? Same applies to all their products that are usually substantually higher in price than competitors.

and no, I actually like iPods. I'm just curious about the wording of your post and the reasons not to use WMA but at the same time use apples codec.

[Flare]

Deron seriously it's just a codec.

[WelshBluebird]

even if it means taking other organizations ideas and calling them their own.

sounds like your describing apple there. :laugh: With them taking the UI from the creative player etc.

Only kidding btw. But what do you think apple are out there to do? Make friends? Apple are out there to make money - exactly like MS. Nearly all companies have making money as their top priority, over anything else.

Personally, I prefer MS's playforsure devices because I prefer WMP over iTunes. I also like the support for subcription based music.

off topic - anyone know what's happening with the Creative Apple lawsuit. I know apple counter sued, but I havn't heard anything since.

[saxondale.]

Why should I support a product that sports the Microsoft 'Plays for Sure' nonsense instead of supporting Apple? Microsoft is the organization with a monopoly that doesn't really care about innovative products only making money even if it means taking other organizations ideas and calling them their own. Apple isn't a bad company.

I really dont think its just MS which takes ideas from other companies, Apple do it too. Innovative products? IMO the iPod lacks that alot, it is one of the least innovative product i have seen since the G3 model.