Recommended Posts

I think Rap is GARBAGE!

It gives me a laugh every once in a while though.

It amazes me that some women like it - for example, in 'Get Your Roll On' they talk about punching and smacking bitches, ROFL!

Most of the lyrics are awful, the (repetitive) beats are too.

I think Rap is GARBAGE!

It gives me a laugh every once in a while though.

It amazes me that some women like it - for example, in 'Get Your Roll On' they talk about punching and smacking bitches, ROFL!

Most of the lyrics are awful, the (repetitive) beats are too.

In the words of Dave Chappelle - If the beats are right, she will dance all night.

Okay, so you say woman shouldnt like it because they talk about smacking woman.

So..... are you saying we should all not like it because they talk about killing other men?

Rap is NOT music.........PERIOD

:alien:

This coming from the man who reps "Ozark County" and claims that if we don't have time for fisihing well 'you're just too busy", and not to mention has a Marvin the Martian avatar.

Well at least we know he has a doctorate in music theory because he told us ITS NOT MUSIC............. PERIOD. You see the over exaggerated use of the ellipses means he has graduated from the highest universities of the world. No doubt we should refer to him as Dr. naap51stang because he is a farking GENIUS PEOPLE!

ALL THESE YEARS OF LISTENING TO HIP-HOP and you sir! Yes you sir have caused me to see the light! I can't believe it was all so simple.

edit - would a mod just close this thread already all we're going to get from here on out is trolling anyways.

Here's also my opinion: Making music takes a lot more than just rhyming to a rhythm with the very occasional tonal change. Don't tell me what I can and can not call my opinion.

Well then don't express your opinion as fact? You saying that "Rap is not music" is not the same as saying "In my opinion rap is not music because: x, y, z".

It has or can have: rhythm, harmony, and melody so whats your point?

Well then don't express your opinion as fact? You saying that "Rap is not music" is not the same as saying "In my opinion rap is not music because: x, y, z".

It has or can have: rhythm, harmony, and melody so whats your point?

I didn't come on and simply say rap is not music. I said "Here's my opinion: Rap is not music." In no way did I make it seem as though what I said was fact. What is the difference between saying "In my opinion rap is not music" and "Here's my opinion: Rap is not music"?

The rythm in rap is typically a four beat repeating line that remains unchanged throughout the entire "song". This also plays the "harmony" part, and how is monotone poetry a melody?

jeston, have you even heard some of the GOOD rap songs? the rhythm is not typically a four beat repeating line that remains unchanged throughout the entire "song" and they sure as hell aren't monotone

Oh? Which one is good? I'll have to listen to it over at Bigfoot's house with Nessie and the Easter bunny.

I don't know about you guys but this link really helped this thread out!

Man you sound so paranoid when some one says "rap is crap / rap is not music" :rofl:

To me rap is rubbish but i didn't want to say it because i know i would get flamed so i just said i didn't like it.

I've never liked rap and never will. Only music i will ever like is Metal and Rock. :devil:

I don't know about you guys but this link really helped this thread out!

Really lame :rolleyes:. This thread asked for opinions for rap music, that's what he is doing, don't go complain because people have different taste of music than you.

If you are looking for arguments there are plenty of them in this thread, just pick one.

Jeston..buddy....

Any form of music does not need to be complicated to be called music like you state.

Think of the earliest formes of ancient "music" uncomplicated, yet music.

Techno is perhaps complicated, but its also brain food for airheads.

I'm not saying it has to be complicated, but I am saying it needs to have a basic concept of music. That being said, the "oldest known song" in cuneiform is 4000 years old. It was composed in harmonies of thirds, like ancient English gymel, and was also written using a diatonic scale. This ancient music contains the basics of music, and is thusly considered music.

According to musicologist Jean-Jacques Nattiez, "The border between music and noise is always culturally defined--which implies that, even within a single society, this border does not always pass through the same place; in short, there is rarely a consensus.... By all accounts there is no single and intercultural universal concept defining what music might be."

In simpler terms, music is defined by what YOU think is or isn't music. So, what I think is music will not necissarily be what YOU consider music, and vice versa. As mentioned in my first post, it is my opinion that rap is not music. You won't change my mind and I don't expect to change yours.

snyper, this is not all directed towards you.

Rap can not be considered art for the following reason(s)...

- We are the only organism that produces art FOR THE REASON THAT we are the only organism that has a SPIRIT

- SO art must include elements that relate to our spirit !!! (otherwise it can not be considered art)

Today's rap only includes Appetites (and a small degree of Intellect) [No spirit]

!!! So no, today's rap is not art !!!

BTW... representing spirit does not mean that it has to be religious - there are many, many other ways to represent our spirit (which disgtinguishes us from all other animals)

Edited by rocketship

Rap can not be considered art for the following reason(s)...

- We are the only organism that produces art FOR THE REASON THAT we are the only organism that has a SPIRIT

- SO art must include elements that relate to our spirit !!! (otherwise it can not be considered art)

Today's rap only includes Appetites (and a small degree of Intellect) [No spirit]

!!! So no, today's rap is not art !!!

BTW... representing spirit does not mean that it has to be religious - there are many, many other ways to represent our spirit (which disgtinguishes us from all other animals)

What the hell are you on about?

Art must include elements of the human spirit (since we are the only organism that produces art... so obviously it is unique to humans)

Todays rap doesn't have this element...... it is not art

If you want a proper explanation... try taking a couple Aesthetic Philosophy courses or something.

I can not develope a full / proper explanation / arguement on a forum.

I think it counts as music, but it's a lazy form of music.

You only need to be able to string a sentence together and not even that, you can just make some grunting noises and "yeah yeah yeah" "uhhuh uhhuh uhhuh" and add a 2 - 3 beat in the background.

I think it is just lazy.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • No its not, there are ton of Youtube videos to get you started, what do you think people did before AI existed?
    • Read this in Humor Simpson 's voice, "Out of my way Moe".
    • You still can, its just under the Transform flyout for WordArt now
    • Likely nothing will be done in corporate America, there have been countless Tesla self-driving incidents. Then again, there have also been countless human operated incidents. It's literally daily news here in Canada, to the extent that it's now odd if we get a day where a collision doesn't get announced on the radio throughout the day...
    • SKG Hand Massager with Heat OS500 hands on by Steven Parker I was offered the chance to test out the SKG Hand Massager with Heat OS500, and full disclosure, they let me keep it regardless of my findings. Anyway, I jumped at the chance due to my long hours sitting at my desk, mousing around. Apologies for the knife cut across the top of the box; that was my doing, being a bit too heavy-handed with opening up the outer packaging. First up, what's in the box: SKG Hand Massager with Heat OS500 1x Type-C charging cable User Manual 1-Year Warranty (card) In short, everything you need to get started. According to the official Amazon listing, here are the key features: Full-Hand Air Compression: OS500 wraps your fingers, palm, and wrist with multi-chamber air compression for a complete hand relaxation experience. The extended massage chamber helps cover more of the hand and wrist area than standard palm-only hand massagers Palm Kneading with 6 Modes & 6 Intensities: Built-in palm kneading rollers add a hands-on massage feel, while 6 preset modes and 6 pressure levels let you choose the comfort level that fits your day—from gentle relaxation to a firmer full-hand massage 3 Heat Levels with Cooling Fan: Choose from 104°F, 113°F or 122°F warmth to suit different seasons and comfort preferences. The built-in cooling fan helps reduce stuffiness during heated sessions, keeping your hand feeling fresh and comfortable Easy Visual Display & Smart Timer: The digital image display clearly shows massage area, mode, intensity, heat level, and remaining time at a glance. Select 10, 15, or 20-minute sessions for quick office breaks, evening relaxation, or everyday hand care Rechargeable, Cordless & Comfortable: A 3000mAh battery supports over 90 minutes of full-function use on a full charge, with convenient USB-C charging. The soft inner lining, smooth ABS/PU finish, and premium black-gold design make OS500 ideal for home, office, or gifting With all that out of the way, here are my own findings. I gave it a try on both left and right hands, and as you can maybe see from the above YouTube Short, (sorry for the shaky video), my whole hand fits in, but my wrist barely enters the Hand Massager. I was able to push through a bit more with my fingertips extending out the other end to get a bit of massaging on the start of my wrist. Usage For some reason, there is a strap that is very difficult to fasten to my wrist with one hand. I am not sure what function it has, and it isn't mentioned in the user manual. The only thing I could find was in the product images that claimed "wrist precision". Unlike the Bob and Brad Hand Massager, this device does not massage the wrist anyway, even though a "wrist mode" is mentioned, which must be for smaller hands than I have, as it is mainly intended for the hand and fingers. In addition, for its steeper price, there are no disposable gloves provided in the box, which is a bit of an issue considering the internal cover (which appears to be elasticated nylon) cannot be removed for washing; so you are left with only one choice: always thoroughly wash your hands before using it. I can imagine this thing getting a bit grimy after a period of use, and that is a bit of a shame. With that said, the buttons on the device, from left to right, do the following: Heat button: 3-level heat control at 104°F, 113°F, or 122°F Mode button: Auto mode Circular mode Soothing mode Relax mode Palm and fingers mode Palm and wrist mode Intensity button: from (First-time users) 15Ka, 25Ka, 35Ka, 45Ka, 55Ka, 60Ka (Intensive relief) Knead button: on or off (6 pressure levels) Power button: Long-press to turn on or off Cooling button: turn on or off the cooling fan Also, in the product imagery, it states there are 36 "custom modes," but nowhere is it listed what these modes are. I can only imagine that they mean a combination of all of the above settings in different intensity levels. The device itself seems to rely on a single "kneading" mechanism located at the palm area of the hand, which spins when in use, and the other massage features are mainly utilized through the air sacs, increasing and decreasing at various levels on the hand and fingers. I am not sure it offered too much relief for someone who is typing and operating a mouse for hours at a time; further testing may be required. It does feel nice, though. Finally, you may be wondering how this fits into the scope of a tech website? Well, let me tell you something: sometimes I sit for up to 15 hours working on Neowin, and although I take breaks in between, it takes a toll on my body. I think in the immediate absence of a partner to apply relief, a good massager like this Hand Massager can shed the strains of the day in just a couple of 15-minute bursts. On the official website, this has an MSRP of $99.99, but luckily for our readers, it is selling at $10 off for just $89.99 right now on Amazon. SKG Hand Massager with Heat OS500 for $89.99 (with $10 off coupon), $99.99 MSRP For me, this gets a thumbs hands(?) down. However, it could be improved by making it so that the protective covering could be removed and thrown into the washing machine, or get yourself some disposable gloves to use with it. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Dedicated
      Almohandis earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Dedicated
      JuvenileDelinquent earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • First Post
      DrWankel earned a badge
      First Post
    • Reacting Well
      DrWankel earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      Supreme Spray LV earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      505
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      181
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      86
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      78
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      76
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!