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Holden and Vauxhall are both GM so they share some models.

Why don't Holden have anything to counter the success of the XR6T?

Because HSV hasn't got their hands on the VE platform yet.... I say YET :shifty:

I don't believe Ford use Pioneer anymore either.

now if only i could afford one, like how they have made it a little more curvier, puts my vs to shame :(

plus whats with ppl saying it looks iek a ford? i allways thought the ba falcon looked like a holden, eh either way lets hope they have improved the engine and whatnot =]

*drooools*

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I believe German Opel, English Vauxhall and it seems like Holden are all under the cap of General Motors - general cars for the general public, something for the majority of middle class population

Yeah that is pretty much correct, most of the Holden cars are pretty much re-badged, instead of just introducing a heap of different brands under the GM banner, they just release (most of) them as Holdens (Examples, the Holden Barina used tobe re-badged Opel Corsa but now it's a rebadged Daewoo Kalos (I think that is right?), the Holden Rodeo is a re-badged Isuzu Rodeo, the Holden Astra is a re-badged Opel Astra etc) the Commodore (and its variants) are the only "true" Holdens, rest are imports.

Because HSV hasn't got their hands on the VE platform yet.... I say YET :shifty:

I don't believe Ford use Pioneer anymore either.

They have now :woot:

Notice there are currently only sedans? no wagon, no ute, no Crewman or Adventura...I've heard that Holden were having trouble with those models, they should show up soon enough, plus hopefully the rumored VE based Monaro might come out sometime in the next year or two :woot:

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I had no idea the Ford Falcon was that good looking. I need to move to Australia. The only Falcon I remember are the rust buckets from the late 60s. Ford needs to bring that thing stateside as an alternative to the boring Mustangs that are a dime a dozen.

I had no idea the Ford Falcon was that good looking. I need to move to Australia. The only Falcon I remember are the rust buckets from the late 60s. Ford needs to bring that thing stateside as an alternative to the boring Mustangs that are a dime a dozen.

Well there is a very very slim chance of that happening, I was reading Wikipedia article for the Falcon and it is suggesting that the 2008 Falcon will also be made in left-hand drive and that since apparently Ford are closing down (or have closed down) the plant that produces the Crown Vic, the Aussie Falcon *might* (and a I stress might, as in they might just build the Crown Vic elsewhere) take its place, but this is pure speculation. So maybe in the future you might see some Falcon XR (most likely either a XR8 or XR6 Turbo) police vehicles or Falcon XT/Fairlane Taxis cruising North America and privately owned ones too ;) and if Ford do bring the Falcon to North America they should also bring the FPV vehicles (specifically the GT, GT-P and F6 Typhoon) as well.

Why get a Mustang if you could get this (see below)? :p (no offense to the Mustang fans out there, I think it's a great car, Ford brought it to Australia for a while but it was pulled due to lack of interest)

I probally should stop filling a Holden thread with Ford stuff now :laugh: ...oddly enough I'm a Holden man myself, but I have to admit the BA/BF Falcons are awesome cars :) ok I'll stop it now :p

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I will have to agree with those that say that powerful cars are not really needed. You only use like 20% of it's features and power. I know because my parents has this phathom-coloured (strong dark purple) XR6. Guess what. They have never made use of many of it's features. Why need a car that max out at like 280 kmh when all you need is like 150 kmh. The max speed allowed here is 110 kmh on many roads except in NT where it's up to you how fast you want. These cars are designed for racing in mind especially the V8 Supercars.

These new commodores sure does look like my parents XR6. Very similar headlights to a regular BA, very similar body style as well.

I will have to agree with those that say that powerful cars are not really needed. You only use like 20% of it's features and power. I know because my parents has this phathom-coloured (strong dark purple) XR6. Guess what. They have never made use of many of it's features. Why need a car that max out at like 280 kmh when all you need is like 150 kmh. The max speed allowed here is 110 kmh on many roads except in NT where it's up to you how fast you want. These cars are designed for racing in mind especially the V8 Supercars.

These new commodores sure does look like my parents XR6. Very similar headlights to a regular BA, very similar body style as well.

Look the same. There is nothing alike in the whole car. Seriously. BA driver, and Commodore lover, they are compeltely different.

The only thing the looks remotly similar is the bonnet. Long and quite flat. Thats just because thats what people want to buy.

Actually looking at selling the BA for a VZ Commodore. Not sure yet. Possibly a XR6T

I will have to agree with those that say that powerful cars are not really needed. You only use like 20% of it's features and power. I know because my parents has this phathom-coloured (strong dark purple) XR6. Guess what. They have never made use of many of it's features. Why need a car that max out at like 280 kmh when all you need is like 150 kmh. The max speed allowed here is 110 kmh on many roads except in NT where it's up to you how fast you want. These cars are designed for racing in mind especially the V8 Supercars.

Oh, because your parents do everything that other people might do with their cars? Commodores and Falcons are great workhorse cars because they have plenty of torque and so can tow decent loads. They are also a drivers car built for comfortable or fun open road driving with plenty of power there when you need it to overtake someone.

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