"You can use a PS3 as a dedicated server."

[yankee lion]

Dylan Jobe

Producer at Incognito (Warhawk), on Sony's online service

"Sony's not going to charge you. That allows us some freedom. If, hypothetically, Sony was incredibly rigid and you had to pay for everything, then we wouldn't be able to allow gamers to host their own servers or have these more complicated network structures. Sony gives us a lot of freedom in that regard. In Warhawk, you can use a PS3 as a dedicated server. You'll see stats, the map, and all of that, so you can be an administrator."

This is very interesting, I would imagine a 32 player game in Warhawk would be less laggy if a dedicated machine was running it. I think it's the step in the right direction, I mean PC games have been doing this for years, seems like a good idea.

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[MLIFE]

Well many buy PCs more ofthen that Console cycles (4-5 years?)..so they will have more PCs spare. I have 2 PCs spare for server jobs (+-2Ghz/1gb ram).

I wonder how many will have extra PS3s? Would be neeter if you could run dedicated servers on x86 platforms...

oh well, still nice I guess

[lnmnky]

Would be neeter if you could run dedicated servers on x86 platforms...

That would be good for all systems. I have a PC and a 360.

I would be much happier leavin my stable tested PC on all day hosting, than I would leavin on a games console.

I would also be able to play on my 360 at the same time or use my PC for browsing etc. Best of both worlds.

[Firefawx]

Upload speeds in the UK just aren't fast enough for this to work. I can't host 8 people in Counter Strike: Source without lagging tremendously. Although of course that's only a problem if Sony didn't provide their own servers. I wonder how they're going to finance them. Because if people end up paying for dedicated servers (as with the vast majority of PC games), Sony's online service is not free (that includes not being able to use your own PS3 to play the game whilst it's a host machine).

Oh, and I don't like the idea of relying on another person as a host.

Edited July 21, 2006 by Firefawx

[Shetland]

tis true what the other guy said.

i have 10mbps down but only like 256k up or something to that effect. actually i think its 512k but still its FAR too little compared to my downspeed.

but you'll find sites with huge servers will get ps3's like jolt.co.uk and will have series of ps3 servers setup for people and such, i think thats the idea rather than people doing it from home.

[AlphaPrime]

Oh, and I don't like the idea of relying on another person as a host.

Ever played Halo 2 online? Same deal. It's not that bad, unless the host tries to cheat.

[Sheppard]

Hahah whos gonna pay $700 for the ps3 and game and not play on it. Sony have lost the plot.

[MLIFE]

Thought it was 600 USD in the US?

Anyways, I dont see this is as loosing a plot just adding some feature that seems which wont be used that much as most people wont have a PS3 running just as a server.

If it allowed to run on x86 archs then I could be having 100/100 and 100/10 mbit servers = [ but sadly that wont happen.

[Sheppard]

It is but then youve gotta factor in the game as well which is anywhere from $60-100

[Firefawx]

you'll find sites with huge servers will get ps3's like jolt.co.uk and will have series of ps3 servers setup for people and such, i think thats the idea rather than people doing it from home.

No dedicated server providers will use PS3s. The quality simply won't be sufficient for use as a server.

[yankee lion]

Well, I'm thinking this is just an option people have. It's pretty obvious by now Sony will just do "matchmaking" like Microsoft does with Live. The person with the fastest connection in the room hosts the game. I think this is just a little bonus, like if a clan wants their own servers, etc.

[-Anthony]

Well, I'm thinking this is just an option people have. It's pretty obvious by now Sony will just do "matchmaking" like Microsoft does with Live. The person with the fastest connection in the room hosts the game. I think this is just a little bonus, like if a clan wants their own servers, etc.

Exactly like maybe if you run a game servers for a pc game and its down for whatever reason you can use the ps3 with linux until its up. Thats the only way I would use it as a server, I would never host a ps3 game on will.

[ShaneSparky_YYZ]

Seems like a good idea :) Thanks for the news

[Firefawx]

Well, I'm thinking this is just an option people have. It's pretty obvious by now Sony will just do "matchmaking" like Microsoft does with Live. The person with the fastest connection in the room hosts the game. I think this is just a little bonus, like if a clan wants their own servers, etc.

I'm not sure whether you fully understand how Live works. Microsoft still provide all the server bandwidth (and you have to pay for that). No users are relied on to provide server bandwidth. This is the most effective way of providing an online gaming service. How Sony hope to achieve something similar for free is beyond me.

[MLIFE]

I thought xbox live was just a centralised match making service.

[Bhav]

I thought xbox live was just a centralised match making service.

It is. I'm not sure Firefawx understands how Live works :pinch:

[Firefawx]

Live can be P2P or server-to-client (depending on the game). I think the majority of (if not all) 360 games work on a server-to-client basis because of their bandwidth requirements.

[MLIFE]

Any source on that? It just seems to be still that its just a very good implementation of matchmaking service and only hosts media downloads not the gaming servers....?

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

it's not even a console anymore, it's a mutated PC.

[yankee lion]

Any source on that? It just seems to be still that its just a very good implementation of matchmaking service and only hosts media downloads not the gaming servers....?

I know for a fact Halo 2 is matchmaking.

[MLIFE]

Ye it is pretty clear so with all the talk about how if a host player disconnects another one will be found. I am pretty sure all xbox 360 games are as well matchmaking. Burnout for the 360 is def a matchmaking service....

[MrA]

it's not even a console anymore, it's a mutated PC.

*cough*original xbox*cough*

Anywho, both the 360 and PS3 are equally capable. It's just that MS completely locks down their platform whereas Sony is a bit more open (probably not by much though).

[-Anthony]

Xbox Live does have servers but they don't handle specific games. The only thing they do is handle stuff like messaging, friend lists, stuff like that. Only a specific few games are hosted on a server and those are usually paid by the game's publisher.

The only reason you have to pay for Live is because Microsoft has to make a profit somehow, and even then I am not sure they do.

[Corris Veteran]

I think something like this is great.

For use if you're not going to be using it but some friends want a server to play one that they wouldn't have to worry about hosting, wouldn't have to worry about the player disconnecting if they were losing or something stupid, use for clan matches.

Don't really see a downside to this as long as they don't limit this too much.

Yeah but unlike a PC, a PS3 would probably blow up if you left it on for days at a time as a dedicated server.

And don't give me that "Stop being an anti-fanboy" bull****; you all know it's true.

Why bother posting at all, you just come off as a right prat. :no:

And when the PS3 comes out and has as many defects as the PS2 has had in its lifetime, am i allowed to throw that back in your face you stupid sony fanboy?

well when u sell as many as they did, problems are going to happen, same for any console, you just have to remember he was just retaliating against something someone had already said, and you're calling him a fanboy. :huh:

Edited July 22, 2006 by Corris

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

it's not even a console anymore, it's a mutated PC.

X-Men.. X-Box.. mutant X gene.. mutant X hardware.. :p