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Wel... I went backwards and installed 1.5 again, since I kept reading FF2 is quite a piece of crap when it comes to many things. It has bugs (which unfortunately I was witness of), and memory usage is - yes - worse than v1.5.

I don't conceive the point of view of "I like Firefox so I can give all my RAM to it", people of course are free to say and to think whatever they want or feel, but the truth is that when it comes to coding and designing a software, you must take into account CPU and RAM usage to most attention required items above all. This is why, I am going to ask you, have you ever cared about how much of your CPU does FF uses? Opera 9 is gaining a lot of users these days because they made a lot of efforts to put on it features that no other browser has, and that's great. Memory usage seems to be more eficient as well. I am no fan of Opera 9, but I must also be objective. And here Firefox is definetely in fault. Guys, Mozilla's Firefox has flaws and as you are able to read all over the internet, and I mean no cheap reviews but specialists/geeks' reviews, Mozilla didn't care at all about fixing all these flaws carried along from old builds of the browser.

My personal oppinion: if IE7 didn't lack of all the great extensions and themes (I'm using Phoenity forever) Firefox has, then I would unfortunately and sadly migrate to IE7. But since Microsoft designers lack of creativity, I should stick to Firefox. Because sooner or later, any browser but Microsoft's will have new features, and then you'll have to wait months or even years till Microsoft personel says "oh, that's a wonderful feature! Why don't we copycat it?". I say this, because this has being happening from the very early ages of Windows. What I can only expect, is that Microsoft do it well.

Making IE7 "open" to extensions is just an excuse to be able to continue working on other products, cause in the end, someone will come up with an extension that is able to do this or that, so Microsoft doesn't need to care at all.

Anyway, that's what I think. I would like Firefox to use the slim GUI IE7 has nowadays, at least I would like to be able to disable the "FILE, edit, view, etc" menu. I don't use it, nor need it. Microsoft was wise on this, wiser than others...

When I installed Firefox 2, I was expecting big changes. What I got were big headaches. Stick to v1.5 until new builds of v2 comes out. That's my professional opinion.

Take it or leave it.

ha firefox fans are such hippocrites. if ie7 used more memory then firefox then they would be laughing and saying how people should switch. Firefox has always had memory issues since day 1 and always used more then ie, and they say its ok to use up memory theres no big deal.

Well be careful about being so objective and professional, what you say about FF 2 dont make sense. List critical points so severe making 1.5 look like the better option? In my professional oppinion that will be a list of your mistakes/personal preferences/mood or a list you can make for any software... Im not so sure "specialists/geeks" regard this as common. Who are they and what are their " big headaches" when upgrading? Does that say anything about browser, upgrade process or the user? But of course, if any problem is unacceptable then stay off Firefox. IE7 is for you, Opera might have too many options.

You are aware of course that one of the major selling points for Firefox is you dont have to put up with any defaults, can change most GUI pixels etc.? Why cry about Menu-items then? You did not find build-in IE like option? If you dont know so much about how to use or tweak browser then take it easy with judgements. Some Firefox users have strange ideas of how Opera works or how certain it is computer will become infected with IE - also based on what seems to be 5 minutes evaluation. Dont waste peoples time.

If IE7, Opera and Firefox were identical they should use same memory - but they are not. Where is the surprise and importance of showing Task Manger also knows this? As I said if memory is only parameter for chosing browser trust Task Manager and uninstall accordingly. Do the same for all program categories, then you get the "best". Only takes 10 seconds to make foolproof diagnose of differences, pros/cons etc. right?

Try IE6 with MSN/Live toolbar which some claim introduced tab browsing to IE. Talk about high resource usage... Value for mb use you think? They are not that different but work differently. A shot of Task Manager under X conditions dont show that.

thagame, most dont care at all about this, just not an issue. Becomes an issue when you get problems not before - except for forums :cool: Why millions use Firefox. If not the case only developers and closest family would have it installed.

Se?or Tarzan, who is it that you are referring to in your message? Cause you are actually facing the whole community when you refer to the person "you".

To be honest, I'd rather listen statistics rather than a single person. For sure, I MUST also have the experience myself as an IT professional and bla bla bla.

Maybe you're discharging all professional reviews all around the network and minimizing it to a simple MOOD change:pp I think THAT doesn't make any sense at all.

Maybe you should take into account the possibility of the DOUBT;))

Well my Firefox 2 ended up using over 600MB last night... yep thats right... a massive 600MB!!! Yes i had about 35 tabs open... but before i went to bed it was at about 300MB, and when i woke up it was above 600MB and slow as hell... i closed it and reopened it with the same tabs and it took less than 200MB. Why oh why does firefox increase its memory usage when its not being used?

I ended up downloading and trying Opera 9 today... unfortunately didnt like it at all. Tomorrow i might try Maxthon again... or even consider starting to use IE7. I really want to stay with FF but its memory usage is pathetic. I don't have 300MB+ of ram to waste on a browser.

Right now my FF is using 317MB.

Se?or Tarzan, who is it that you are referring to in your message? Cause you are actually facing the whole community when you refer to the person "you".

To be honest, I'd rather listen statistics rather than a single person. For sure, I MUST also have the experience myself as an IT professional and bla bla bla.

Maybe you're discharging all professional reviews all around the network and minimizing it to a simple MOOD change:pp I think THAT doesn't make any sense at all.

Maybe you should take into account the possibility of the DOUBT;))

You dont speak of doubts but try to make up some "facts" by quoting unnamed sources. I dont care if they are professional or not - would probably prefer the latter given the choice. You have problem with Firefox, stop crying, invest some time - deal with it on your computer instead of reading headlines, blogs and what not. No individual can judge the way you do, definitely not one who cant figure out how to modify basic GUI.

What am I discharging? Your rant yes, any problem with Firefox certainly not. They better fix it and most likely will. And problem was you went back to 1.5 following your "professional opinion" ? Ok... There are Firefox fanboys who have same patience to Opera or even IE, very annoying.

Currently sitting at 124MB, two tabs (both neowin, one being this thread); I liked Opera 9 better because of that but there were some extensions that I missed too much that brought me back, if I need memory I can close Fx and start over again.

This thread on Mozillazine shows both way of looking at and reporting memory usage http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.ph...ris&start=0 Either diagnose which involves more than using task manager or keep crying. Some good posts on page 2.

Since extensions are the cause of many too-high-memory-usage reports (like when upgrading to 2) Add-on site could help a lot by informing of basic diagnostics and what to look out for. Not all run around on forums and knowledgebases, that site is where the info should be. The guy who did Leak Monitor Tool probably agrees http://dbaron.org/log/2006-01#e20060122a

ok so we've all established that Firefox is a huge memory hog. I love the browser, but I hate it for how inefficient it is.

Anyone know of any good tips on reducing the usage? Like by disabling the previous page cache thing that doesn't actually make it any faster for me.

This was from a couple of weeks ago.

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FF has been using so much more CPU power since i got FF 2.

It actually stutters Itunes sometimes when i'm opening pages, and jutters when i minimize it, anyone know why?

It didn't used to before i upgraded it.

Gah, does it to me as well, it's mitigated because i have a dual core chip, Windows just runs other tasks on the other core (so only Firefox freezes)

The are times when I see firefox is using over 200mb of memory. And thats with only 2 tabs open with no add ons. One tab has myspace open and the had my citibank page cuz i was paying some bills online. Oh I was wondering if firefox ever crashed randomly and why is it that sometimes the pages do not load up properly. like when I was on neowin. instead on loading like it usually does. it loads up in some funky way. where the images are off track and stuff. I think firefox still need some work.

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