Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

[Blaine]

It's not like its XP or Vista. :p

lmao true. I'm ditching my vista ultimate for an iMac as soon as they get peryn processors

[MasterC]

lmao true. I'm ditching my vista ultimate for an iMac as soon as they get peryn processors

Good decision. ;)

[Blaine]

Good decision. ;)

Absolutely, but it sucks because they probably won't see peryn updates till this spring.

The wait will kill me, but at least I'll get to try vista sp1 before I make the switch.

Not that I'm keeping vista or anything regardless of how good or bad it gets after sp1 :p

[richardsim7]

Well you might as well have a small partition for bootcamp for possibly games or some other random windows app you may want to run? :)

-Rich-

[Pharos]

Yay I got it 1 day early! :) I don't get it though, to be honest when I minimize or restore a window, animations are kinda sluggish, not as smooth as they used to be in Tiger. Fresh install here on a Macbook 2.16ghz 1gb ram... Maybe because of that reflective dock and all the new effects they've added the GMA 950 is starting to take its toll? :(

[CPressland]

Sorry for being offtopic here but I wanted to add another note for my fellow geeks to see,

As per the speculation of the Macs running cooler with Leopard i'd like to point a few things out.

As any developer knows (not including the infamous uTorrent coders) as you improve your software and add features to it you almost always end up with a bigger file that requires more CPU time to run, every operating system ever created has shown this, Coding has got sloppy over the years but Apple have managed to keep Leopards coding very very refined.

So when I was running Mac OS X Tiger my CPU usage was almost always 0.20% or something very minor like that, occasional jumps to 15% when browsing websites but very low usage. and as a result, very low system temps, however since upgrading to Leopard my CPU seams to idle around 15% surely this is just spotlight or some other maintenance but activity monitor shows Kernel_Task to be the culprit so it has to be something truly down under the hood in leopard.

Anyway to wrap this up, my average temperature on Tiger was 45?c my average temperature on Leopard is 60?c

Battery life on Tiger was about 5 hours if I was just browsing the net, but only four hours on leopard.

Please don't mis-read this as me bitching about Leopard or anything, its another great and solid Mac OS but I think Apple need to clean this beast up a little more.

[giga Veteran]

Your CPU idles around 15%? :| That's definitely not right. Mine idles at 1-2%.

[Cormier6083]

iAm so jealous of you guys and your Macintoshes.

(So much that I might hold a grudge on you guys for the rest of eternity :D )

On a lighter note, is it installed yet, xFodder?

[Xero]

Just a little pet peeve of mine with the new Front Row. I like the interface design and all, but it doesn't really seem much like front row as much as it does for back row. I have a 20" screen right now, 24" coming.. but either way I like using it from across the room, its easier to see the song playing on the Tiger Front Row. I wish they did something different that kept the same style. I uno, maybe its just me.

[rajputwarrior]

I have a Macbook and don't get any framerate issues? Can you be more specific? Everything is smooth and fast here. :s

i have gotten my macbook to slow right down to a crawl. about 20 finder windows open, parallels running some windows diag software for my hardware class assignment and i was watching the unreal tournament 3 trailer in HD. oh yeah, safari, msn and word where going to. All in different spaces, and then i ran expose in spaces with all four windows showing. Poor hard drive and vid card never saw it coming. It was slow as hell. Oh yeah, i was burning to.

Oh yeah, I LOVE SPACES. i know it's nothing knew, but the way it's implemented is just genious

lmao true. I'm ditching my vista ultimate for an iMac as soon as they get peryn processors

very good call

[osirisX]

Finally have it installed :D! I did an upgrade and it went fine. Spotlight is indexing my Mac now which is making things a bit slow. I'll say more about it later on after I've played around with it.

[crazzyyfool]

Got my Leopard this morning at half six :D took 23 minutes to install on my MBP. Does anyone know if there are any Safari extensions that work like PithHelmet and Saft? These two aren't Leopard compatible :(

[CPressland]

i have gotten my macbook to slow right down to a crawl. about 20 finder windows open, parallels running some windows diag software for my hardware class assignment and i was watching the unreal tournament 3 trailer in HD. oh yeah, safari, msn and word where going to. All in different spaces, and then i ran expose in spaces with all four windows showing. Poor hard drive and vid card never saw it coming. It was slow as hell. Oh yeah, i was burning to.

Oh yeah, I LOVE SPACES. i know it's nothing knew, but the way it's implemented is just genious

very good call

He was refering to my issue of Leopard having bad framerate issues in general, like minimising and restoring windows, same goes for dock animations, i've fixed most of these issues by leaving the system on for 1 day 9 hours.

However i'll be running a clean install to see if that fixes my 15% idle issue

[MasterC]

Finally have it installed :D! I did an upgrade and it went fine. Spotlight is indexing my Mac now which is making things a bit slow. I'll say more about it later on after I've played around with it.

Great news (Y) You just helped me make my mind on if I should upgrade or clean install.

Got my Leopard this morning at half six :D took 23 minutes to install on my MBP. Does anyone know if there are any Safari extensions that work like PithHelmet and Saft? These two aren't Leopard compatible :(

Since they aren't compatible, is it a good idea to remove them before installing?

[crazzyyfool]

Since they aren't compatible, is it a good idea to remove them before installing?

I actually done a Clean Install. All my data is backed up to a bootable external. I just wanted to know if there are any utilities that do the same things. Specifically being able to save multiple browser sessions. Thats all I really want atm. No to worried about ad blocking and stuff...yet. ;)

[EDIT] I found this for session saving. Safari has it built-in...kinda.

Edited October 26, 2007 by kraized

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Arrggghh... I can't take it any more! I'm ordering my copy of Leopard NOW.

[instant.human]

so to kinda sum it up for me:

on some macbooks (which especially im interested in since i have one too) it runs faster than tiger and everythings so fine and on other macbooks it runs more bad?

could someone with a macbook that runs faster post their specifications and could someone do so with a macbook on which leopard runs slower?

i would really appreciate it.

im planning to do an upgrade, no other choice atm so it would be quite nice to know what you did.

thanks you.

[Timan Veteran]

Removed Feature #50000001

You used to be able to drag multiple files into the dock to create a stack. Well it seems you can no longer do this. Also seems any animated items no longer are animated in the dock, (movies, games,sites with animation).

:(

[instant.human]

huh? that would be odd...

[Corona]

Removed Feature #50000001

You used to be able to drag multiple files into the dock to create a stack. Well it seems you can no longer do this. Also seems any animated items no longer are animated in the dock, (movies, games,sites with animation).

:(

I'm having the exactly the same problems, If I select multiple files and drag them to dock each file gets an icon instead of a stack, movie is not getting played when quicktime minimized to dock, also my menu bar is not semi transparent :s

[Elliott]

Removed Feature #50000001

You used to be able to drag multiple files into the dock to create a stack. Well it seems you can no longer do this. Also seems any animated items no longer are animated in the dock, (movies, games,sites with animation).

:(

I dunno about you, but I always used to watch those movie previews in my dock. </sarcasm>

If it saved some CPU cycles, then I'm all for them stopping those previews. I kinda wished they had made movies pause all-together while minimized, though. The sound would get annoying after a while. :p

[raskren]

As any developer knows (not including the infamous uTorrent coders) as you improve your software and add features to it you almost always end up with a bigger file that requires more CPU time to run, every operating system ever created has shown this, Coding has got sloppy over the years but Apple have managed to keep Leopards coding very very refined.

Larger binaries don't necessarily require more processing power.

Have you seen the OS X source code to verify the claim that, "...Leopards [sic] coding very [sic] very refined."?

Please don't mis-read this as me bitching about Leopard or anything, its another great and solid Mac OS but I think Apple need to clean this beast up a little more.

10.4.0 wasn't a solid release either. It wasn't until 10.4.1 (which was released rather quickly) that fixed most widespread bugs.

[raskren]

I just found this on Paul Thurrot's site:

Is a Windows machine really represented as an old Windows 98 Blue Screen of Death?

[giga Veteran]

raskren: Yes, yes it is. :p Though I manually added my windows server which showed up as an ACD monitor.

Awesome news for Photoshop ######--PSD is compatible with Quick Look and Cover Flow! :)

[Xero]

^ Thats great news, and I love the blue screen icon for windows machines, so awesome lol