Full October 2002 Game Sales Data (console-only)

[+StevoFC MVC]

well i agree that pc games are the best but try puting the 45 ps2 games i have onto your pc and having them all installed at once so you can play them any time you want...that's not gonna work too well

[mxp]

y is ps2 on top???

i like my xbox

[jago6498]

Oh great yet another person trying to compare PC hardware to game console hardware. Ok here we go...

(1) Of course PC's are gonna have more powerful hardware. They are MULTI-TASKING machines. So it's gonna need to have some powerful to do e-mail, internet, word processing, 3D design, graphic design, games, etc. Consoles on the other hands are DEDICATED gaming machines and need alot of power to run the games. You are comparing apples and oranges.

(2) Like in #1, PC's need enough RAM to adequetly run all games, e-mail, internet, word processing, 3D design, graphic design, etc. So of course it is going to have more RAM then consoles. Deciding the amount of RAM needed for a system is a tricky issue. Sony, unfortuantely, decided wrong by putting too little RAM. That is why the textures in some games don't look as good as they do on Gamecube & Xbox. Again, you're comparing apples and oranges.

(3) Again like in #1 & #2, video cards on computers aren't used for just games. A game consoles main purpose, incase you haven't picked up yet, is to play games. A video cards performance varies on the quality of the drivers, while a game consoles video performance is always the same.

Oateater's statement of:

pc > xbox > ps2 > gba > gc

Is based on a matter of opinion. One machine is not better then the other. It all depends on your taste and what makes you happy.

I mean how many times can Mario face Bowser or save a princess??

Well considering that Mario has been around for what? 15 years? And the games are still critically acclaimed by people smart enough to figure out that GAMEPLAY is KING, not GRAPHICS. What does it matter how a game looks? If you were to take away great graphics from a game and it has no gameplay value, then the game obviously sucks. I dought you have ever given the Gamecube a chance and sat down and actually played a few of the games for it.

It wouldn't make sense to make a game console out of the G4 or a current x86 CPU b/c they would be too expensive to mass produce. It makes a little more sense to either make a custom CPU or do what M$ did and use an older chip (i.e. the Pentium III 733Mhz).

As a former employee of Best Buy...

Gee makes me wonder why you are a "former" employee. You need to do more research on stuff before you try to sound like you know what you are talking about.

[NeoSigma]

Man, this kind of debate never ends. It all depends on the person, if you love Nintendo and their history in the gaming industry you'll stick with GameCube. If you like the name Sony cause you have a Sony TV or DVD player and that it was the first company to release a high performance console than you'll by PS2. If you are a beta addict and like PCs with windows and products from microsoft, you'll by XBOX.

All in all, there is no winner. Who cares about sales, most people by PS2 probably cause parents buy em for the kids and ask the sales person for advice and their respone maybe bias. Since it's selling more than the others, people assume its better and buy it and that adds to its image.

Hardware wise it goes - XBOX, GameCube, PS2

Game wise it goes - PS2, XBOX, GameCube

History/Experience wise - GameCube, PS2, XBOX

You have too look at exclusives too. Nintendo has CAPCOM, XBOX now has RARE

I decided on a GameCube cause I like Games like Resident Evil and Metroid. Also because I already have a DVD Player dedicated to DVDs so why need it in a console. Why not buy a console dedicated to gaming only.

Anyway that's my two cents

[+StevoFC MVC]

if you think the n64 (which they stopped even making games for) is good for the history side of nintendo there's something wrong, i think nintendo should just stop selling hardware like sega did. they need to realize they can't compete anymore.

[ThunderThor]

As a former employee of Best Buy...

Gee makes me wonder why you are a "former" employee. You need to do more research on stuff before you try to sound like you know what you are talking about.

Yes in respond to your questioning why I was a former employee, it was because I moved on to bigger and better things...IE....working for a computer company.

Secondly, I agree Nintendo should stop selling hardware, true they may have been around longer than the others, but that doesnt really mean that they are a better system.

[twist]

if you think the n64 (which they stopped even making games for) is good for the history side of nintendo there's something wrong, i think nintendo should just stop selling hardware like sega did. they need to realize they can't compete anymore.

yah, nintendo is gonna go outta bussiness real soon... if anyone is gonna drop outta the concole market anytime soon it'll be M$

[aaron901]

Okay, refering to your huh??? What he was saying was The PC is a better system than an Xbox which is better than ps2 which is better than game cube.

Well I would have to say that yeah no kidding that a PC is a better system for games, there are millions of reasons, but I'll be nice and name just a few.

Number 1: Processor, lets look at todays current processors, they are all about in the 2.0 Ghz range where what XBox is only 700 or 750mhz?? :huh:

Number 2: You can jam pack a PC full of RAM up to say 2 Gig of RAM, now what gaming system can touch that? :huh:

Number 3: Lets not forget video card, how can you compare a 128 MB card to any video game systems graphics.

So basically what I am saying is that you cannot even put a PC against any other system, really it isnt fair because it is no match.

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Jago.... to say that you have to be smart to look past the design of the console and for the "treat" of the games, well I have one thing to say.......We have.

The actual console for PS2 is much better than Game Cube, plus the fact there are more games, plus you can run your PS1 games on a PS2. Now if you have a Game Cube that can play N64 Games, then I'll give you props but until then, I as well as the millions......... :woot: AND MILLIONS :woot: .....of PS2 gamers will agree that sony very well has the better platform. I mean how many times can Mario face Bowser or save a princess?? After a while the basics behind Nintendos games have lost touch, and I will say that Nintendo started out as a gaming system for kids, and today it still is a gaming system for kids. Nintendo has been out of the gaming race for a long time, and it will take them a while before they can have a system that can match up to the par of Sony or even Microsoft (Blah).

Hmm...heres a thought? What if apple took a G4 Processor and made their own gaming system? It def. would be a match up for Xbox, considering that the G4 will blow by the Xboxs processor. Anyway....I can't believe how far off base this thread got from the start......Ha, well that goes to show how one person can change the way a thread goes..........

Ha, thanks StevoFC. :laugh:

biggest poopoo i've heard all day. great effort jmbosi to show your ignorance. ;)

[jago6498]

if you think the n64 (which they stopped even making games for) is good for the history side of nintendo there's something wrong, i think nintendo should just stop selling hardware like sega did. they need to realize they can't compete anymore.

Every company is going to have products that fail. Sony hasn't been around long enough to have systems fail on them. M$ hasn't been around long enough a console to fail, but it has had plenty of software fail. No company is immune to bad products.

It is important to note that SEGA has had more failings then Nintendo.

32x

Sega CD

Saturn

Nintendo:

N64

I won't include Dreamcast b/c it was a great system and died much sooner then it should have. Nintendo isn't going anywhere people, they already stated that they are in this business to stay and are already working on the GBA & Gamecube follow-ups.

This something that "SPYDER" (Neowin Mod) stated in another thread that is part of my sig now:

can i ask a quick question? what does it matter how many games there are? will you ever own all of them? no. forget quantity of games..look at the system that has the games YOU like. make that your deciding factor. --SPYDER--

All the systems are good and what makes happy, makes you happy. So let's not start on borderline insults **cough**twist**cough**

I guess some people can have a mature discussions and others can't. :unsure:

[ThunderThor]

;) Ha No Problem

[aaron901]

;) Ha No Problem

buddy seriously, i feel embarassing to own a ps2 after seeing your poopoo argument. please don't act like you speak for millions of ps2 owners out there. i feel ashamed. :(

[+StevoFC MVC]

don't forget virtual boy in the list of nintendo screw ups...gotta love red lines on a beefed up pair of goggles...

[ThunderThor]

I will say that my two all time games for Nintendo will be Tetris and Duck Hunt. I remember as a kid trying to shoot the dog when I'd miss the ducks. :)

[+StevoFC MVC]

I will say that my two all time games for Nintendo will be Tetris, and Duck Hunt.

i got 3 words for ya...

Super Mario 3

(then it was all downhill) :yes:

[ThunderThor]

I will say that my two all time games for Nintendo will be Tetris, and Duck Hunt.

i got 3 words for ya...

Super Mario 3

(then it was all downhill) :yes:

I got 3 more words for ya...

Turtles in Time ---------- scratch that, how about i say

Super Mario Brothers All-Starts, more like 5 but its a collection of all the worst games put into one giant game. I think they did that so you didnt have to lug tons of games when you where heading to your buddies houses.

[jago6498]

don't forget virtual boy in the list of nintendo screw ups...gotta love red lines on a beefed up pair of goggles...

Oops, I guess I forgot one.

i got 3 words for ya...

Super Mario 3

(then it was all downhill)

Did you even play Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Sunshine?

If you had then you wouldn't be saying that...

buddy seriously, i feel embarassing to own a ps2 after seeing your poopoo argument. please don't act like you speak for millions of ps2 owners out there. i feel ashamed.

AMEN to that brotha!!! It's nice to know that you and I always seem to agree on some things. :D

[jago6498]

I will say that my two all time games for Nintendo will be Tetris, and Duck Hunt.

i got 3 words for ya...

Super Mario 3

(then it was all downhill) :yes:

I got 3 more words for ya...

Turtles in Time ---------- scratch that, how about i say

Super Mario Brothers All-Starts, more like 5 but its a collection of all the worst games put into one giant game. I think they did that so you didnt have to lug tons of games when you where heading to your buddies houses.

I get the feeling you have something against Nintendo...

Not sure why tho...

[ThunderThor]

yes the thing i have against nintendo is its terrible

[+StevoFC MVC]

Did you even play Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Sunshine?

If you had then you wouldn't be saying that...

yes actually i have played all of them...super mario 3 is easily as good as super mario world and SM3 was for the regular nintendo

as for super mario 64 i think i hate that more than any game i've ever played

what about luigi's mansion? haha you left that one out because even you know it is horrible.

[Chad]

I'm not sure why you guys are ragging on the N64. It was far from a failure. I own a ps2 and an N64 and I still find myself playing Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and other n64 games as much as ps2. N64 is by far the best multiplayer system ever. You can have your online gaming crap. but it will never be the same as hearing and seeing your buddy's reaction next to you.

Long live N64!!!

[ThunderThor]

Multiplayer thats old school.........

Remember Pong on Atari.......Hell Yeah

[+StevoFC MVC]

I'm not sure why you guys are ragging on the N64. It was far from a failure. I own a ps2 and an N64 and I still find myself playing Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and other n64 games as much as ps2. N64 is by far the best multiplayer system ever. You can have your online gaming crap. but it will never be the same as hearing and seeing your buddy's reaction next to you.

Long live N64!!!

umm it's called a multi tap, connect two and have 8 players

[Chad]

I'm not sure why you guys are ragging on the N64.  It was far from a failure.  I own a ps2 and an N64 and I still find myself playing Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and other n64 games as much as ps2.  N64 is by far the best multiplayer system ever.  You can have your online gaming crap.  but it will never be the same as hearing and seeing your buddy's reaction next to you.

Long live N64!!!

umm it's called a multi tap, connect two and have 8 players

Do you have any idea how many good games support 4 players on the ps2? Not very many. I can think of a couple. PS2(and xbox) will never compare to the N64 for multiplayer gaming.

[macrosslover]

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

you've never played Halo have you?? or Time splitters 2, let's not forget perfect dark when it comes out. unreal, mech assault, ghost recon, there will be Halo 2, all the sports games....i can't think of any else right now.

[jago6498]

yes the thing i have against nintendo is its terrible

Wow, thats a great argument you got there...

what about luigi's mansion? haha you left that one out because even you know it is horrible.

I didn't mention it b/c I don't think it is on par with other Mario games. It's not terrible, but it is still an enjoyable game tho.