Does Windows Vista Aero look like Mac OS X Aqua to you?

[rr_dRock]

i hate mac fanboys.

im not a windows fanboy either...

why not say Ubuntu stole their design from osx too? i mean cmon. the menus are at the top :o

omg!

they dont look ANYTHING alike.

if you think they do. your either

1) a blind pink monkey

or 2) a mac fanboy.

Obviously they've seen it or they wouldn't be throwing around these accusations. You Windows fanboys just can't take the fact that developers share ideas. This is NOTHING to get offended by -- it is not UNHEARD of for developers to SHARE IDEAS. Get over it and MOVE ON.

are you kidding? have you heard of GOSSIP? hulllooo... most mac osx fanboys WONT GO NEAR A windows rig. use vista. then tell me that its the same.

Edited February 20, 2007 by Frank
Personal Attacks are NOT welcome.

[Mistwaver]

Vista looks SOOOO much better.

Mac looks way ugly.

Look at how old Mac OS X is, now compare Mac OS X's visuals to the Windows operating system of its generation -- Mac OS X is one of the prettiest operating systems ever made, which is why no one ever kept the original Windows visual look and always tried to emulate it to look like Mac OS X as much as possible.

That was also a bad screenshot of Mac OS X. They didn't have it setup. Find one setup properly and it still looks as good as Vista.

[ahmz]

Is that a trick question?

[1WayJonny]

OSX is F'UGLY!!!!!!!

Please dont compare anything to vista whats next .... "Looking Glass" LOL

[XerXis]

Look at it again. The texturing may not be anywhere the same, but the overall design of the window is indeed very similar.

give me one example :)

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Obviously they've seen it or they wouldn't be throwing around these accusations. This is NOTHING to get offended by -- it is not UNHEARD of for developers to SHARE IDEAS. Get over it and MOVE ON.

1) Nothing obvious about it. That's part of jumping on a bandwagon - you don't need to have ant evidence, just run with whatever other people are saying.

3) Yes, developers share ideas, and a truly perfect OS would be an evolution of many different preceeding OS's converging to a point. But saying it was "copied" as many people blindly claim is false.

Edited February 20, 2007 by Frank

[MrCobra]

Look at it again. The texturing may not be anywhere the same, but the overall design of the window is indeed very similar. This is no surprise though -- just about every other feature in Vista was ripped from Mac OS X as well (there are differences, but you can tell where the general ideas came from). I don't know why you Windows fanboys get so offended by this though, it's not unheard of for two applications to share similar ideas.

It seems like all the Windows fanboys are just so easily offended by these accusations. Deal with it. Programs have been developed for years, and just about every possible idea has been used in some way, shape, or form -- now developers are having to share ideas.

Just take video games for example. Give me a call when you see a game that doesn't share ideas from another one -- I'll be waiting a long time, because there never has been, and never will be.

Whether people call it stealing or not, the simple fact is that MS has a right to use certain aspects of the UI from Apple. It was licensed that way a long time ago and was one of the reasons the whole "Look & Feel" lawsuit Apple file against MS was dropped.

[giga Veteran]

give me one example :)

iCal:

Windows Calendar:

Oh and the search?

[Mathachew Veteran]

No, they do not look alike.

On a side note for some of the above comments about Windows fanboys, anytime Microsoft uses an idea, Mac fanboys scream, "RIP OFF! COPIED! STOLEN!" Even Jobs jumps into this tirade of blind accusation. So much for sharing ideas :rolleyes:

[XerXis]

iCal:

Windows Calendar:

Oh and the search?

i'll give you the search, altough it has been custom for years now to put the search in the right upper corner (not only os x, look at browsers etc)

the calendar, i see two calendars yes, how many ways are there to show a calendar. I anything, the windows one looks easier to use because of the toolbar (note that i use the outlook calendar so i don't know). The outlook calendar has looked something like that for years

[giantsnyy]

what about windows sidebar... a cheap ripoff of dashboard? what about that winkey+tab bs which shows your desktop in 3d... looks a lot like a ripoff of expose to me. Windows Calendar? thats iCal without a doubt. The new save interface... quite similar to OS X. the "Search" bar in the start menu? Isn't that spotlight?

I have both a PC and a MacBook Pro. I had Windows Vista installed. It was too slow, took up too much memory and was utterly useless in terms of *new/spectacular* features which warrant the purchase of the new operating system. If i really wanted to use all of these *new* features I would just use my mac (which I do use more than my pc). Vista was the biggest waste of $200.

[MDboyz]

Did you MACFan know that Apple borrow the GUI design from XEROX too?

Don't think Apple come up with the idea in the first place anyway.....

[digitalsoft]

There?s no comparison imo... Maybe a identicalness with the calendars but that?s all... as for the round edges I didn?t even notice that aqua had them... or vista... shows how much I pay attention to little pointless things.

[giga Veteran]

i'll give you the search, altough it has been custom for years now to put the search in the right upper corner (not only os x, look at browsers etc)

the calendar, i see two calendars yes, how many ways are there to show a calendar. I anything, the windows one looks easier to use because of the toolbar (note that i use the outlook calendar so i don't know). The outlook calendar has looked something like that for years

The image didn't reveal all of iCal's buttons on the buttom of the window--new task and new appt. are all there.

Also forgetting the iLife suit? Windows Photo Gallery? DVD Maker?

[Nightwind Hawk]

Oh and the search?

It's just a regular thing to put the search in that position, as XerXis said. Microsoft doesn't really have that big of a choice here: they either put the search where users expect (and can be said to have "copied it") or put it somewhere completely different, where users will find it annoying and incositent.

[azz0r_wugg]

Doesn't really matter who copied who does it.

Fact of the matter is; Aero isn't a copy of Aqua (the question of this thread).

IMHO Vista looks alot better than OSX.

[Frank]

OK Enough with the FanBoy personal attacks. The next person who calls someone else a FanBoy will not only get a warning but also a suspension from Neowin.

Keep debating the topic but don't result to personal attacks. If your point can't be made without attacking another member it shouldn't be posted.

[giga Veteran]

Did you MACFan know that Apple borrow the GUI design from XEROX too?

Don't think Apple come up with the idea in the first place anyway.....

They got full permissions.

[ahhell]

The OSs look NOTHING alike. In fact, the brushed metal look of OSX is pretty ugly...I never did like the look of it.

Edited February 20, 2007 by Frank
DON'T TROLL.

[RichyCizzo]

what about windows sidebar... a cheap ripoff of dashboard? what about that winkey+tab bs which shows your desktop in 3d... looks a lot like a ripoff of expose to me. Windows Calendar? thats iCal without a doubt. The new save interface... quite similar to OS X. the "Search" bar in the start menu? Isn't that spotlight?

Windows Sidebar and Dashboard were pretty much cheap rips of Konfabulator. Sure it didn't have some gradient transparent bar to place them in but all those WIDGETS were from Konfabulator.

[Malisk]

No, I think it looks nothing like it. The design is very different, and the entire foundation of it with the glass effects isn't even there in OS X. Otherwise..

- Aero also doesn't use textured windows, but OS X frequently does either in the form of subtle stripes or brushed metal.

- The menu bars are attached to the desktop in OS X, but the windows in Aero.

- The window buttons aren't placed in the same way.

- The window titles aren't placed in the same way.

- The Task Bar and Dock are far from direct equivalents.

Actually, compared to many other operating systems, I think Aero and OS X are unusually different for both being reasonably modern operating systems. If you go below the surface and start comparing the Control Panel to OS X etc, you only start seeing even more differences.

Edited February 20, 2007 by Jugalator

[giga Veteran]

Windows Sidebar and Dashboard were pretty much cheap rips of Konfabulator. Sure it didn't have some gradient transparent bar to place them in but all those WIDGETS were from Konfabulator.

Hm, and where did Konfabulator get the idea for widgets?

http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator

[rr_dRock]

linux rocks.

[MrCobra]

They got full permissions.

Nope.

At the time that Apple had the look and feel lawsuit against MS, Xerox was waiting on the side lines to see how the case turned out. If Apple had won that case then Xerox was all set to sue Apple over the look and feel argument. As it turns out, even if Apple had won the case, Xerox waited too long to file suit.

[MightyJordan]

Man, I've started a riot here by accident. In case anyone thought this was just a joke I was playing, I've got the Wikipedia page where I found this ridiculous question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_...s_with_Mac_OS_X