GDC: "The Wii is a piece of sh*t," says Hecker

[Blackhearted]

I've never even heard of this company called "Definition 6". Why should i, or anyone else for that matter, be bothered with what some guy who's company i've never even heard of says?

[WiZzArD]

This guy is a loon. We should have a poll. But I'll save time and announce the results now. How many people have heard of Nintendo? 100%. How many have heard of "Definition 6" and Chris Hecker? 2% maybe? :laugh: He hasn't shipped a single game and he's insulting Nintendo? :laugh:

[nid~vaeda]

well one has to admit that the wii is not something to look at or play for the pretty graphics because let's face it, they are absolutely horrid and unfortunately stuck in the 80s but the games are damn fun and this is where Nintendo wins. Nintendo never does graphics, they sell fun and you cannot compete with that.

I'll admit that the Wii doesn't have the super high dev graphics but saying that it is stuck in the 80's is going a bit far. With what it has under the hood the Wii turns out pretty looking games and add in the controlls and you have one awesome system.

[neoadorable]

don't let this man push your buttons like that.

however, the negative reaction the assetion that games are an art form got tells me many of you are...faux gamers! comon, fess up, you're just killing time, it's not really in your blood and you'd sooner be...with some dumb blonde? where did that come from?

anyway, whether on the Wii or 360, games are art. i don't know much about the Wii, but it's still gaming. the only brand of "gamer" i detest are idiots on the bus/train/at the mall that sit there with their DS's and don't even bother putting it on silent. damn you all to hell!

[Olemus]

this guy is an idiot.

[cosine]

I hope that dumbass visits neowin and reads this stuff. What a loser, seriosly...

Totally, because I'm sure the guy really cares that a couple people on an internet forum think he's a big meanie-pants for making fun of their favorite console. Just because the guy has an opinion that may not be the most popular one doesn't make him a loser. I'll be the first to agree he stated it in the worst way possible, but seriously, if you get all angry because someone said something mean about a video game console, you need to get over it.

[Razorwing]

If the Wii was such a piece of sh1t.. tell me why it's outselling both Xbox360 and the PS3?

owned.

Developers make games so that people can have fun, not just making an art form.

[Merter]

After reading this... the only thing that springs to mind about this Hecker guy is ... what a ******.

Nobody really gives a toss about your "art forms" mate, we play for fun. Hence [/begin possible flame war] The Wii has outsold Xbox and PS [/runs]

[mycoolkim]

pfft, that his opinion, does that change anything?

[Razorwing]

pfft, that his opinion, does that change anything?

it shouldn't.. because his opinion doesn't even count to be an opinion at all.

[cosine]

it shouldn't.. because his opinion doesn't even count to be an opinion at all.

Actually, it does. Someone disagreeing with you doesn't make them wrong.

[Spielo]

The fact is, he's only saying all this to make a name for himself in the industry, and it's clearly working, because everyone's talking about him now.

[cosine]

What really irks me is, if this thread had "PS3" in the title instead of Wii, and the guy's entire rant was about the PS3, all these same idiots would be in here giving the guy a virtual pat on the back, and any PS3 fans would probably get called a fanboy and driven out of the thread. Because hey, making fun of Sony is the new cool thing to do, right? Well, I've got some news for you. Nintendo is, in fact, not immune to being criticized. If this guy wants to get up on a stage during the time he booked and call the Wii a steaming pile of crap and say that everyone who likes the console is a terrorist that kills babies and kicks puppies, then he damn well can. Is he right? No. But all you Nintendo loyalists who insist on feeling the need to defend a video game console seriously need to just get over it. If you think he's wrong, great, be secure in that knowledge that he's wrong and an idiot or whatever, but for the love of god, stop playing knight in shining armor for your Wii. It's so incredibly annoying.

I'm not even sure why I clicked on this thread, I knew when I saw the title what it was going to be like.

[Spookie]

So he had his 15 mins of fame last year and he's trying for another 20?

Someone should tell him how it works.

[majortom1981]

WOW. Come on. Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker is one of if not THE most artistic Games out there and thats on the Gamecube. What obout Okami (i think thats the name) wich was on the Ps2.

He honestly has never even played a nintendo game.

Nintendo makes very artistic games on their console. They put huge detail into their games.

Even the Mii's are artistic if you think about it.

THis is coming from a developer at maxis. Maxis games have never ever been graphically intensive.

Also maxis games have HUGE BUGS and Glitches in them. he should be worrying more about fixing the bugs and stuff in spore then bashing nintendo.

ps: Cosine. Artistic games are much different then graphically intensive games. You dont need a ton of pwoer to create an artistic game. Two of the most artistic games were created on the gc and ps2 both wich have a lot less power then the 360 and ps3.

Also Why is it that nintendo can make great AI on the Wii and GC and he is complaining you can't?

[HawkMan]

Of course noone actually seems to have read what he says.

He is in fact not complaining about the Wii graphics,he is, and rigthfully so, complaingin that the Wii CPU is too weak to be used for more advanced stuff. innovative and reolutionary games isn't abotu swigning yoru control around the room, that's just a different way to control the game, it doesn't make the game more revolutionary.

Meanwhile the Multicore 360 CPU and the Cell cpu with it's children are able to do some rather awesome numbercrunching, and being multicore they can do it at the same time, (the 360 does 2 threads per CPU active at the same time, letting it handle 6 threads simultaniusly)

Take a game like Assasins creed. The wii, even if your educed the graphics to something the wii could handle, doesn't have anywhere near enough power to crunch the numbers for the AI this game needs and uses to be what it is. Games that rely heavily on physics will also need to be scaled back or drop the physics compeltely on the Wii.

Basically ebcause of the crippled CPU, the Wii is crippled a lot in what it can do. But hey you get to swing the controller around the room to "fun" games with low end graphics, that'll be fun for a while.

[NightmarE D]

He works for Maxis? The company responsible for The Sims games?

The Sims can be fun to play sometimes, but there's nothing about them that screams out "art form of the 21st century" and they're not known for their graphic quality. They look good, but they could look a lot better.

Look at the new The Sims Stories game. They say they made it to be laptop friendly to run on systems a little older. Go look at the system requirements for it. I saw it at Gamestop yesterday and it has seperate requirements for a laptop system listed on it's case. The laptop requirements are actually more than the desktop requirements. What's laptop friendly about that?

Sounds more to me like the guy knows he's a nobody in the gaming business and he's throwing a hissy fit to get some attention brought his way. He's an attention ###### and also a very big moron. If he's being serious about rushing the stage during the guys keynote, he wouoldn't have told the public about it the day before. Now that guy will most likely have some security watching out for that idiot.

Him saying the Wii has nothing interactive about it is a complete joke. That alone makes me wonder if he's ever touched one. Another thing is that Nintendo made it clear a long time ago that the graphics on the Wii wouldn't be the most important thing to them and the graphics would only be a little better than the Gamecube. They made that perfectly clear long ago. If you work in the gaming industry or you're a gamer that keeps up with the news on everything gaming related, you'd know that.

[HawkMan]

Majortom, games aren't artistic because they use an ugly from of cell shading, or because they mimic an old Japanese panting style for the game. that's just imitation, not art or artisticness, Okami wich I haven't pleayed but form what I ehard, coudl be considered an "artistic" game fromentirely different things than it's drawing style.

much like movies aren't considered artistic because they look like a Picasso painting.

In painting being artistic is one thing, often referenced to snobby peopel who think they understand art better than everyone else because they are a minority and like weird stuff most everyone else find ugly

In Movies, a similar faith has happened, where movies are only considered artistic if noone likes them except a weird few peoepl and theire is no discernible sensible story to them.

in Games we still have time to decide what is artistic, but chances are, and currently it's headign that way, that the same thign will happen, the snobs who like weird indie games nonoe else likes will decide these are artistic, and then the media goes alogn with it, because what the weird sobs says must be true, they are weird snobs after all, it's what they do.

Look at the new The Sims Stories game. They say they made it to be laptop friendly to run on systems a little older. Go look at the system requirements for it. I saw it at Gamestop yesterday and it has seperate requirements for a laptop system listed on it's case. The laptop requirements are actually more than the desktop requirements. What's laptop friendly about that?

it's laptop friendly in sofar that laptop and desktop CPU's aren't the same, so laptop requirements will ths be higher, unless it's a laptop with a desktop CPU(ie. the big noisy beasts with external battery that has at best 2 hours run time or needs to be permanently connected topower). There is a reason behind these things you know. they didn't just slap on bigger laptop specs just to be mean.

[acies]

If the Wii was such a piece of sh1t.. tell me why it's outselling both Xbox360 and the PS3?

Is it??

[Xerus]

Is it??

In January, Wii overtook PS3 and Xbox360 in the US... and its been above PS3 in Japan since release too :I

[Kravex]

Is it??

Where you been, the moon?

[ahhell]

That guy's a total dick.

I will have to remember the name of his company so I can NOT buy his ****ty games.

"doesn't take games seriously"

WTF? Games are supposed to be FUN!!

[ahmz]

lol, this should be in the Jokes & Funny Stuff section

[Mathachew Veteran]

Well, I certainly can't view Definition 6 as a serious art, er, gaming company, with the clearly unprofessional manner that Hecker carries himself. If I were at that meeting, I would've walked out. Not because he's downing the Wii, but because he can't seem to convey his message without retorting to persistent swearing.

[obsolete_power]

I have the Wii and I must say that it gets old fast. The motion thing really doesn't feel natural, it feels like a kid's toy. The only thing that sets the Wii apart is it's price. You do get a lot for your money but games are just too cartoony and too unrealistic for my taste.