Apple's "New" GUI

[RadishTM Veteran]

I think only the guys who went to WWDC are getting the developer build.

Radish?

[.Neo]

Only thing I like bout the new icons is the direct view I kinda like it, but the design is awful, especiallt for those icons when they are like 30px or worse 16. How are you gunna tell what they are, just a blob of color.

If anything the new folders are extremely crisp at 16 pixels especially compared to the current Mac OS X folder design which work poorly at smaller sizes.

Anyway, what's the deal with the Aqua scroll bars? iTunes 7 doesn't have them, Cover Flow doesn't have them, why isn't Apple being consistent and going with the iTunes 7 flat scroll bar?

Putting normal colored scroll bars in Cover Flow will look like crap. Black and white ones fit in better.

[gigapixels Veteran]

Those do look very nice at a small size. Personally I've always been a fan of flat icons, rather than isometric or 3d-esque ones. They look much better all around to me.

[Quillz]

If anything the new folders are extremely crisp at 16 pixels especially compared to the current Mac OS X folder design which work poorly at smaller sizes.

Putting normal colored scroll bars in Cover Flow will look like crap. Black and white ones fit in better.

Yeah, Cover Flow, I get the black scroll bar, but why isn't Leopard using the iTunes 7 style scroll bar universally? They claimed they are making a consistent window design, shouldn't that be extended to the scroll bars?

[osirisX]

Maybe iTunes 8 will revert back to Aqua scrollbars.

[Nonny]

Neo are those beige icons the new graphite theme?

Can you post a screen cap of the Appearance preferences in Leopard? Or describe what you can change.

[chrisgeleven]

Yeah, Cover Flow, I get the black scroll bar, but why isn't Leopard using the iTunes 7 style scroll bar universally? They claimed they are making a consistent window design, shouldn't that be extended to the scroll bars?

That might be one of those "polish" things that get done between the beta and the gold master.

I hope they do go with iTunes 7 scrollbars. Unified looks much nicer with them.

[osirisX]

I just found out that the Leopard Dock is really smart when it comes to the shadows.I thought Apple had added all the "floor" shadows to the icons themselves, but the Dock seems to do it automatically instead. See this pic:

http://lime.quickshareit.com/share/attachmentjpg1a6d7.jpg

Look at the Think, Flock and GMail icons.

[sundayx Veteran]

Why would they do it seperate? If the windows were able to be rendered on the dock, I would assume the whole thing is dynamic.

[osirisX]

Well, from all the screenshots I've seen so far there was only Apple apps. So I assumed they added the shadows themselves since they were updating all the icons for resolution independence.

[PyX]

Stop posting screenshots of Leopard.

You're making some people jealous on the forums. :p

[MindTooth]

It will be great to see the new GUI work in real life.. Hope to buy a MacBook Pro later this year..

[osirisX]

Stop posting screenshots of Leopard.

You're making some people jealous on the forums. :p

Lol I don't have the beta :p I found that screenshot over at Macrumors.

[.Neo]

Well, from all the screenshots I've seen so far there was only Apple apps. So I assumed they added the shadows themselves since they were updating all the icons for resolution independence.

Of course the whole thing is dynamic. You can't expect developers to do all those effects themselves and risk getting a crippled and messy Dock where some icons have the reflection plus drop shadow and others don't.

@drygnfyre

I don't have a clue to why those same ol' Aqua elements are still there. :/

[mattrobs]

So the folder icons don't show the contents inside it? So a window full of folders would still look pretty damn bland:

You'd think they would do something like their Stacks:

[.Neo]

And end up with the same mess Windows Vista creates? Overal it really isn't all that nice to look at IMO, all those application and document icons sticking out of one side of a folder. In most cases the file name suffies and special folders like System, Pictures, Music, Movies etc. have their own distinct icon.

I have my doubts as well with all the document icons showing their contents on Leopard.

[PyX]

EEh... It looks like when MS decided to make a blue placegolder interface for Vista... okay it was more saturated than that, but that still isn't right.

Btw, I didn't really understand the stacks. Are they just a physical folder on the hard disk, but the dock reads it this way, or if it's a virtual folder?

[.Neo]

Nope it's a virtual folder, or container if you will, that holds multiple files.

[fishrman]

Stupid question, probably a relatively simple answer: .Neo, do you have the WWDC build; or are you getting those shots from an alternate source or whatever?

[.Neo]

I'm not getting them from an alternate source.

[LTD]

Is it just me, or do Neo's screenies suggest Apple is taking cues from Cocoatech's Path Finder? I see the item count below the folders . . . this isn't an option in Tiger's finder, is it? If it is, I've never noticed.

[fishrman]

In that case...how're you finding stability, overall?

[.Neo]

Is it just me, or do Neo's screenies suggest Apple is taking cues from Cocoatech's Path Finder? I see the item count below the folders . . . this isn't an option in Tiger's finder, is it? If it is, I've never noticed.

Those screen shots are from Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.

In that case...how're you finding stability, overall?

I haven't installed it yet because I don't have enough space left on my second partition. :p

[fishrman]

Lol, had me fooled there =P. Alright, back to waiting for more first-hand accounts...

[.Neo]

Lol, had me fooled there =P. Alright, back to waiting for more first-hand accounts...

I'll probably go to my friend's tonight and install it on his Mac. I'll get back to you then about how stable the build is.