Does Vista have a Bug in it's Wireless Networking?

[Sleeper Veteran]

About one month ago my Wireless connection from my pc running Vista Ultimate kept on dropping out, on testing it would appear that all IP communicatoin between my pc and router would be lost during these 5/10 second blips causing what Im doing to time out.

So I first tried changing the wireless adapter that I was using (Cisco Aeronet 350) with a Belkin 54G USB jobby, downloaded and installed the latest drivers available for it from the Belkin site, but problem was still there, so next thing I did was get hold of a second router to try hoping that it would be the router at fault..... but nope same problem still there although my laptop running Windows XP SP2 has no issues at all.

So tonight as a last ditch attempt I did a fresh install on my pc, thing that over the last 6 months I've aquired alot of crap on my hard drive and that a clean install would fix it, but guess what.... NOPE the problem is still there.

Now after spending a couple of hours digging around the Internet it appears that quite a few people are having this issue with Vista with all different models of PC's, routers and wireless adapters and there doesnt seem to be an answer to it.

So does anyone know if this is a know issue that is planned to be fixed by MS?

Ta

[x-byte]

I also got this problem. Does in fact happens with an ethernet connection also. But not as much...

I've been trying to look more into it. Tried most of your solution with little sucess. From what I can figure out it must either be an IPv4/IPv6 issue or DNS/DHCP. I really hope MS is aware of this issue and fixes it with SP1.

[Sleeper Veteran]

There was one article I found, but it related to a beta version of Vista when the new IP stack had just been introduced, but what it talked about was identical to issues im seeing now

[x-byte]

Yea, that might be. I think it was beta 2 that had the new stack if I remember correctly. But sadly I didn't have a wireless connection at the time, so I didn't experience anything special then.

[Ap0x]

Try to turn off Ipv6...in some cases it works, dunno why.

[Sleeper Veteran]

yup, tried that already no luck for me :(

[WooSH]

well, i had this problem in XP, and after so much confusion i figured out that the problem didnt lie in my pc nor my router...it was my cordless phone. you see i had a 2.4ghz router with, yep...with a 2.4ghz phone. everytime i got a call it would drop the connection.

[Leddy]

  .statix said:

well, i had this problem in XP, and after so much confusion i figured out that the problem didnt lie in my pc nor my router...it was my cordless phone. you see i had a 2.4ghz router with, yep...with a 2.4ghz phone. everytime i got a call it would drop the connection.

I had a similar one where when the phone rang, cable TV would go spastic and the digital stream just went all fuzzy.

[peach]

  Sleeper said:

About one month ago my Wireless connection from my pc running Vista Ultimate kept on dropping out, on testing it would appear that all IP communicatoin between my pc and router would be lost during these 5/10 second blips causing what Im doing to time out.

So I first tried changing the wireless adapter that I was using (Cisco Aeronet 350) with a Belkin 54G USB jobby, downloaded and installed the latest drivers available for it from the Belkin site, but problem was still there, so next thing I did was get hold of a second router to try hoping that it would be the router at fault..... but nope same problem still there although my laptop running Windows XP SP2 has no issues at all.

So tonight as a last ditch attempt I did a fresh install on my pc, thing that over the last 6 months I've aquired alot of crap on my hard drive and that a clean install would fix it, but guess what.... NOPE the problem is still there.

Now after spending a couple of hours digging around the Internet it appears that quite a few people are having this issue with Vista with all different models of PC's, routers and wireless adapters and there doesnt seem to be an answer to it.

So does anyone know if this is a know issue that is planned to be fixed by MS?

Ta

Hey there sleeper... You indicate that you've tried all the various workarounds but I'm just curious if you tried setting up a static ip in vista IPv4. Is this one of the various workarounds you tried?

Thanks :)

[h3xis]

I'm not sure if this is relevant to the problems here but I have a constant 99% signal strength anywhere I go and it didn't used to be like that a month ago. It's not bothersome but I would like to know the strength of my wireless signal. It's an Intel 3945abg (using latest drivers for Vista) so hopefully either Intel or Microsoft will fix this problem.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Which power profile are you using?

Some wireless routers don't properly support the WiFi power management standards, and drop-out if your power profile has Wireless set to anything but "max performance."

[embj]

You know, I am having a very similar issue...I don't think that it's just with wireless. I've got my HTPC, and it's hooked up over a wired network going through a Windows-based server that acts as my router. I was copying several videos over from my laptop (runs XP x64 and is connected wirelessly) to my HTPC (runs Vista Ultimate x86 and is connected over a wired connection), so I could watch them on the TV. While I was copying them, the Vista machine just all of a sudden stopped responding for a few seconds, while connectivity to other machines and the internet still works from my laptop. It dropped the connection to the Vista machine several times while I was copying files.

I disable IPv6 out of the box on all Vista machines, and I've never experienced this on anything except that box that runs Vista. I haven't tried copying large files over to my main box, which runs Vista, too. I'm wondering if it will do the same thing. So, I am definitely curious about if it's a bug or what... :wacko:

You say yours does it whlie you are just browsing the internet?

[x-byte]

Is anyone else getting this in the event viewer?

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TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts.

I don't know if it's related or not though. But I think I get this around the same time it happens. I'll check it when it happens again.

[Sleeper Veteran]

  peach said:

Hey there sleeper... You indicate that you've tried all the various workarounds but I'm just curious if you tried setting up a static ip in vista IPv4. Is this one of the various workarounds you tried?

Thanks :)

Hi, yeah tried assigning my NIC a static IP on the IPv4 and the same thing happens.... its mad!!

[x-byte]

I've also tried that. In addition disabled the IPhelper service which lets Vista use IPv6. I though it worked in the beginning, but it doesn't.

[ajbcs]

i'm positive vista is fine, my htpc wireless connection has been up for over 72 hours and my laptop for 24hours....

Hexis are you using the 11.x.x.x series drivers or the 10.x.x.46?

[x-byte]

This happens randomly. It could be ok for several days or weeks and suddenly disconnect.

[melted98]

I am having the same problem, on both wireless and wired pcs will just lose there ips ramdomly, i have to reboot them and then they are fine, its really weird. my xp machine is fine its just my vista machines which both have ultimate on.

hope microsoft release a patch don't think i can wait till service pack 1, its anoying more than anything else

[Sniper101]

Everyones problem is the new driver you need to revert back to the original driver and disable the Updated driver within windows update so vista doesn't install this again.

You say to yourself "no it isnt" trust me it is, i spent days figuring this out and i thought to myself i will just revert my network driver back and see if that does anything and it did.

Go to Device Manager, the under network adapters right click the adapter and go to properties. Next click the driver tab and click roll back Driver, once done restart and you should now notice that it doesn't drop out anymore i have tested this and it works 100%.

If the Roll Back Driver box is grayed out you will need to open system restore and roll back your system to the time you installed the driver but i seriously recommend that you back up anything that was installed after you updated the driver other wise your going to have problems running applications :p

I posted this on my blog but....we can't post links to our blogs because everyone complains so i copied the post to here :)

Edited June 23, 2007 by Sniper101

[Sleeper Veteran]

The Wireless cards that I have in my machine don't have any drivers included by default with Vista so I've got no roll back option, i've even tried loading both the XP and Vista drivers that Belkin offer, but all still the same.

[x-byte]

It has nothing with drivers or Windows Update. I've disabled automatic Windows Update and there are no other drivers for any of my network cards.

[Sleeper Veteran]

well this is my ping i did to my router over a period of about 4/5 mins during which the signal strength was Excellent....

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
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Request timed out.
Request timed out.
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Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
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Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

[melted98]

what ever the problem/cause looks like we will all just have to sit tight and wait for microsoft to sort the problem out, hopefully sooner than later.

[Sleeper Veteran]

does anyone know if Microsoft have actually acknowledged that this is infact a know issue in Vista?

[Popcorned1]

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TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts.

As far as I know, this means you need to apply the TCP patch that was introduced for Windows XP

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