PS3 avc high profile playback


Recommended Posts

It turns out it really does enable AVC High profile playback, as opposed to before where that didn't work. Prior to this update, I thought the PS3's problem with AVC was the lack of support for "level 5.1". But it was the high profile.

AVC has "profiles" and every profile has levels. There are like four different high profiles according to the wikipedia, but only one is referred to as "High". More info can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264

Anyway, most MKV files out there, use either High profile or Main profile at level 5.1. Now, the MKV container is not a standard, but it's popular because it supports a wide range of formats, specially AC3, which people seem to love. The iso mp4 container doesn't support AC3. It usually uses AAC but I guess it supports MP3 too.

If you have a high def (720p and up) video encoded in AVC, in an MKV container, a PS3 and a HDTV, you may want to watch that video in the PS3 in all its glory someday.

All I've said is nothing we didn't already know. Anyway, prior to the release of FW 1.82, the playback of High profile avc videos was only limited to BD and AVCHD video format. Now, you can play high profile from MP4 files too, with certain limitations. This means that it is possible to re-multiplex (get the streams from the MKV file and "put them" in an MP4 container) those files to watch them on the PS3.

The procedure is simple:

- Demux the MKV into different tracks: the AVC video stream and the audio stream.

- If the audio stream is encoded in AC3, recode (you can use an open source tool for this, faac) it to AAC. I think that the ps3 won't support the file if the bitrate of the audio track is above 160 kbps.

- Now you have two streams, the AVC video stream and the AAC audio stream.

- You can multiplex these files into an mp4 container using MP4Box.

If the stream was originally Main/High profile at level 5.1, the PS3 WILL REFUSE to play the file (reporting "unsupported data"). This is because even though it supports up to the highest profile, it won't play files that are marked as level 5.1, no matter what profile we're using.

That said, there's a chance that marking the video stream as level 4.1 or 4.2 will solve all of our problems. At least, it is assured that the ps3 will try to play it, lol. No more "Unsupported data" or "corrupted data".

I'm still not sure WHY this is possible. Technically, the level is just a 'label' based on factors such as macroblocks and such things (I dont even know what those are). Higher levels "include" the lower levels. So you can have a level 4.1 file, and mark it as level 5.1. But a file that doesn't meet the level 4.1 conditions but does meet the level 5.1 ones, changing it to level 5.1 may cause errors in the playback.

So my theory is that most files "out there" wrongly mark the files as highest level (5.1).

To change the level, you can hex edit the .h264 stream, or use a tool called "h264info" which allows you to do this by just typing what level you want. This is done by changing some bytes in the file, it doesn't "touch" the video data. Technically, these tools are going to be improved to detect the "lowest possible level" the file can be marked as.

Anyway, to sum up

- Get the separate streams, the .h264 video stream and the audio stream.

- Recode the audio stream to AAC (<160kbps) if neccesary.

- Change the level of the video stream to 4.1 or 4.2, using h264info or modifying the file using a hex editing program.

- Remux them with mp4box, be careful with the FPS (wrong FPS may cause the audio to be out of synch)

- Play the mp4 in the ps3.

Possible problems:

- The audio plays, but there's a black image: I still haven't figured this one out, but it happens with files that are 1080p

- The audio plays, but the image is full of errors (green blocks, etc). I think this means that the file is irremediably level 5.1. Try level 4.2, just in case :p

That's all

-----------

Well , these arent "my" discoveries. I found out that RedKawa (ps3 video 9) was using the "hex hack" to remux MKV files that were encoded in main profile, now it's just the same, but on high profile too. I guess a new version is to be expected :D

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571395-ps3-avc-high-profile-playback/
Share on other sites

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Microsoft is busy. Lots of changes to be released imminently for Windows server or soon. Also, lots happening for next version as well. Third party virus scanning software is being moved out of Kernel mode to avoid repeat of Crowdstrike incident. Windows Protected Mode and Windows Ready Print no longer require third party print drivers to be installed. New storage stack being developed. New NVME drivers now available for Windows Server 2025 to improve local NVME drive performance by 60+ percent. NVME-Of of fabric being worked on for next release to improve network access to NVME drives. ReFs (next file system) now has ability to boot and will become default file system in next release of Windows Server. ReFs improves on NTFS in several areas including resiliency and reliability and scalability. New update stack is being worked on to unify Windows updates, and updates for drivers and first party/3rd party application software. A stricter and more robust third-party driver certification program (ODI) is being worked on to improve performance, thermals, battery life, and reliability on modern Windows hardware by tightening how OEMs and IHVs (Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, NVIDIA, etc.) build and ship drivers. There is a tone more but too numerous to mention.
    • Now disable that stupid OneDrive backup request when Windows starts please. So unbelievably frustrating to only have “remind me later” instead of “no and never ask me again”
    • Hello, The Media Creation Tool is still at v10.0.26100.7019 from October 2025. Just looks like the backend has been updated. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky
    • Since they open sourced the calculator in Win 10/11 it is much better and can do a lot, I love it.
    • That's just silly imo. The lengths that man goes to just to avoid W11 is just nuts. Very, very few home users would do that. I will say this though, he is committed. Btw, I note on askwoody that Woody Leonhard passed away March, 2025 aged 73. His site was one of my favorites back in the day. Belated yes but RIP Woody.
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      Markus94287 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Markus94287 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      Markus94287 earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Dedicated
      truespursfan earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Rookie
      restore went up a rank
      Rookie
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      508
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      168
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      154
    4. 4
      ATLien_0
      90
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      79
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!