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When you're selling millions of consoles it would make alot of difference.. anyway, you kind of missed what my point was, why bring the 360 into this?

Simply because some people insist on babbling about sony's lies etc etc. It's all flamebait and unnecessary. But nothing will be done about it.

This thread is about a potential new controller with rumble. Yes sony said it wasn't possible because of the motion sensing and yes we know that's a load of crap. But we knew that ages ago, so get over it and go back to the Microsoft forum if you have nothing better to do than to find fault in sony's every move.

Pot, kettle, black? You have your fair share of comments in the MS forum.

On topic, the rumble is coming obviously, but is it really that big of a deal? Making such a big deal out of a video, along with that picture of the "grey" 360 is really ridiculous imo.

Looking forward to the PR

^ Umm... still doesn't justify lying....

Oh boo hoo. Out of the many lies Sony has pulled off you can't really drag Phil Harrison over the coals for this one. It's called PR Speak. The guy was doing his job.

You don't ever see anyone at Microsoft saying "You know, we actually did a **** poor job on the 360 in retrospect, I mean, with all of those crashes and all...".

Get over it, man.

Oh boo hoo. Out of the many lies Sony has pulled off you can't really drag Phil Harrison over the coals for this one. It's called PR Speak. The guy was doing his job.

You don't ever see anyone at Microsoft saying "You know, we actually did a **** poor job on the 360 in retrospect, I mean, with all of those crashes and all...".

Get over it, man.

Actually, you do see that. Read.

gg, man, gg. :p

Dunno why we have M$ boys in the Sony forums bashing the PS3 and Sony boys bashing the 360, there must be some reason why we have individual forums for each console? :woot:

PS3 FTW! :D

Everyone has the right to post and read whatever forum they like. Just because a member doesn't own/like the console in that section doesn't mean they can't be part of the discussion

:laugh: That's the first time I see that quote from Harrison!! "What did you expect me to say"! How about "We decided to only include motion because we thought it better than rumble." There are a million things you could've said without outright lying to your customers. No, let's go with "It's IMPOSSIBLE, there's no possible way in this universe that they could work together." And now it's: mea culpa, I lied :blush: Tee hee. But, hey, everything I'm saying now is the honest truth. I learned my lesson. Honest. :rolleyes:

People are so hung up on this quote? Surely it's no where near as bad as lying numerous times that your console doesn't have any design faults and saying no big problems exist. ;-)

Not like he was going to say "Sorry folks, I really wanted rumble to be there, but we don't want to pay millions of dollars to get it".

Just because a member doesn't own/like the console in that section doesn't mean they can't be part of the discussion

Agree 50%. If they don't own the product but want to discuss it, no problems at all. But if they actually don't like or never liked the product, why are they bothering posting about it?

Agree 50%. If they don't own the product but want to discuss it, no problems at all. But if they actually don't like or never liked the product, why are they bothering posting about it?

Because if everyone liked it, the discussion would be very boring, so it's good to be critical too

Because if everyone liked it, the discussion would be very boring, so it's good to be critical too

You can still like a product and be critical. But some people just won't like certain things no matter what. Say someone who doesn't own a 360 and doesn't like Microsoft, went into a Halo 3 thread and started saying the game looks crap. That would just be trolling, since the person never liked it in the first place. Adds nothing to the discussion. If you have interest in the product, then the way I see it you can be as critical as you want. But if you have absolutely no interest in the first place, I would see that as trolling. So those are kinda two different things.

You can still like a product and be critical. But some people just won't like certain things no matter what. Say someone who doesn't own a 360 and doesn't like Microsoft, went into a Halo 3 thread and started saying the game looks crap. That would just be trolling, since the person never liked it in the first place. Adds nothing to the discussion. If you have interest in the product, then the way I see it you can be as critical as you want. But if you have absolutely no interest in the first place, I would see that as trolling. So those are kinda two different things.

Well yeah but depends on the person and how they go about expressing their opinion really :p I don't mind hearing why some people don't like a game, as long as they can explain why and not troll for the sake of it.

Anyways this thread is off topic :p

lol now to get back on topic, i saw this on neogaf. you guys decide what it means.

http://immr.client.shareholder.com/Release...eleaseID=253387

Immersion Issues Patent Licenses for Tactile Feedback Video Game Console Peripherals

SAN JOSE, Calif., Jul 11, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Immersion Corporation (Nasdaq:IMMR), a leading developer and licensor of touch feedback technology, today announced that gaming peripheral manufacturers Hori (U.S.A.) and Katana Game Accessories have both entered into patent licenses with Immersion, including rights for advanced vibro-tactile, spinning mass gaming technologies for dedicated portable gaming devices and computer and console video gaming peripherals. Hori develops peripherals and accessories for gaming consoles such as the Sony PlayStation, Microsoft Xbox, and Nintendo products. Katana designs, manufactures, and in September 2007, will begin distributing peripherals for Sony PlayStation products in North America. Under the terms of the license, these products will now bear Immersion's Feel The Game? TouchSense? Technology logo.b>

"All our products are built with the strictest standard of quality," said Yuuki Mizutani, of Hori (U.S.A.). "Rumble technology is one of the key features that makes playing racing and flight simulator games on Hori controllers easier and more realistic."

"As a company that has just entered the console accessory business, Katana is focused on providing very high-quality products to enhance the Sony PlayStation gaming experience," said Katana President Chris McGlynn. "We consider Immersion's technology a key ingredient and look forward to putting it to work for PlayStation gamers."

Well yeah but depends on the person and how they go about expressing their opinion really :p I don't mind hearing why some people don't like a game, as long as they can explain why and not troll for the sake of it.

Anyways this thread is off topic :p

Yeah like I said, if the person is interested, but just doesn't like the product then that's fine. But if they never were interested in the first place and just hate on it because they want to, then I wouldn't be able to take their opinion seriously.

Back to the topic, interesting link Nightz. I wonder if Sony will reveal it at E3.

Nope.

Leipzig

GS UK: You said something really special would be coming for PS3 at this yea'rs Leipzig. Any more you can tell us about that?

DR: ...

GS UK: Is it going to be something on the software side? A download?

DR: None of those.

GS UK: OK. So peripheral-based, perhaps?

DR: Possibly. Possibly a peripheral.

GS UK: Thanks for your time.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6174962.html?...newstop;title;3

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