Recommended Posts

When you're selling millions of consoles it would make alot of difference.. anyway, you kind of missed what my point was, why bring the 360 into this?

Simply because some people insist on babbling about sony's lies etc etc. It's all flamebait and unnecessary. But nothing will be done about it.

This thread is about a potential new controller with rumble. Yes sony said it wasn't possible because of the motion sensing and yes we know that's a load of crap. But we knew that ages ago, so get over it and go back to the Microsoft forum if you have nothing better to do than to find fault in sony's every move.

Pot, kettle, black? You have your fair share of comments in the MS forum.

On topic, the rumble is coming obviously, but is it really that big of a deal? Making such a big deal out of a video, along with that picture of the "grey" 360 is really ridiculous imo.

Looking forward to the PR

^ Umm... still doesn't justify lying....

Oh boo hoo. Out of the many lies Sony has pulled off you can't really drag Phil Harrison over the coals for this one. It's called PR Speak. The guy was doing his job.

You don't ever see anyone at Microsoft saying "You know, we actually did a **** poor job on the 360 in retrospect, I mean, with all of those crashes and all...".

Get over it, man.

Oh boo hoo. Out of the many lies Sony has pulled off you can't really drag Phil Harrison over the coals for this one. It's called PR Speak. The guy was doing his job.

You don't ever see anyone at Microsoft saying "You know, we actually did a **** poor job on the 360 in retrospect, I mean, with all of those crashes and all...".

Get over it, man.

Actually, you do see that. Read.

gg, man, gg. :p

Dunno why we have M$ boys in the Sony forums bashing the PS3 and Sony boys bashing the 360, there must be some reason why we have individual forums for each console? :woot:

PS3 FTW! :D

Everyone has the right to post and read whatever forum they like. Just because a member doesn't own/like the console in that section doesn't mean they can't be part of the discussion

:laugh: That's the first time I see that quote from Harrison!! "What did you expect me to say"! How about "We decided to only include motion because we thought it better than rumble." There are a million things you could've said without outright lying to your customers. No, let's go with "It's IMPOSSIBLE, there's no possible way in this universe that they could work together." And now it's: mea culpa, I lied :blush: Tee hee. But, hey, everything I'm saying now is the honest truth. I learned my lesson. Honest. :rolleyes:

People are so hung up on this quote? Surely it's no where near as bad as lying numerous times that your console doesn't have any design faults and saying no big problems exist. ;-)

Not like he was going to say "Sorry folks, I really wanted rumble to be there, but we don't want to pay millions of dollars to get it".

Just because a member doesn't own/like the console in that section doesn't mean they can't be part of the discussion

Agree 50%. If they don't own the product but want to discuss it, no problems at all. But if they actually don't like or never liked the product, why are they bothering posting about it?

Agree 50%. If they don't own the product but want to discuss it, no problems at all. But if they actually don't like or never liked the product, why are they bothering posting about it?

Because if everyone liked it, the discussion would be very boring, so it's good to be critical too

Because if everyone liked it, the discussion would be very boring, so it's good to be critical too

You can still like a product and be critical. But some people just won't like certain things no matter what. Say someone who doesn't own a 360 and doesn't like Microsoft, went into a Halo 3 thread and started saying the game looks crap. That would just be trolling, since the person never liked it in the first place. Adds nothing to the discussion. If you have interest in the product, then the way I see it you can be as critical as you want. But if you have absolutely no interest in the first place, I would see that as trolling. So those are kinda two different things.

You can still like a product and be critical. But some people just won't like certain things no matter what. Say someone who doesn't own a 360 and doesn't like Microsoft, went into a Halo 3 thread and started saying the game looks crap. That would just be trolling, since the person never liked it in the first place. Adds nothing to the discussion. If you have interest in the product, then the way I see it you can be as critical as you want. But if you have absolutely no interest in the first place, I would see that as trolling. So those are kinda two different things.

Well yeah but depends on the person and how they go about expressing their opinion really :p I don't mind hearing why some people don't like a game, as long as they can explain why and not troll for the sake of it.

Anyways this thread is off topic :p

lol now to get back on topic, i saw this on neogaf. you guys decide what it means.

http://immr.client.shareholder.com/Release...eleaseID=253387

Immersion Issues Patent Licenses for Tactile Feedback Video Game Console Peripherals

SAN JOSE, Calif., Jul 11, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Immersion Corporation (Nasdaq:IMMR), a leading developer and licensor of touch feedback technology, today announced that gaming peripheral manufacturers Hori (U.S.A.) and Katana Game Accessories have both entered into patent licenses with Immersion, including rights for advanced vibro-tactile, spinning mass gaming technologies for dedicated portable gaming devices and computer and console video gaming peripherals. Hori develops peripherals and accessories for gaming consoles such as the Sony PlayStation, Microsoft Xbox, and Nintendo products. Katana designs, manufactures, and in September 2007, will begin distributing peripherals for Sony PlayStation products in North America. Under the terms of the license, these products will now bear Immersion's Feel The Game? TouchSense? Technology logo.b>

"All our products are built with the strictest standard of quality," said Yuuki Mizutani, of Hori (U.S.A.). "Rumble technology is one of the key features that makes playing racing and flight simulator games on Hori controllers easier and more realistic."

"As a company that has just entered the console accessory business, Katana is focused on providing very high-quality products to enhance the Sony PlayStation gaming experience," said Katana President Chris McGlynn. "We consider Immersion's technology a key ingredient and look forward to putting it to work for PlayStation gamers."

Well yeah but depends on the person and how they go about expressing their opinion really :p I don't mind hearing why some people don't like a game, as long as they can explain why and not troll for the sake of it.

Anyways this thread is off topic :p

Yeah like I said, if the person is interested, but just doesn't like the product then that's fine. But if they never were interested in the first place and just hate on it because they want to, then I wouldn't be able to take their opinion seriously.

Back to the topic, interesting link Nightz. I wonder if Sony will reveal it at E3.

Nope.

Leipzig

GS UK: You said something really special would be coming for PS3 at this yea'rs Leipzig. Any more you can tell us about that?

DR: ...

GS UK: Is it going to be something on the software side? A download?

DR: None of those.

GS UK: OK. So peripheral-based, perhaps?

DR: Possibly. Possibly a peripheral.

GS UK: Thanks for your time.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6174962.html?...newstop;title;3

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Xbox Insiders get Xbox 360 achievements and Gamertag character upgrades by Pulasthi Ariyasinghe Microsoft is continuing its fast-paced update schedule for Xbox Insiders. Today, the company announced a new slate of features it is rolling out to Xbox Insiders in the Alpha Skip-Ahead ring, which includes an expansion to the gamertag system, Xbox 360 achievements, and more. The unique Gamertag that Xbox users can choose for their profile is getting more characters. Instead of the 12-character limit, Insiders will now be able to get a Gamertag that's 15 characters long. The 12-character limit will still apply to Gamertags that are not unique or contain any non-Latin characters. Meanwhile, Microsoft is adding Xbox 360 game support to its Game Hubs. Selecting an installed Xbox 360 game on a modern Xbox console will now show achievement progress, captures, and other information. Achievement pop-ups are back for these classics too, which should be good news for achievement hunters. The next change is for Xbox players who can't wait to jump into their games when an update is required. "If a game requires an update and is available to stream through your Game Pass membership, you can start playing immediately with cloud gaming while the update downloads in the background," explains Microsoft. The final change of this Insider update is once again to the game cards. Insiders will find that all games, both released and upcoming, will now have a simple button to add to their profile's wishlist, making the process much easier from a single place. This Xbox update is rolling out today to Insiders in the Alpha Skip-Ahead ring. As usual, Microsoft aims to bring it to more Insiders over time before they reach all Xbox owners. Head here to find out how to join the Xbox Insider Program to get a chance to test these features and upcoming ones on both consoles and PC.
    • In the boot options in the UEFI is set to legacy or CMS? It needs to be set to UEFI if it's not already.
    • Researchers claim Microsoft's quantum breakthrough is flawed by basic Python errors by Karthik Mudaliar Microsoft's aggressive roadmap to deliver a commercial quantum supercomputer by 2029 has now hit a bit of a snag, and it's not because of a complex sub-zero dilution refrigerator, but rather because of a few lines of basic Python code. A new critique published in the scientific journal Nature argues that simple software errors effectively manufactured the breakthrough that Microsoft's foundational research claimed back in 2025 into Majorana-based topological qubits. Topological quantum computing, the path that Microsoft chose for its research, relies on creating and controlling "Majorana zero modes." These are exotic quasiparticles that theoretically offer vastly superior error resistance compared to the highly sensitive superconducting qubits currently being championed by rivals like Google and IBM. However, physically proving you have created these particles requires sifting through massive amounts of complex electrical conductance data to isolate a specific "topological gap." Because of the sheer volume of data, physicists rely heavily on custom software pipelines to process the results. This is where the Python scripts come in. Now, according to the critique, Microsoft’s data processing software contained fundamental programming errors that ultimately skewed the published results. By mishandling data arrays or deploying incorrect logic within the Python script, the software supposedly discarded "noisy" or contradictory data. Which is why it only highlighted the specific electrical measurements that supported the topological-gap claim. The researchers behind the critique argued that this makes the findings invalid, suggesting the heralded "quantum leap" was actually a false positive generated by bad code and not a product of groundbreaking physics. However, Microsoft is pushing back hard against these allegations. The Redmond giant has formally rejected the criticism, saying that it's just a minor anomaly rather than a fatal flaw. According to the company, while there may have been a minor oversight in the data parsing scripts, it does not alter the fundamental reality of their physical experiment. Just weeks ago, Microsoft unveiled the Majorana 2 quantum processor, a milestone so significant that the company boldly accelerated its timeline for a commercial quantum supercomputer from 2035 down to 2029. But the new software allegations reopen an old wound. Microsoft's quantum division faced a remarkably similar crisis when a landmark 2018 paper on Majorana particles was famously retracted in 2021 after independent physicists discovered the data had been inappropriately cropped. That historical baggage makes the current Python-related allegations particularly sensitive. If the foundational math and data processing for the 2025 breakthrough are genuinely flawed, the highly anticipated 2029 commercial timeline could easily be delayed or, worse, cancelled.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Dedicated
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • First Post
      Tom Schmidt earned a badge
      First Post
    • One Month Later
      D0nn13 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Rookie
      +ChiefOfNeo went up a rank
      Rookie
    • One Year In
      Tom Schmidt earned a badge
      One Year In
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      467
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      177
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      123
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      82
    5. 5
      Xenon
      76
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!