Detecting already installed updates?

[Ketrel]

Say I have a computer which has already used Windows update to get some of the updates available.

When I ran Autopatcher is didn't seem to detect that some were already installed. Is there any way to make it do so, or if not, what would happen if you tried to install everything with autopatcher?

[supermouse]

ap 5.6 now detect already installed updates by the .cat files, that exist at C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}. some updates still are detected by registry, but those are just a few. also those updates are detected by the md5 of those files, if they change in any way, ap, will detect it also an outdated update (by example, there's quite a few updates that have v2, v3, v5, etc. if you have v1 and ap has v5. ap will not show that update that you already have also installed.

if you install again any update, it will not damage your system, but if certain powertoys are selected to install, you may get some sort of error, like "the file already exists", but just that

[Ketrel]

Is the torrent download the 5.6 one? If not, how would I get that to check.

When I just ran it on a fully up to date XP SP2, it showed all of the updates still. I downloaded this one last night via the torrent.

[supermouse]

well, you may very well download things that have several years on the net. at this topic, you may found may CORE, that should be updated with june update and then with july update. after you have all, then you may install (just don't run AP, just let it install, update all, then run AP). but a good hint to know what version you have is take a look at the release name. since i can remmember, there's an month and a year in there.

[]s and good luck

[Ketrel]

  supermouse said:

well, you may very well download things that have several years on the net. at this topic, you may found may CORE, that should be updated with june update and then with july update. after you have all, then you may install (just don't run AP, just let it install, update all, then run AP). but a good hint to know what version you have is take a look at the release name. since i can remmember, there's an month and a year in there.

[]s and good luck

I downloaded the core from the links there. It's identical to the one I got from bittorrent.

I still don't understand why all of the updates I already have installed via Windows update are still listed as uninstalled by autopatcher.

[PsiMoon314]

Hi,

You might like to check your system with a tool such as QFECHECK to ensure that the hotfixes really are applied correctly.

I have come across a number of PC's where some or all of the hotfixes have not installed correctly.

This may indicate a more serious issue with the OS such as corrupted registry or the store file which records which hotfixes have been installed.

QFECHECK can be found here:

http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details...;displaylang=en

If this shows issues with any of the installed hotfixes then you have to decide how to recover the system or fix the broken hotfix installs.

I would suggest that you first check the PC for Hard Drive or RAM faults using tools such as Spinrite or Windows Memory Diagnostic.

If these are shown to be working correctly then perhaps you could uninstall one of the faulty hotfixes via Add / Remove Programs and then reinstall it manually. Use QFECHECK to ensure it's really installed correctly.

If the hotfix fails to install repeatedly then it may just not be needed on your system or there is another issue to be resolved. Checking the %WinDir%/<hotfix>.log file for the hotfix in question might show something useful.

If all else fails then you could use Dial-a-fix to see if there are any issues with the OS or with Windows Update and the Software Distribution system that need to be resolved.

Kind Regards

Simon

[Ketrel]

I downloaded the tool you linked from microsoft, and it doesn't report any problems when I ran it. Everything says "Current on System"

[kerupuk]

hello, i'm at lost here

i've just installed the may core (for xp), and run the program. but when i go to the microsoft windows update sites, they tell me to install updates that already in my computers.

i checked and double checked (guess that make it triple checked then :) ), but the updates they're asking are already in my computer, the autopatcher program listed them as blue (as i recall, it means it is already installed)

has anyone encounter this problem? if there is already a solution please somebody give me the link to it?

thank you for your help

ps: sorry for my english

[Guest adaman02]

  kerupuk said:

hello, i'm at lost here

i've just installed the may core (for xp), and run the program. but when i go to the microsoft windows update sites, they tell me to install updates that already in my computers.

i checked and double checked (guess that make it triple checked then :) ), but the updates they're asking are already in my computer, the autopatcher program listed them as blue (as i recall, it means it is already installed)

has anyone encounter this problem? if there is already a solution please somebody give me the link to it?

thank you for your help

ps: sorry for my english

You will probably need to update from windows update. Some old updates can, if installed after newer updates, undo the update by installing an old file over a newer one (even though it shouldn't do this).

Have also had the problem where autopatcher would detect a patch as installed when it is not too. It was because an uninstaller didn't delete a file the file that autopatcher uses to detect whether or not it is installed or not.

long story short my recommendation is to run windows update on the systems and let it update what it needs to update.

Hope this helps

[kimsland]

I agree with adaman02.

Use AutoPatcher to fully update your system offline.

Then go to Windows Updates to all the rest (or wait until the next AutoPatcher update comes out - I'm hoping for full, too many updates on updates I reakon)

Kim