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PartitionMagic like program for Windows Vista

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Very curious on what your wanting to do, that is not supported by the built in disk manager? Shoot you can even shink the sytem partition now.

What options do you feel are missing that would require a 3rd party tool?

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  BudMan said:
Very curious on what your wanting to do, that is not supported by the built in disk manager? Shoot you can even shink the sytem partition now.

What options do you feel are missing that would require a 3rd party tool?

3rd party is better.

There is a FAT32 limitation.

The thread isnt about why I should or shouldnt replace the disk manager in Vista. I just want a alternative.

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  S7un7 said:
Yes

then thats not a "ParititionMagic like program for Windows Vista"

I want a application. No LiveCD, nor "use Linux!1!!one" nor "OSX is beautiful" comments please.

I need a application that runs on Windows Vista that is similar to PartitionMagic. Thats all Im asking and looking for. No alternatives. Thanks :)

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  E6400C2D2007 said:
then thats not a "ParititionMagic like program for Windows Vista"

I want a application. No LiveCD, nor "use Linux!1!!one" nor "OSX is beautiful" comments please.

I need a application that runs on Windows Vista that is similar to PartitionMagic. Thats all Im asking and looking for. No alternatives. Thanks :)

I don't know if this is your first time on a forum or not. But you can't expect people to 'guess' what you are looking for, that is why people are asking you questions. Depending on who you ask GParted IS 'like' Partition Magic.

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I'll bet there are many others here like me who jumped in here to help, then saw how the OP treated people who didn't read his mind.

Just letting you know that you should be helping us help you, and drop the attitude. It will get you a lot further on Neowin and in life.

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BudMan is a person I can vouch for personally as he has helped me out in the past (thanks again BudMan), he knows what he is talking about, so what are you trying to do exactly?, the newest disc manager version built into vista is very powerful and should cover all your needs.

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  markjensen said:
I'll bet there are many others here like me who jumped in here to help, then saw how the OP treated people who didn't read his mind.

Just letting you know that you should be helping us help you, and drop the attitude. It will get you a lot further on Neowin and in life.

seriously. drop the attitude and just make a grocery list of what you want in features.

and it doesn't matter if GParted is a live cd or not. you just pop it in your cd-rom and it works. you don't need to install or "switch 2 Linux!1!!one" to use it

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  markjensen said:
Just letting you know that you should be helping us help you, and drop the attitude. It will get you a lot further on Neowin and in life.

Ever hear the saying nice guys finish last?

Besides, I did not show a attitude. I simply stated that I do not wish to use a LiveCD. I want something similar to PartitionMagic which I LiveCD is not

  BeLGaRaTh said:
BudMan is a person I can vouch for personally as he has helped me out in the past (thanks again BudMan), he knows what he is talking about, so what are you trying to do exactly?, the newest disc manager version built into vista is very powerful and should cover all your needs.

The disc manager in Vista (for example, it has other flaws) has limitations on the partition size of FAT32.

  PermaSt0ne said:
seriously. drop the attitude and just make a grocery list of what you want in features.

and it doesn't matter if GParted is a live cd or not. you just pop it in your cd-rom and it works. you don't need to install or "switch 2 Linux!1!!one" to use it

I prefer to install it and do other things while I partition my HDD.

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Thank you:)) This is all I want. Software.

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  BudMan said:
Very curious on what your wanting to do, that is not supported by the built in disk manager? Shoot you can even shink the sytem partition now.

What options do you feel are missing that would require a 3rd party tool?

As far as I know, Windows Vista Disk Management cannot increase the size of a partition without changing the disk from basic to dynamic.

  E6400C2D2007 said:
Ever hear the saying nice guys finish last?

Sure, and it's untrue for a number of reasons:

- Nice guys finish last because bad guys die first.

- When nice guys finish, they still have their friends.

- Most girls prefer guys who do not 'finish' early.

If there were no evolutionary advantage to being nice, then altruism would not be a naturally occurring behaviour in most animals. Also, as game theory shows, the collective reward of one using a ###### for tat strategy far outweighs the reward gained by one who is 'out for himself'.

And it won't get you very far on Neowin either.

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  Lt-DavidW said:
As far as I know, Windows Vista Disk Management cannot increase the size of a partition without changing the disk from basic to dynamic.

Well this limitation does not affect me but thanks for pointing it out

  Lt-DavidW said:
Sure, and it's untrue for a number of reasons:

- Nice guys finish last because bad guys die first.

- When nice guys finish, they still have their friends.

- Most girls prefer guys who do not 'finish' early.

This is totally offtopic but

- Not true. A bad guy pulls the trigger before a good guy so good guy would die first

- Bad guy still have connects which are better than friends because in reality there are no 100% friends; You can count them with half of the finger on your hand. Remember: Enemies stay the same, friends always change.

- Most? I think you are incorrect. Nice guys usually then up with the worse.

Lt-DavidW, this is totally irrelevent to the thread. If you want to continue, PM me :) But lets not make this into some social conversation just because of a simple line I said.

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  Lt-DavidW said:
As far as I know, Windows Vista Disk Management cannot increase the size of a partition without changing the disk from basic to dynamic.
An where did you pickup that little tidbit of FUD? Please if you do not know something for sure, don't spread it around -- it just confuses people that don't know any better. More than likely the OP will repeat it somewhere down the line

"Well this limitation does not affect me but thanks for pointing it out"

Which is how FUD gets started! Just to show that its nonsense -- here;

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As you can see - even after extending it, its still basic - not a dynamic volume.

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Basic storage involves dividing a disk into primary and extended partitions.[1] This is the way that all versions of Windows that were reliant on DOS handled storage, and disks formatted in this manner are known as basic disks. Dynamic storage involves the use of a single partition that covers the entire disk, and the disk itself is divided into volumes or combined with other disks to form volumes that are greater in size than one disk itself. Volumes can use any supported file system.

Basic disks can be upgraded to dynamic disks, however when this is done the disk cannot easily be downgraded to a basic disk again. To perform a downgrade, data on the dynamic disk must first be backed up onto some other storage device. Second, the dynamic disk must be re-formatted as a basic disk (erasing all data). Finally, data from the backup must be copied back over to the newly re-formatted basic disk.

Dynamic disks provide the capability for software implementations of RAID. The main disadvantage of dynamic disks in Microsoft Windows is that they can only be recognized under certain operating systems, such as Windows 2000 or later (except for Vista Home [1]), or the Linux kernel starting with version 2.4.8.

Dynamic disks under Windows are provided with the use of databases stored on disk(s). The volumes are referred to as dynamic volumes. It is possible to have 2000 dynamic volumes per dynamic disk, but the maximum recommended by Microsoft is 32.

From Wikipedia, maybe he got confused. Give him a break :)

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