2007-2008 Writers Guild of America strike


2007 Hollywood Strike  

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  1. 1. Who do you support in the strike?

    • The AMPTP
      35
    • The WGA
      140
    • Undecided/Don't Care
      107


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I don't understand why all the guilds (actors, directors, whatever else) don't strike at once...they should just bring everything to a standstill. it seems like they all have something to gain from this going through quickly.

People need to start supporting the strike by not supplying the studios with their ad revenue. If nobody is watching, there will be no purpose in paying for the ads to be aired. Get the advertisers on the writers side and I don't see how things couldn't turn around quickly.

support the strike by not watching any form of media that comes from these studios.... or by pirating.. :p

I don't understand why all the guilds (actors, directors, whatever else) don't strike at once...they should just bring everything to a standstill. it seems like they all have something to gain from this going through quickly.

People need to start supporting the strike by not supplying the studios with their ad revenue. If nobody is watching, there will be no purpose in paying for the ads to be aired. Get the advertisers on the writers side and I don't see how things couldn't turn around quickly.

support the strike by not watching any form of media that comes from these studios.... or by pirating.. :p

Well the last weekend I was watching alot of rented dvd's due to no new telly programs so I suppose I was doing bad...:laugh:

I don't understand why all the guilds (actors, directors, whatever else) don't strike at once...they should just bring everything to a standstill. it seems like they all have something to gain from this going through quickly.

Contracts. They could be sued for violating contracts by not fulfilling their duties. The WGA's contracts were up, so they were able to strike without penalty.

THE BIG PICTURE: In the strike, the studios are playing to win

DESPITE what they say about global warming, it's going to be a long, cold winter for the writers of Hollywood. The studios pretty much made it official Friday, when they walked away from the negotiating table after giving the Writers Guild an abrupt "put up or shut up" ultimatum. Considering that the studios were asking the writers to give up much of their core Internet residuals proposal, there was little left to negotiate.

The studios' message was obvious: They're going to play hardball. Believing they have comparatively little to lose by letting the strike drag on, the studios will try to weaken the guild by letting writers spend Christmas out of work while studio operatives sow seeds of discord among the membership, hoping to persuade some high-profile writers to cross the line and go back to work.

This puts all of Hollywood on the road to perdition. That still leaves the real unanswered question: Why have the studios walked away from the negotiating table? Although it seemed hard to believe at first, the evidence is overwhelming that they never had any serious intention of making a fair deal, at least the kind of deal that, as Lew Wasserman might have put it, would've allowed both sides to come away declaring victory. There is clearly a powerful studio faction that believes that giving residuals to the writers was a fundamental mistake. Since it's impossible to put that genie back into the bottle -- not that the studios didn't try -- the next best thing would be to put a tight lid on any new media revenue streams, since they will someday become the studio's biggest new source of profit.

The studios' behavior appears shortsighted unless you look at the negotiations in a broader light. While attention is focused on the writers strike, a bigger confrontation looms down the road. No one expects that the studios will have much of a problem settling with the Directors Guild of America, whose contract is up June 30, 2008. But the Screen Actors Guild, whose contract is also up that day, is another matter.

The largest union, with 120,000 members, SAG also has a relatively new president, Alan Rosenberg, who came to power after promising a much more aggressive stance about new media revenues. For the first time, SAG also brought in an outsider, former NFL Players Assn. executive Doug Allen, to be its executive director, another sign that the guild is preparing for a hard-nosed negotiation.

The studios don't want to make any concessions to the Writers Guild of America that would set a precedent for the SAG negotiations. In fact, many insiders believe the studios are trying to crush the writers as a way of signaling to SAG members that they can expect similar treatment if they don't soften their negotiating stance.

The studios have little to lose by stonewalling, since it's all too clear that they can win any prolonged strike. Their pockets are too deep, their weaponry too strong. But at what cost? Even many studio supporters admit that squashing the WGA after a prolonged strike would be something of a pyrrhic victory. If network TV turns into a 24-hour reality TV and game show channel, it will simply accelerate the trend of young viewers deserting the tube for the Internet.

For the writers, their best defense now is a good offense. As I've argued before, their future lies in becoming more entrepreneurial. This would also be good strategy for future strike negotiations. With the studios stuck churning out reality sludge, the barriers for entry for an outsider are lower than ever. What's to stop Google, Yahoo or Mark Cuban from striking a deal with a top TV show runner who has a proven ability to create characters and stories that would bring eyeballs to the Internet?

I suspect the guild is already in the process of setting up interim deals that would allow writers to work with companies not represented by the studios. It would be a way to show the WGA rank and file that other opportunities exist outside of the traditional studio model while sending a message to the other side that, when it comes to negotiating, the guild has other arrows in its quiver.

And speaking of arrows, the studios last week hired Mark Fabiani and Chris Lehane, former aides and advisors to Bill Clinton and Al Gore with reputations for canny damage control and bare-knuckled attacks on political adversaries.

It is widely believed that the new consultants had a hand in a recent studio proposal designed to portray the studios as willing negotiators. Although it offered precious few concessions, it was labeled a "new economic partnership," which brings to mind the time the Bush administration described a pro-logging proposal as a "healthy forests initiative." Nonetheless, the studios flogged it as a big step forward, claiming it would increase the average working writer's salary to $230,000 a year.

The proposal doesn't mention anything about the average nonworking writer, who, as it happens, is on strike too. If you include all writers, the plump $230,000 figure ends up being roughly a quarter of that. The new consultants also clearly had a hand in the studios' Friday statement about the collapse of the talks, a statement that many in the guild leadership view as a "red-baiting" style campaign designed to divide the guild -- and chip away at its public support -- by branding the leadership as radicals.

It's a fascinating statement, not for what it says, but for the language it uses, which would bring a blush even to the face of wily GOP rhetorician Frank Luntz, the man the WGA should hire if it really wants to win a PR battle with the studios. A new word that pops up in the document is "ideology," as in "the WGA organizers are on an ideological mission far removed from the interests of their members."

The document also criticizes the guild's "radical demands" and repeatedly refers to the WGA leadership not as negotiators but as "organizers," another sign that the studios are attempting to brand them as militant apparatchiks. That would be in keeping with the traditional tactics of the studio's new hired guns, it being Lehane, who, as Gore's campaign spokesman, once compared a Florida secretary of state to a "Soviet commissar" during the 2000 election uproar.

The statement also charges that guild leaders have "never concluded one industry accord," implying that they are clueless outside agitators. It has a nice ring to it until you realize that the single most successful labor negotiator of modern times, baseball players union leader Marvin Miller, had never done a baseball deal either when he came to the game. He'd been an economist with the United Steelworkers.

From where I sit, it was telling that the labor talks collapsed just days after the Baseball Hall of Fame revisited its own divisive labor history, electing former Commissioner Bowie Kuhn, a die-hard opponent of free agency, while once again overlooking Miller.

Like today's studio bosses, Kuhn had become so beholden to the old rules of the game that he was paralyzed by a fear of the future, convinced that allowing players to become free agents would destroy the sport. Of course, he was wrong. Baseball franchises are more lucrative than ever. But that distrust of the future is at the core of this labor dispute too. The studios have assembled a comfortable business model, one so comfortable that they are loathe to tinker with it.

Kuhn once warned that if the players gained free agency, the game wouldn't survive unless "we find oil under second base." Hollywood is different. In an era when show business is the secular religion of America, there's oil under every studio in town. If the studios aren't willing to share some of that black gold, the writers should do what any good entrepreneur would -- start digging for themselves.

Lower ratings could pinch TV ads

Are advertisers the next to be shut out in the writers strike?

With the strike expected to extend into the new year, broadcasters are beginning to feel pressure from advertisers that are worried about lower ratings after the networks run out of fresh episodes of popular scripted shows.

The writers strike has come amid an already disappointing season, particularly for NBC, CBS and ABC, whose prime-time ratings are down compared with last season. NBC's prime-time ratings in the key advertising category of viewers aged 18 to 49 are down 11% compared with last season; CBS is down 10% and ABC is off 5%.

January and February, when fresh episodes will run out, could be even worse.

"There's a lot of uncertainty all coming together at once," said Brad Adgate, research director for ad firm Horizon Media.

For starters, there has been no breakout hit this season. Also, the networks changed the way they sold advertising time, resulting in slightly lower ratings for which they now have to compensate advertisers. Finally, the strike has halted production, forcing the networks into reruns and reality shows.

The strike is "another setback in a series of setbacks for the networks," Adgate said.

ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and the CW network sold $9.3 billion in prime-time ads for this season. In the process, they sold about 80% of their time, holding back some to give advertisers should ratings fall short of guarantees. The remainder is sold later.

Although the decision to sell such a large percentage of their commercial time earlier in the year appeared to be a smart decision, it could come back to haunt the networks if their program schedules unravel.

"There is a great deal of concern about what the schedules are going to look like in 2008," said Harry Keeshan, an executive vice president of PHD USA, an ad agency whose clients include Jeep and Charles Schwab. "When we get into the first quarter of next year, that's when it will start to bubble up."

Analyst estimates about the financial effect on the networks vary, ranging from $300 million to $600 million in lost advertising, if the strike continues for several more months. Although those figures sound high, executives say the damage might not be severe. Lower-cost substitute programming might mitigate -- at least in the near term -- financial pain, they say.

"We are certainly not going to go dark," Leslie Moonves, chief executive of CBS Corp., told investors last week at a conference. "Ratings probably will not be as high without the influx of our great original programming. But, by the same token, costs will be down considerably."

Nonetheless, the lower cost might come with a price. Network audiences fell about 10% during the 1988 writers strike when disaffected network TV viewers switched to cable channels to sample new shows. Indeed, the influx of viewers helped to put such cable channels as TNT and CNBC on the map, further splintering the audience.

This time the Internet could be a big winner. And where viewers go, ad dollars follow.

"We believe that with each day the strike persists, broadcast programming's hold on viewers, and potentially advertisers, is weakening," said Douglas Anmuth in a Lehman Bros. research note Friday. "Advertisers could be forced to reallocate ad dollars to other media if broadcast ratings fall short of guarantees made."

When a show's ratings fall short of a guarantee, networks give advertisers "make goods" -- free ad time to make up for the shortfall. And because ratings are down this season, networks have had to use up some of their spare inventory to compensate advertisers for lower ratings. That means they have less time to sell.

That pressure became evident Tuesday when NBC confirmed that it had taken the highly unusual step of returning cash to advertisers to compensate them for prime-time ratings shortfalls from earlier in the year. NBC remitted about $10 million, according to a person familiar with the situation.

"This represents an extremely small portion of NBC's business and accommodates the changing needs of our clients' marketing plans," NBC said.

CBS and ABC also are providing advertisers make-good time, but those networks said they were not returning cash to advertisers. But if the strike continues well into the new year, then some ad buyers are worried that the networks will run out of leftover time to compensate for the lower ratings.

Advertisers such as Procter & Gamble Co., Coca-Cola Co. and American Express Co. say they have not altered their plans.

Not yet anyway. Hollywood's labor issues "get people thinking about other media, which frankly is what we should be doing anyway," said Rob Schwartz of ad firm TBWA/Chiat/Day.

Writers union feeling the heat

The Writers Guild of America is under new and mounting pressure from its ranks to get back to the bargaining table.

A number of union members are unhappy that the negotiations with the major Hollywood studios that broke off Friday night were sidetracked by issues secondary to the one the writers see as central: how they will be paid when their work shows up on the Internet.

Six weeks into a costly strike, they're pressing union leaders to get the talks back on track -- and fast -- fearful that the Directors Guild of America might open its own contract negotiations with the Hollywood studios as early as next week.

That could undermine the writers' leverage, because the directors might not make all the demands that the writers have made. The writers don't want another union to set their agenda.

Among the writers urging fresh talks are some of the guild's most powerful members, those responsible for the day-to-day operations of popular TV shows, which are quickly running out of original episodes.

One group of those show runners met with guild officials Tuesday to air their concerns, and another is set to meet with them today. Members of the negotiating committee plan to meet with strikers on the picket lines, hoping to calm fears.

Jeff Hermanson, assistant executive director of the Writers Guild of America, West, said the guild had not received many complaints from members and accused the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers of trying to create the impression that there was a schism.

"This is a democratic organization in which we value the input and opinions of our members," Hermanson said. "When the issues are explained to them, they understand this is a ploy by the AMPTP in an effort to divide us."

For its part, the directors guild has scheduled a meeting tonight at its headquarters on Sunset Boulevard to brief members on the leadership's negotiating strategy. That guild is expected to inform the studios as early as Thursday when it will be ready to begin formal talks, according to one senior studio executive.

The directors, whose contract expires June 30, have historically sealed their deals early. They have been waiting in deference to the striking writers.

Now, with the writers and studios deadlocked, the directors are expected to move forward.

Last week, more than 300 writer-directors, who are caught in the middle as members of both unions, urged leaders of the directors guild to continue holding off until writers could resolve their dispute.

The writers and studios haven't scheduled new talks. The climate seems to be more poisonous than ever.

On Monday, for example, each side accused the other of lying about its respective position and what had triggered last week's impasse.

Friday's breakdown came after the studios made good on their threat to stop talking if the writers didn't take off the table half a dozen issues the studios saw as nonstarters. They included a demand to extend the union's jurisdiction to writers of animated movies and reality TV shows and to include in the contract a so-called sympathy strike measure that would allow writers to honor the picket lines of other unions without fear of reprisals from their employers.

Hermanson noted that the issues the studios demanded be removed from the table included one that was key to the writers' proposal on Internet residuals. He said that the studios negotiated in bad faith and that the writers refused to give in to an ultimatum.

He and guild leaders complained that the studios' "new economic partnership" proposals were only modest improvements over what they originally offered Nov. 4, the day before the walkout.

Studios maintained they made a generous offer, which they valued at about $130 million, a figure disputed by the guild.

"These talks broke down over the WGA's insistence on jurisdictional demands, that everything has to do with expanding the power of the union's organizing and very little has to do with the needs and demands of working writers," said Jesse Hiestand, studio alliance spokesman.

Still, some writers -- including die-hard strike supporters -- are angry at Patric M. Verrone, president of the Writers Guild of America, West, and chief negotiator David Young, saying they allowed the talks to drift into less important issues, according to several guild members, some of whom asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals from the union.

Writer Craig Mazin, a former board member and frequent critic of union leaders, called some of the additional demands, such as jurisdiction over feature animation and reality TV, misguided and not achievable.

"New media is the only thing that matters," Mazin said, who also has been sharply critical of the studios' proposals. "It's what the leadership went on strike for."

Those sentiments are shared by a number of writers, including some on the picket lines, who have complained directly to their union leaders about taking the focus off new media.

"There is a growing group of writers who are burning up over this," said one top writer and strong supporter of the strike who asked not to be identified.

That impression was further fueled by the guild's decision to go ahead with a previously scheduled rally in Burbank on Friday -- the same day the talks broke down -- to call attention to working conditions of writers working on reality TV and game shows.

At the rally, Verrone reminded the crowd that jurisdiction over reality shows was always part of the union's demands. "It will be in our next contract," he said.

On Monday, members of the guild's negotiating committee debated intensely about the timing of the rally and how to respond to the criticism -- and assure members that their focus remained on new-media pay, people who attended the meeting said.

How to get paid for their work that appears on the Internet also is important to the directors, who have been discussing that issue for months with the studios. In contrast to the writers, directors and studios have historically enjoyed a more cordial relationship and far less contentious labor negotiations.

But the directors won't be pushovers when it comes to issues of new-media pay. They have many of the same concerns on that front as writers do.

Nonetheless, they are expected to be more flexible on terms and more sympathetic to studio arguments that Internet-related businesses are still in the formative stages and that there are many uncertainties about where and how soon those future revenues will pour in.

The Directors Guild has spent more than $1 million to study those very questions, hiring two outside firms to prepare a detailed report on new media. The findings will be presented at tonight's meeting.

"Oddly, we've been preparing for this negotiation for well over a year," said Gilbert Cates, chief negotiator for the directors. The alliance is "tough, rough and nervous because they don't know what the future holds. We all want a piece of the Internet; the difference is the tactics that we use to get it."

Award shows brace for strike

Golden Globe noms will be announced Thursday, but this year there's double the suspense: not only who will be nominated, but who will attend.

The Globes, to be telecast Jan. 13 on NBC, has asked for a waiver from the Writers Guild of America in order to allow guild scribes to pen the kudocast's script, but few expect it will be granted.

So will the stars -- both presenters and nominees -- be willing to cross the picket line?

The WGA continued to be mum on the Globes question Tuesday but it has granted a waiver to the Screen Actors Guild's 14th annual awards -- not a completely surprising development, given SAG's strong support for the WGA throughout the six-week strike.

It's a safe bet that all upcoming televised kudocasts -- which include the Critics Choice Awards, the SAG Awards, Independent Spirit Awards and the big kahuna, the Oscars -- will proceed as scheduled, since the networks and the voting orgs have too much invested to cancel them.

SAG, in response to questions, said its interim agreement with the WGA covers a professional union writer for its Jan. 27 show in Los Angeles.

"WGA's support for the Screen Actors Guild and the SAG Awards -- an event that pays tribute to the extraordinary work of actors and highlights the importance of the labor movement in the entertainment industry -- is welcome recognition of the strong bond of solidarity between our two creative guilds," national exec director Doug Allen said. "We're grateful to the WGA for working with us to accomplish this understanding and strongly support their efforts to get a fair contract."

The waiver also means that the SAG Awards, telecast on TBS and TNT, won't be picketed. The WGA previously granted waivers to the Kennedy Center Honors telecast and for Elizabeth Taylor's AIDS benefit at Paramount.

But for the other shows, attendance of nominees in all categories is a question mark; of particular concern to the networks is the presence of star contenders or presenters. Actors have shown solidarity on picket lines, but optimists are hoping that, even without a waiver, kudos shows will warrant a cease-fire, so stars can attend without guilt or censure.

One major producer said, "You've got a guy like George Clooney, who has been outspoken and who has given money to a strike fund. If he gets nominated for 'Michael Clayton,' it's very difficult to imagine him crossing a picket line -- to say nothing of all those television actors who've been photographed walking on picket lines in solidarity with the writers. They can't think it's OK to cross because they're up for an award."

In theory, people in the film and TV business will want to honor their colleagues, but there are questions of priorities: At least one showrunner on a TV series is refusing to even do publicity for his show, since he feels that will bolster the companies that he's striking.

One agent of top stars hopes that, waivers or not, there won't be protests outside awards shows. "What good will the writers accomplish by picketing shows that celebrate their fellow artists? It would be spectacularly unfair to force fellow artists to stay away. Do studios make money from the show? Of course, but so do all the artists. This is a celebration of artists, and it should have nothing to do with politics between the guild and the studios."

A Daily Variety poll showed overwhelming support for the writers. But it's hard to predict the mood by Jan. 13 (the Globes telecast), much less the Feb. 24 Oscarcast.

Of course, most people hope that the strike will be resolved by then. But the rancorous end to the talks on Friday and the ensuing verbal volleys have fueled a fear that the strike could be a long one.

Said one prominent celebrity publicist: "We are all waiting to hear what the guild will do before we figure out what clients should do, but we are hopeful they'll grant the waiver."

The WGA has not weighed in yet on waivers for any shows, but few expect them to promote the work of the studios and networks they are striking. And pickets will provide a chance for their grievances to be aired in red-carpet coverage.

A special case, of course, is the WGA Awards themselves. The Feb. 9 ceremony will not be televised, so, by attending, scribes would not in any way be promoting a network.

The Hollywood Foreign Press Assn. and NBC usually only hire two or three writers for the Globes, which has no host.

But Oscar will have to deal with the added question of Jon Stewart, who has declined to resume his latenight talkshow since the strike began. It's a little early to make decisions yet: Most kudos shows start the writing process after nominations are announced.

The hosts and voiceover talent at awards shows perform as members of the American Federation of Television & Radio Artists.

In 1988, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences was denied a waiver just weeks after the WGA strike started. The Acad enlisted comic performers to write their own material; while there were onstage jokes about the walkout, viewers at home barely noticed any difference in the lineup of nominees and presenters.

In contrast, almost no stars showed up for the 1980 Emmy telecast, which came during the SAG-AFTRA strike. The only winner in attendance was Powers Boothe, who won for his work in the telefilm "Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones."

Kristen Bell is really cute in that first pic :)

Yeah shes certainly become a grade A hottie before she was just known as this girl from Veronica Mars but now shes known for being hot :D

Directors Plan Talks as Writers? Strike Drags Onb>

In a move that could realign Hollywood?s troubled labor front, movie and television directors said Thursday that they were prepared to begin bargaining toward a new master contract with production companies after the New Year?s Day holiday.

An existing contract between the Directors Guild of America, which represents about 13,500 directors and associated production workers, and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, an industry bargaining group, is set to expire June 30.

The new talks are likely to jolt striking screenwriters, who walked out almost six weeks ago after failing to reach a deal of their own with the producers? alliance. Members of the Writers Guild of America West and the Writers Guild of America East had lobbied the directors to stay away from the bargaining table until the writers came to terms with the companies.

But talks between producers and writers collapsed amid mutual accusations of bad faith last Friday, and leaders of the directors? guild, who have often found advantage in settling their deals early, decided they could no longer hold back.

In a letter addressed to members on Thursday, Michael Apted, the president of the directors? guild, said, ?We have decided that the D.G.A. must go forward with our own negotiations.? Even so, he said, the guild would wait until January in order to give the writers and companies ?one last chance to get back to the table.?

Mr. Apted also said that the talks would begin ?only if an appropriate basis for negotiations can be established,? a signal that it did not intend to be marked as an easy bargaining partner.

The directors? union is led by Mr. Apted; by Gilbert Cates, the guild?s secretary-treasurer; and by Jay Roth, its national executive director. It is expected to bring a new point of view to the table on many of the issues dividing the producers and writers.

The directors are being assisted by Kenneth Ziffren, an industry lawyer who is credited with having brokered an end to the five-month writers? strike in 1988. And they come armed with independent research that could offer a fresh approach to compensation for the distribution of movies and shows over the Internet.

The directors? arrival on the scene is sure to send both the producers and the writers scrambling for advantage from the changed situation. Screenwriters may find support for their demands that companies raise their offers for new media compensation. Employers, meanwhile, may hope to strike a deal that will attract some in the writers? guilds to advocate a settlement on similar terms.

The directors? guild has struck only once in its history. In 1987, the directors walked out for three hours on the East Coast and just minutes in the West before settling.

In both 2001 and 2004, the guild reached agreements months before the expiration of existing contracts. Leaders have been eager to get their talks underway again this year, but held back for months to avoid complicating the companies? negotiations with the writers.

In a letter sent by e-mail Wednesday to members of the writers? union, David Young, the executive director of the West Coast writers? guild, urged steadfastness in the face of the companies? insistence that the writers drop their demands for jurisdiction over reality television programs and animated movies and shows, among other things, before the talks can proceed.

Some writers have privately urged their leaders in recent days to narrow their proposals in an attempt to restart negotiations. Counseling otherwise, Mr. Young wrote: ?The negotiating committee is not crazy. The guild is not scared or divided over the principles of this strike.?

No Action: Directors Delay Labor Talks

Hollywood directors said Thursday they will hold off on contract negotiations with studios for now but could start talks after New Year's Day.

The move could put added pressure on striking Hollywood writers to reach a new contract with studios and end their six-week walkout.

In a statement, the Directors Guild of America said it was deeply disappointed by the collapse of talks between the Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers.

The writers strike, which began Nov. 5, has shut down production on dozens of TV shows and started to slow the making of movies for release in 2009.

The directors guild represents about 13,500 directors and associated production workers. Its contract with the alliance is set to expire June 30.

The guild delayed starting its contract talks for two months "out of respect for our sister guild," directors guild President Michael Apted and negotiations chair Gil Cates said in the statement.

"But now the situation is dire. The WGA-AMPTP impasse has cost the jobs of tens of thousands of entertainment industry workers, including many of our own members, and more lose their jobs every day the strike continues," the statement said.

A call to the writers guild and an email sent to the alliance seeking comment were not immediately answered.

Writers file labor charges against studios

A bitter labor dispute intensified today when Hollywood's striking writers filed charges against the studios, alleging they had not bargained in good faith.

In a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board, the union representing 10,500 writers asserted that the studios broke federal law by ending contract negotiations Friday after writers refused to meet their demand to take several proposals off the table.

"It is a clear violation of federal law for the [studios] to issue an ultimatum and break off negotiations if we fail to cave to their illegal demands," the guild said in a statement.

The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents the studios, fired back: "The WGA has now been reduced to pounding the table, and this baseless, desperate NLRB complaint is just the latest indication that the WGA's negotiating strategy has achieved nothing for working writers."

Today's development only exacerbates the hostility between the two sides and could prolong a costly strike, now in its sixth week. The two sides are deeply divided over how writers are paid for their work sold on the Internet.

The development came the same day the Directors Guild of America announced it would begin its negotiations with the studios right after New Year's Day.

Go Writers! :laugh:

Late-night Hosts to Return in January -- Or Not

Top late-night hosts David Letterman, Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien and Craig Ferguson could be back on the air by Jan. 7 or sooner. Or maybe not.

That's the word coming from the trade papers today (Dec. 14). With late-night talk-show ratings halved, and more Americans tuning into to ABC's Nightline rather than "classic" couch chatter, the networks need their hosts to get back behind the mics. And Variety is saying they'll do just that. Mind you, the trade-news bible also says that "absolutely nothing has been agreed upon." And, oh yeah, the parties involved refuse to comment.

So, basically, the only thing anyone can confirm is that if you cross your fingers extra tight and clap your hands if you believe in television, late-night TV will be back in the New Year because "insiders" at NBC and CBS have been whispering about how awesome it would be if the hosts came back to save their shows' behind-in-the-ratings hides.

It would, indeed, be awesome. However, nobody wants to be another Carson Daly. When Daly returned to his late-night desk in November, he became a target for the wrath of the striking WGA. Demonstrations appeared outside his studio, disrupting the taping of at least one episode.

As encouragement to the Big Four, though, some writers have told Variety they would be supportive of the hosts if they decided to go back to work, citing their two months off the job as an admirable gesture to the writers' cause.

Should the hosts be planning a speedy return to the air, NBC's Conan O'Brien and Jay Leno are expected back on the air first, as their shows are suffering the most in the ratings.

Sounds to me like the leaks at NBC & CBS are more like the AMPTP planting stories so people will start watching again :laugh: Or scare the hosts into returning, "Hey that guy might be returning, so maybe I should too."

So when is everything going back to "normal?"

Not for a long time yet, as we said before if the strike ends next week (doubtful due to the holidays) we wouldnt get anything new till March at earliest.

Not for a long time yet, as we said before if the strike ends next week (doubtful due to the holidays) we wouldnt get anything new till March at earliest.

Sadly :( Looks like we'll most likely be waiting 'til the Fall TV Season before new episodes start up. Hopefully we'll get our summer shows back though (i.e. The 4400, Burn Notice, Damages, etc.), but at this point, anyone's guess is as good as the next guys.

Sadly :( Looks like we'll most likely be waiting 'til the Fall TV Season before new episodes start up. Hopefully we'll get our summer shows back though (i.e. The 4400, Burn Notice, Damages, etc.), but at this point, anyone's guess is as good as the next guys.

Well I have been catching up on all the shows I wanted to see for example just started first season of JJ Abrams Felicity.

Not for a long time yet, as we said before if the strike ends next week (doubtful due to the holidays) we wouldnt get anything new till March at earliest.

Until March? That's got to hurt most people who love watching the shows at night. Not that I care since I hate watching TV. :p

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    • TerraMaster F4-425 Pro review: an octa-core Intel NAS that ships with AI (OpenClaw) by Steven Parker It has been a while since I reviewed a TerraMaster NAS, but the company reached out to me asking if I was willing to test the F4-425 Pro, which goes on sale today. It is an upgrade on the F4-425 Plus, which I reviewed back in October 2025 What you need to know is that it basically follows the design principles of the four-bay F4-425 series, with its all-metal exterior. Here are the most important specifications: TerraMaster F4-425 Pro CPU Intel Core N350 (8x E Cores/Threads, Max burst up to 3.9 GHz) Intel Core N305 (4x E Cores/Threads, Max burst up to 3.8 GHz) TDP: 7W / 9W (Base) Graphics Intel UHD Graphics 32 EUs (1.35 GHz) Intel UHD Graphics 24 EUs (1.25 GHz) Memory 1x slot 16 GB DDR5 4800MT/s non ECC SODIMM (Max 32 GB) 1x slot 8 GB DDR5 4800MT/s non ECC SODIMM (Max 32 GB) Disk Capacity 120 TB (30 TB x 4) Supported RAID Types TRAID, TRAID +, RAID0, RAID1, RAID5, RAID 6, RAID 10 Network 2x RJ-45 5 GbE Internal storage 3x M.2 2280 NVMe Slot (PCIe 3.0 x1) Bootloader 2Gbit 256 GB NAND Flash card (MX30LF2G28AD) USB port (internal) USB Ports 1x Type-C 3.2 Gen 2 (10Gbps) 3x Type-A 3.2 Gen 2 (10Gbps) HDMI 1x (HDMI) Hardware Transcoding Engine H.264, H.265, MPEG-4, VC-1 Maximum resolution: 4K (4096 x 2160); Maximum FPS: 60 Size (H/W/D) 219 x 181 x 150 mm Weight 2.9 kg System Fan 150 x181 x 219 mm Power 90W, 100V - 240V AC, 50/60 Hz, Single frequency Power consumption (HDDs) 45W (4x 4TB ST4000VN008 in read/write state) 14W (4x 4TB ST4000VN008 in hibernation) Noise Level: 20.9 dB(A) Using 4 SATA HDDs/SSDs in standby mode; Test environment noise: 17.3dB(A); Test distance: 1m Warranty 2 Years OS TOS 7.0.0706 (Beta) MSRP £639.99, $699.99, €739.99 / £739.99, $799.99, €839.99 As you can see above, there are two variants of the F4-425 Pro releasing today. The lesser variant has the slightly weaker N305 CPU and iGP, and 8 GB less RAM, although it also costs $100 less than the top variant we are testing today. In addition, these new F4-425 Pros are shipped with the as-yet-unreleased TOS 7 beta. So what is TOS 7 exactly? During the device initialization, you are warned not to use it in a production environment, which we'll get into later. My contact told me that TOS 7 exits beta today, June 23 with version 7.0.0746. The clear difference with the F4-425 Plus is that it contains the more powerful N350 Intel CPU released in the first quarter of 2025, with support for DisplayPort 1.4, HDMI 2.1, LPDDR5 (4800), DDR5 and DDR4, and a max TDP of just 7W. It also supports AV1 decoding, as well as H.264, VP8, VP9, H.265 (8 bit), and H.265 (10 bit). The different capabilities in the Alder Lake-N (and Twin Lake) series are listed below. Processor E-cores L3-cache Turbo clock GPU GPU-clock TDP Intel N355 8 6 MB 3.9 GHz 32 EUs 1.35 GHz 9 W Intel Core 3 N350 3.9 GHz 1.35 GHz 7 W Intel Core i3-N305 3.8 GHz 1.25 GHz 9 W Intel Core i3-N300 3.8 GHz 1.25 GHz Intel N250 4 3.8 GHz 1.25 GHz 6 W Intel Processor N200 3.7 GHz 0.75 GHz Intel N150 3.6 GHz 24 EUs 1 GHz Intel N97 1.2 GHz 12 W Intel Processor N100 3.4 GHz 0.75 GHz 6 W The CPU is part of the Alder Lake-N series that sits just below the top N355 offering, albeit with an impressive TDP (less than the N355 and N305) for the features it offers. It is designed for low- powered systems and entry-level laptops. As before, we are seeing another NAS with an acceptable, if not great, amount of RAM. It should be noted that the F4-425 Pro only has one SODIMM slot, so if you are planning to upgrade the already 16GB included in this NAS, it will have to be on one module of Single Rank DDR5. As a reminder, up until a couple of years ago, it was commonplace to only get 2 or 4GB max on a flagship Synology or QNAP home NAS. Ever since the likes of TerraMaster and more have entered the market with ample RAM sizes included in their NAS offerings, it has gone a long way in forcing the hands of the traditional makers to up their game a bit. Before we dive in, you can view the different SKUs released so far since the 2025 series launched for Home and SMB users, with the most important specifications listed along with the MSRP listed below: SKU CPU Cores Memory Link Price F2-425 Intel N5095 4 4 GB DDR4 2.5 GbE x1 $249.99 F4-425 Intel N5095 4 4 GB DDR4 2.5 GbE x1 $369.99 F2-425 Plus Intel Core N150 4 8 GB DDR5 5 GbE x 2 $399.99 F4-425 Plus Intel Core N150 4 16 GB DDR5 5 GbE x 2 $569.99 F4-425 Pro Intel Core N305 8 8 GB DDR5 5 GbE x 2 $699.99 F4-425 Pro Intel Core N350 8 16 GB DDR5 5 GbE x 2 $799.99 The F2 in the product name means two 3.5-inch HDD bays, where F4 is four 2.5-inch bays. First impressions Like with the F8 SSD Plus packaging, the F4-425 Pro is using the upgraded box materials, which certainly look better than a plain cream colored box with TERRAMASTER stamped on the sides. The box gives off a premium feel and certainly adds a positive vibe to first impressions. In the box F4-425 Pro TNAS device Power adapter LAN cable (CAT 6) Quick guide [full online guide] Limited warranty notice Screws (for HDD bays) Stickers 2x rubber feet (spares) Design As has become kind of common with TerraMaster, certainly in the last three years, the 2025 F2- and F4-series have received a makeover that really adds to the premium feel of the NAS. Gone are the plastic shells, now replaced with an aluminum outer shell, with the front and back retaining the textured black plastic we saw on the 2024 models. Some key differences from the 2024 series include placing the power button back on the front, along with the addition of a Type A USB port. It's not much bigger or heavier either; in fact, it weighs 500 grams less than the F4-424 Pro. It's slightly shorter in height and depth (length), but only by a few millimeters. The front and back do retain a similar style to the 2024 series. On the front, you just have your four bays along with LED indicators for the HDDs and power. The welcomed change is having a USB port on the front for quick access, should you need to back up a USB drive, for example. Around the back, from top to bottom, you have a reset pin hole, an HDMI port, two 5 GbE Ethernet ports, two USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Type A ports with a Type-C port below them, and a connector for the barrel port power source. Again, there's no Kensington Security Slot present, which is a bit of a shame considering it's a data storage device. Left side Right side On the left and right of the F4-425 Plus, it is completely smooth aluminum with a TERRAMASTER logo printed on both sides. On the bottom, there are some holes to assist ventilation. Unlike with the F4-425 Plus, the rubber feet did come unstuck during the teardown, which was also an issue on the 2023 series. It seems like other customers have lodged complaints about them, as TerraMaster now includes two spare rubber feet in the box, in case any of the preinstalled ones are lost; however, this seems more like a papering over the cracks solution rather than actually fixing the issue with better quality rubber stand-offs. There are also four screws that must be removed in order to access the internals. Teardown Upon removing the four screws, you can slide the device out of its shell to reveal the three NVMe M.2 slots (PCIe 3.0 X1) and single SODIMM slot connector, which is populated with a single 16GB DDR5 4800MT/s module. I added a couple of MP44Q M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSDs (2 x 4TB) that can be availed on Amazon for $492.99 that TEAMGROUP supplied us with, along with a 250GB 970 Evo Plus that my colleague Chris White sent me by accident and let me keep a few years ago. As I have said in previous reviews, TerraMaster support staff actually encourage installing whatever you want on their devices, and happily, the USB port for the bootloader is now easily accessible should you want to use it for your own flavor of NAS OS, such as TrueNAS, Unraid, or maybe Xpenology. Yes, because TerraMaster has now switched to a 256 GB NAND Flash card (3rd photo above) for the TOS bootloader. This is also replaceable, but you can also simply add a USB bootloader, access the BIOS, and tell the F4-425 Pro to boot from that instead of the Flash card. Unlike earlier iterations of TerraMaster NAS, you don't have to tear this down any further than the four screws on the outer shell in order to be able to access and manage the memory, NVMe slots, and USB bootloader. However, if you need to access the NAND Flash card or CMOS battery, then eight more screws (four on each side) need to be removed in order to take off the rear panel with the 120mm fan, and then the motherboard can be lifted off and removed from the SATA connector PCB. There's also no risk of threading the screw holes, because the four that hold the shell in place are metal on metal, while the screws that hold the rear panel on do screw into plastic. Either way, like last time when I reviewed the F4-425 plus, I was just happier to see larger screws being used. Overall, it follows some great improvements in build quality from the 2024 series and earlier. Setup BIOS The F4-425 Pro includes an Aptio BIOS from American Megatrends [1, 2], and you can setup pretty much everything here including the boot order, which is locked to the UEFI OS, however above that choice you can enable or disable booting to the USB bootloader so this would still allow you to switch to a USB stick with an alternative bootloader and boot from it, or disable it to instead always start from the first disk with an OS installed on it. Initial Setup Setup is roughly the same as the F4-425 Plus, along with the new TOS 7 setup dialogs, so there will be no surprises here. Upon connecting to the LAN and booting up, the F4-425 Pro can be reached by navigating to http://tnas.local. If that doesn't work, you can use the local address assigned via DHCP, which you can find using the TNAS PC desktop application, which is essentially a TerraMaster NAS finder. The setup process is pretty straightforward, through a wizard, and in full below: TOS 7 Initialization As you can see, TOS 7 received a new coat of paint, and the initialization requires fewer interactions. Happily, TOS no longer decides to throw all disks into the same Storage Pool; 2.5-inch HDDs are allocated into Storage Pool 1. This is because two of the HDDs are allocated to hold system files. Previously (with TOS 5 and 6), if you pre-installed HDDs and SSDs, they were all placed into Storage Pool 1, even if you did not select the SSDs for inclusion during the onboarding. TOS 7 Setup On first boot, there is a tutorial and some steps to take to harden the TNAS (or not), which includes an immediate update from TOS 7.0.0616 to 7.0.0706, of which the changelog screenshot is also included in the above gallery. It must be noted that the Security Advisor still contains (in my opinion) a pretty major bug in that if you enable SPC and then do the required rebooting, the Security Advisor still says that SPC is disabled. TerraMaster provided the following statement about it: It is disappointing that TOS 7 has been in beta since December, and this OOBE issue is still there. Shutdown option has moved Instead of a Taskbar option to manage the NAS, all of these options have been moved to a "Start panel", initially I didn't see it and my contact had to show me how to power off the F4-425 Pro. To logout, reboot or power off you can find those controls at the top right of the Panel. It is also possible to power off through the TNAS mobile app beta. Storage setup Above, you can see the steps I took to create the Storage Pools and Volumes. I made a second Storage Pool using TRAID on two 4TB MP44Q SSDs (which, in this instance, is similar to RAID 5), and finally, I added the 250GB 970 Evo Plus drive as Hyper Cache on Storage Pool 1 in Balanced mode. Registering If you decide not to lock down the F4-425 Pro in Security Isolation Mode (blocking all external connections), then you could set up a TNAS device ID through the Remote Access setting in the Control Panel (which must be unique). This works in combination with an online TerraMaster account. TOS 7 TNAS Online Creating a TerraMaster account and linking the device online activates the warranty when you provide proof of purchase and the serial number, but it also gives you access through the TNAS mobile app, which allows you to complete certain operationsб including powering off and restarting the NAS remotely. A TNAS mobile update is required to gain access through TOS 7, and this is provided on the TerraMaster website, as it is not yet on Google Play. The app is evolving all the time and has made leaps and bounds since I first started reviewing TerraMaster devices almost three years ago. It is not quite there yet if you are comparing the likes of Synology, which, sadly, a lot of users online do all the time. OpenClaw setup One of the main selling points of the new F4-425 Pro is the inclusion of OpenClaw, with TerraMaster claiming that it is "powered by the world's first AI-native TOS 7 OS, supporting local-first smart workflows and independent data control." However, I immediately ran into problems trying to enable OpenClaw. After waiting 20 minutes at the "Enabling" message of the OpenClaw app following installation, I decided to do some searching online and discovered that it couldn't complete the installation process due to SPC being enabled, which is something TOS 7 immediately recommends to be enabled on first boot. SPC for NAS (TOS 7) is basically the same principle as UAC in Windows; it blocks executables from being launched by non-Super Users. After reaching out to my contact about these issues, I received the following response: Anyway, this only became clear when I closed the OpenClaw app screen and clicked on the OpenClaw icon in the taskbar; that is when I saw the message about disabling SPC. I think, due to the fact that this is a requirement, this should be a prompt during the installation process, not when closing the App Market and then trying to launch OpenClaw. There's also no 'Getting started' guide for people like me who have never used OpenClaw. I tried to add an LLM and discovered the tutorial led nowhere. That's when I started looking around the official TerraMaster forums, and I found a guide that helpfully explains that you won't get anywhere with OpenClaw unless you have a paid plan, which is disappointing because I imagined there would be an option to use a local LLM as I do in SubtitleEdit with Whisper-XXL. In addition, with the marketing imagery on the official site, it says that the OpenClaw feature is "all processed 100% locally for absolute privacy." which led me to believe that I could install a local LLM, not one that required paid tokens. In any case, TerraMaster does not provide guidance for this new feature, which was also a selling point of the F4-425 Pro! My contact also provided clarification about the above points I raised with TerraMaster Since it is not in the scope of the review to add paid services, I'll leave that to the people who are more qualified with OpenClaw. F4-425 Pro Surveillance App TOS also comes with a Surveillance app, which is not installed by default; it can be found in the App Market recommended section. In addition, after installing, it doesn't drop a shortcut on the Desktop or top taskbar, but you can "Send to Desktop" from the App Market listing for the app for a quick way to open it. Adding my Reolink POE doorbell camera was painless. TerraMaster doesn't appear to have a repository of preconfigured cameras; instead, the camera must be added using ONVIF or RTSP. No mobile Surveillance app TerraMaster still doesn't have a dedicated Surveillance app, although from searching online, Surveillance can be used and managed through the TNAS mobile app. I tried this with the updated TNAS mobile app beta in combination with TOS 7 and got a message that Surveillance was "Only accessible through web browser," so I reckon this must be limited to the stable versions of TOS 6 and the mobile app. More quirks In addition, whenever I minimized the Live View window in the browser Surveillance app, the feed appeared to switch to the Low-bandwidth stream, and there was no way to get the High-quality stream back. To get the High-quality stream back, I had to close Live View and then reopen it. Benchmarking A pretty cool feature of the TOS 7 is that it allows you to install directly to the NVMe M.2 SSD. In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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