[NCAA Football] BCS Go Boom

[Ayepecks]

Oklahoma beats #1 Missouri... OK, not going to lie, that wasn't too hard to predict, but...

PITT beats #2 West Virginia!

The BCS ain't gonna last.

[giga Veteran]

OSU v LSU.

[Ayepecks]

Yeah, I think that's pretty much a given now... but there's going to be a lot of complaints coming soon for the BCS.

[giga Veteran]

It's no doubt Richt and GA will riot but of course they didn't even play in the SEC championship.

[Chadwick]

VT BABY! Haha, yeah BCS needs to go, how can they possibly pick the "right' 2 loss team for the title game now? Not to mention how f'd up it is already in terms of rankings vs. schedules. Look at VT's schedule this year vs. their biggest opponents such as Boston College. VT had a tough schedule, they actually had to earn their way into the top 10, BC and Virginia were both just handed that. They both failed when they had a challenge. No matter what happens at this point, nobody is going to agree it was the correct outcome. I think this system could still be used to determine playoff seeds, but thats about it, its fun to watch the rankings change all season long, than to have the final top 10 or whatever playoff would be awesome.

[xinary]

VT BABY! Haha, yeah BCS needs to go, how can they possibly pick the "right' 2 loss team for the title game now? Not to mention how f'd up it is already in terms of rankings vs. schedules. Look at VT's schedule this year vs. their biggest opponents such as Boston College. VT had a tough schedule, they actually had to earn their way into the top 10, BC and Virginia were both just handed that. They both failed when they had a challenge. No matter what happens at this point, nobody is going to agree it was the correct outcome. I think this system could still be used to determine playoff seeds, but thats about it, its fun to watch the rankings change all season long, than to have the final top 10 or whatever playoff would be awesome.

That makes no sense...

OSU is not a two loss team either :)

I don't see what all the complaining is about, over the last couple weeks there has been some HUGE upsets that really shaped the top 5, is this not what SHOULD happen if there is an upset? I was fully ready to accept that OSU was not going when they were upset by Illinois. I think the complainers are just looking for an excuse to make up for a poor season or a big upset..

[xinary]

Oklahoma beats #1 Missouri... OK, not going to lie, that wasn't too hard to predict, but...

PITT beats #2 West Virginia!

The BCS ain't gonna last.

Why is it the BCS's fault that West Virginia got upset? Are you living in a perfect world where this cannot happen and if the odds say a team should win, then they just should?

[spenser.d]

Why is it the BCS's fault that West Virginia got upset? Are you living in a perfect world where this cannot happen and if the odds say a team should win, then they just should?

Heh, this whole season pretty much sums up the reason I don't play odds in sports.

-Spenser

[xinary]

Heh, this whole season pretty much sums up the reason I don't play odds in sports.

-Spenser

Yea I guess if I lost all my money I would blame "the system" too!

[Ayepecks]

Why is it the BCS's fault that West Virginia got upset? Are you living in a perfect world where this cannot happen and if the odds say a team should win, then they just should?

Please tell me you're not that dense.

I never once implied that. What I implied was that there are a lot of deserving teams for a national title shot, and the way the BCS is set up they're not all going to get their shot, hence why many people are proponents of a playoff system of some sort.

[xinary]

Please tell me you're not that dense.

I never once implied that. What I implied was that there are a lot of deserving teams for a national title shot, and the way the BCS is set up they're not all going to get their shot, hence why many people are proponents of a playoff system of some sort.

So I guess if the Colts loose their division playoff game even though on paper they could definitly have a shot at a superbowl win, it's all of a sudden okay because we used a playoff system instead?

Every team plays by the same system, playoff or not.

You are the one that sounds dense, all politeness intended.

[kak]

WVU really choked that game. The team is bipolar.. watch how they played vs UCONN and then watch the PITT game. Ugh.

[mattmatik]

I don't see how LSU is able to jump Va Tech when both of them won their conference championships yesterday and going into the games, Va Tech was ranked higher. And why shouldn't OU get a shot at the title game for beating #1? The whole BCS thing sucks, I don't care what it did for Florida last year.

Like a talking-head on ESPN Radio said last night, if the BCS are just 'standings' (which they are), how can any team jump another team after both won? We still have a ranking system, nothing has changed from the AP/Coach's Polls, we're just tricked into thinking it has.

And who really wants to see OSU in the title game again? They play a 1-game season (Michigan).

[giga Veteran]

I don't see how LSU is able to jump Va Tech when both of them won their conference championships yesterday and going into the games, Va Tech was ranked higher. And why shouldn't OU get a shot at the title game for beating #1? The whole BCS thing sucks, I don't care what it did for Florida last year.

Like a talking-head on ESPN Radio said last night, if the BCS are just 'standings' (which they are), how can any team jump another team after both won? We still have a ranking system, nothing has changed from the AP/Coach's Polls, we're just tricked into thinking it has.

And who really wants to see OSU in the title game again? They play a 1-game season (Michigan).

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/recap?gid=200709080076

AP

1. Ohio State (50) (11-1) 1578 3

2. LSU (11) (11-2) 1519 5

3. Oklahoma (1) (11-2) 1423 9

4. Georgia (1) (10-2) 1421 4

5. Virginia Tech (1) (11-2) 1380 6

6. USC (10-2) 1346 8

7. Missouri (11-2) 1195 1

8. Kansas (11-1) 1164 7

9. Florida (9-3) 1071 10

10. Hawaii (1) (12-0) 1050 11

11. West Virginia (10-2) 1040 2

12. Arizona State (10-2) 939 13

13. Illinois (9-3) 797 15

14. Boston College (10-3) 668 12

15. Clemson (9-3) 614 16

16. Tennessee (9-4) 554 14

17. Texas (9-3) 517 17

18. Wisconsin (9-3) 447 19

19. Brigham Young (10-2) 439 21

20. Cincinnati (9-3) 394 20

21. Virginia (9-3) 344 22

22. Auburn (8-4) 264 23

23. South Florida (9-3) 246 25

24. Boise State (10-2) 221 24

25. Arkansas (8-4) 173 26

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/polls?poll=1...date=2007-12-02

Coaches: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

[xinary]

I don't see how LSU is able to jump Va Tech when both of them won their conference championships yesterday and going into the games, Va Tech was ranked higher. And why shouldn't OU get a shot at the title game for beating #1? The whole BCS thing sucks, I don't care what it did for Florida last year.

Like a talking-head on ESPN Radio said last night, if the BCS are just 'standings' (which they are), how can any team jump another team after both won? We still have a ranking system, nothing has changed from the AP/Coach's Polls, we're just tricked into thinking it has.

And who really wants to see OSU in the title game again? They play a 1-game season (Michigan).

Because one team beat a higher ranked team than the other team, why does this escape people?

[xinary]

I don't see how LSU is able to jump Va Tech when both of them won their conference championships yesterday and going into the games, Va Tech was ranked higher. And why shouldn't OU get a shot at the title game for beating #1? The whole BCS thing sucks, I don't care what it did for Florida last year.

Like a talking-head on ESPN Radio said last night, if the BCS are just 'standings' (which they are), how can any team jump another team after both won? We still have a ranking system, nothing has changed from the AP/Coach's Polls, we're just tricked into thinking it has.

And who really wants to see OSU in the title game again? They play a 1-game season (Michigan).

It's all quite logical, sounds as if you are just upset that it didn't go your way, their are facts and numbers to put the teams in the rankings that they are, its quite simple.

[Mathachew Veteran]

Yay for LSU! Crazy that both of their losses were from triple overtime.

[IlliniPi]

I'm smelling roses. :D

I feel real bad for Mizzou...they were ranked higher in the BCS than Kansas, had a better season than Kansas, and don't even get a BCS bowl bid?

[Ayepecks]

Because one team beat a higher ranked team than the other team, why does this escape people?

Um, no, they didn't. Oklahoma beat the #1 ranked team in the nation,.

And, as for your other post:

So I guess if the Colts loose their division playoff game even though on paper they could definitly have a shot at a superbowl win, it's all of a sudden okay because we used a playoff system instead?

Every team plays by the same system, playoff or not.

You are the one that sounds dense, all politeness intended.

I'm sorry, but that literally makes no sense what-so-ever. If the Colts "loose" their playoff game they should go to the Superbowl? Huh?! :blink: Yes, they could have a shot at the Superbowl. But that's the beauty of the playoff: every team that HAS a shot GETS a shot!

[L3thal Veteran]

Why did LSU pass VT? Well, its very simple. When they met each other in Baton Rouge in September, LSU beat VT 48-7. Therefore, you cannot possibly place VT on top of LSU when they end the season in even terms (both won their conferences).

[Ayepecks]

Why did LSU pass VT? Well, its very simple. When they met each other in Baton Rouge in September, LSU beat VT 48-7. Therefore, you cannot possibly place VT on top of LSU when they end the season in even terms (both won their conferences).

Yeah, Virginia Tech really didn't have a shot at the title game with LSU winning.

[sdb815]

What really sucks is that Mizzou was ranked #1 but was considered an underdog going up against OU in the Big 12 Championship. :wacko:

My opinion is that if you're ranked #1 you should never be considered and underdog, otherwise you don't deserve to be #1.

[kak]

What really sucks is that Mizzou was ranked #1 but was considered an underdog going up against OU in the Big 12 Championship. :wacko:

My opinion is that if you're ranked #1 you should never be considered and underdog, otherwise you don't deserve to be #1.

The way teams have played this season, no one wants to be #1.. or #2.

[Aaron Veteran]

What really sucks is that Mizzou was ranked #1 but was considered an underdog going up against OU in the Big 12 Championship. :wacko:

My opinion is that if you're ranked #1 you should never be considered and underdog, otherwise you don't deserve to be #1.

But, the oddsmakers in Vegas don't vote on who is #1, do they?

[Chadwick]

Yeah, Virginia Tech really didn't have a shot at the title game with LSU winning.

I disagree, compare schedules, look at the computer rankings. VT should be in this game, ohio state shouldn't be glad to be top 5. Nobody seems to pay attention to who is actually being played in these games, hawaii was the only team that had it as easy as ohio state..