vigylant Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Well, this program(combo) enables you to keep UAC on (not quit mode, COMPLETELY ON), and still be able to launch program that requires administrator access on startup without UACs prompts :D It uses a program from ASUS SmartDoctor (ASDR.exe) that launches the program that I made with administrator access (without any UAC prompts) Then, my program launches the program the user specified in the "Start.txt" :) I dont know how ASDR works, it just does, would be fun to know.... I modified it a little using a HEX editor to read a different registry value than its original one, new one being: HKLM\Software\UACLauncher\Path How the other stuff works: 1. Start my prog 2. Two programs are extracted in the same folder, ASDR.exe and instsrv.exe (from microsoft, installs ASDR as a service, name UACLauncher) 3.1 Choose to install: ASDR is installed as a service 3.2 Choose to uninstall: ASDR service is uninstalled 4. See Start.txt for info Click to download Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I don't really see the point, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of uac? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589034534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vigylant Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 No, cause it still protects your computer... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589035766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinfamous Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 No, cause it still protects your computer... But it's a very vulnerable attack vector for privilege escalation, which is why Vista comes with nothing to allow this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589036001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 So all a hacker has to do is add their program name to start.txt... ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589036051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 It does seem to defeat the purpose of UAC, but I don't think many hackers are going to be able to take advantage of this, as not very many will be running it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589036078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 But it's a very vulnerable attack vector for privilege escalation, which is why Vista comes with nothing to allow this.Scheduled tasks allows the administrator to set up jobs to start, at logon, with administrative credentials - but this is really quite similar, in that services are doing the launching, and also requires administrative creds to set up.I've used this on my machine to get SpeedFan and BOINC, two programs that require administrative privileges to run properly (no "the programs are defective, get new ones" nonsense, ok?) at logon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589036169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinfamous Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Scheduled tasks allows the administrator to set up jobs to start, at logon, with administrative credentials - but this is really quite similar, in that services are doing the launching, and also requires administrative creds to set up.I've used this on my machine to get SpeedFan and BOINC, two programs that require administrative privileges to run properly (no "the programs are defective, get new ones" nonsense, ok?) at logon. Scheduling those tasks requires the Admin password to be entered. If at any point, something executing has your password, security is already shot to hell. This will never be a target for exploitation, because it's just a little tool that probably won't be widely enough used to gain attention. I was just explaining why Vista didn't come with anything to do this out of the box: Because it would be a very widely exploited feature. Edited December 4, 2007 by MioTheGreat Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589036362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vigylant Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 So i can just use scheduled tasks to do the same thing? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589036484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 So all a hacker has to do is add their program name to start.txt... ? If someone is able to edit the file that you've got bigger problems to worry about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589038085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuderiaconchiglia Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Well, this program(combo) enables you to keep UAC on (not quit mode, COMPLETELY ON), and still be able to launch program that requires administrator access on startup without UACs prompts :D Sweet! I just installed this so I can get Speedfan to start up by itself when I need to reboot. Very nice!!! Yes, yes, I realize that this creates a small security bypass vector. But the risk is damn small. Thanks again! Gary P.S. When you said "ASDR is installed as a service" I looked for ASDR in the list of services but could not find it. I did find UACLauncher though! You might want to edit your first message to reflect that. Edited December 12, 2007 by scuderiaconchiglia Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589055418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrNo Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Thanx! This program came in extremly useful. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589341603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted April 19, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2008 So all a hacker has to do is add their program name to start.txt... ? Well, it's not quite that simple since you can easily store start.txt in a location that requires admin privileges to access. It's more worrisome that if you put an executable on that list that isn't in a protected location, somebody could replace that executable (or a library that it loads) with a malicious binary. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589342732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelchm Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I find it amusing that yo uactually think UAC is protecting your computer. UAC is by far one of the worst security ideas Microsoft has implemented, imo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589344456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyu Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I find it amusing that yo uactually think UAC is protecting your computer.UAC is by far one of the worst security ideas Microsoft has implemented, imo. The only UAC doesn't do well is protecting the user from his/her own stupidity. Otherwise, its pretty okay. If you think its invasive, you should see how Linux does it (hint: in the same way). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589344526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted April 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 20, 2008 Scheduled tasks allows the administrator to set up jobs to start, at logon, with administrative credentials - but this is really quite similar, in that services are doing the launching, and also requires administrative creds to set up.I've used this on my machine to get SpeedFan and BOINC, two programs that require administrative privileges to run properly (no "the programs are defective, get new ones" nonsense, ok?) at logon. Scheduled Tasks is one way I got RivaTuner to boot without a UAC prompt. View instructions here. In the current version of RivaTuner it normally spawns a process that?prompts?the?user?for?elevation.? It's quite unfortunate the ones who make the best hardware monitoring and control tools do it for free and have little to shell out to have their drivers signed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/604586-uaclauncher-launch-adminprogs-at-startup-without-messages-from-uac/#findComment-589344542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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