Simply Windows XP is better than Vista

[seta-san]

could someone close this thread. the entire attitude and maturity of the topic and those in it seem to suggest they haven't even got pubes yet.

[Starbuck84]

virtually this entire thread is founded on opinions only.

So true. I have Vista on 2 PC's and both are running fine, but I can understand why people still want to use XP. It's all just a matter of opinion and what you find working best for you. :)

[ShadowPHP]

This kind of publicity is the best Windows users can get. Don't you see it?

If people refuse to use Vista M$ has to make it better.

What the hell are M$ employees doing all day?

Are they all in marketing/FUD/bull**** department? Or here defending Vista.

They are just keeping hardware vendors happy so they'll continue their unholy alliance with devil.

Sorry, I realise this is an old post but I just happened to see this little gem.

Tell me, abcdefg - Can you program anything as sophisticated as Windows?

Now I'm not a Vista lover - I use it at home and at work, it's been... alright.

It's crashed a few times, needed 1 or 2 reinstalls but still. There are millions, maybe even billions of lines of code to maintain.

You can't just write up a whole fix for something in an hour - things need to be tested to make sure the fix doesn't break something else. These things take time.

I'm sure Microsoft employees are working as hard as possible to get Vista to work perfectly. Afterall, If people think Vista turned from a buggy Os into a brilliantly reliable one - the people who made that happen can have a success story like that on their CV.

anyway - apologies for the messy post. Typing fast and it's late, plus I'm not a writer.

~ Andy

[mobilnic]

ha ha! don't bash the poster folks, i think they just had a bad time with their pc.

but seriously, although i'm not anti-xp, i've been using vista business 32 for quite a while now & havent had any major problems, the minor problems have been fixed already by the nice folks @ ms (thank you microsoft for offering better after-sales support than apple).

i'm thinking of the phrase "one cannot teach an old dog new tricks". i'ts perhaps not entirely a good idea to install any new software on old pc's unless the said pc would at least be reasonably upgraded.

yes, i am using a fresh new pc.

[k311]

i have vista on my laptop that i have sinced created a dual boot with ubuntu. vista came with the laptop and quite honestly, next to ubuntu, its a dog.

i will also say as a linux user that i think its hilarious when someone talks about using vista just for the graphics..

[Andre S. Veteran]

i have vista on my laptop that i have sinced created a dual boot with ubuntu. vista came with the laptop and quite honestly, next to ubuntu, its a dog.

i will also say as a linux user that i think its hilarious when someone talks about using vista just for the graphics..

Well at least in Vista you can run actual applications, not just gimmick around. :laugh:

[Andre S. Veteran]

By the way, I was basically just kidding. Although that's still A BIT how I feel about Linux, being forced to use it weekly and often struggling to get any sort of work done...

[NEVER85]

People still complain about Vista? Personally, my experiences with it have been leaps and bounds better than XP. Then again, I never liked XP. Install SP1 and 95% of the problems people constantly complain about will be gone, which is still 1 less service pack than it took before XP became a half-decent operating system.

[zhangm Supervisor]

I'm real appreciative of the morons who I run into in real life, and take it upon themselves to tell me how unstable, slow, bloated, and crash-prone my computer must be. It runs fast, is stable, and does everything I need it to quickly. When I tell them that they're misinformed, they start acting like I must be lying to them. Its completely absurd.

[Nashy]

I'm so sick of these god damned threads. FFS.

[hjf288]

I'm so sick of these god damned threads. FFS.

Yes... Everytime i see one leads me to :Facepalm:

[hjf288]

Strange doublepost

[shadow2]

STOP BASHING windows vista they just got a SP so go and see if they fix the bugs and plz do a clean install before installing sp1 :D

[nXP_151 Veteran]

Vista is ok....hmmm but for some reason I still like WindowsXP, best version of Windows IMO....:D

[Quillz]

everybody should already agree that VISTA is Windows ME second edition. I use a mac and i boot with xp if i need windows apps. thanks for a laugh :D

Do you even understand why people disliked Windows ME so much? Windows ME literally was a downgrade from 98, as it removed real-mode MS-DOS, and that's the reason so many things were broken in ME. Vista is absolutely NOTHING like ME, not at all. Do some research before making such stupid comments.

virtually this entire thread is founded on opinions only.

Mostly true. There are still a few instances were XP bests Vista, but generally only in the gaming category. And it's only because no one seems to be releasing new drivers for Vista.

+1

Couldn't agree more.. Haven't had unresponsive programs, driver incompatibility, slow performance, etc since I upgraded last year and I'm running it on a decent enough "Vista-ready" computer :rolleyes:

Same here. I've been running Windows Vista Ultimate since November 2006 on an old Dell Inspiron that wasn't even recommended for Vista. But I upgraded a few components and now Vista runs great. I get Aero Glass, it's extremely quick and responsive, it doesn't crash, and on and on and on. For me, it's by far the best version of Windows ever.

Vista is ok....hmmm but for some reason I still like WindowsXP, best version of Windows IMO.... :D

To each their own. I think Vista is the best version of Windows. And there are those who think 2000 is the best. At the end of the day, there really is no "best OS." It's all about finding the one that works best for you and your needs. And, hey, if that's Windows 3.1, then so be it.

[NoneAvail]

You know why Vista sucks for you guys? BUY A NEW ****ING COMPUTER OR UPGRADE

There comes a time in computer world where something new comes out whether you like it or not you *have* to upgrade.

Thats it. Once you have a nice suited up computer, you'll enjoy the vista experience.

[ANova]

You know why Vista sucks for you guys? BUY A NEW ****ING COMPUTER OR UPGRADE

There comes a time in computer world where something new comes out whether you like it or not you *have* to upgrade.

Thats it. Once you have a nice suited up computer, you'll enjoy the vista experience.

Or, you could keep the computer you have as well as XP and still have a fast OS that does everything Vista does but also supports alot more software.

[Quillz]

Or, you could keep the computer you have as well as XP and still have a fast OS that does everything Vista does but also supports alot more software.

Except XP doesn't do everything Vista does. Maybe it can do most practical tasks, but then again, so can Windows 95. The funny thing about Windows releases is that each one adds features, but the previous OS will still do fine for years. Case in point: There are people out there who still run 95/98 full time. Why? Because it can access the Internet, it can do word processing, it can run Photoshop, etc.

You know why Vista sucks for you guys? BUY A NEW ****ING COMPUTER OR UPGRADE

There comes a time in computer world where something new comes out whether you like it or not you *have* to upgrade.

Thats it. Once you have a nice suited up computer, you'll enjoy the vista experience.

You don't need a new computer to run Vista. But you do need a new mentality, you need to be able to put aside the FUD and just try the OS. I think a lot of misinformed people who've hopped on the anti-Microsoft bandwagon will be surprised to find that even "ancient" hardware from early 2006 can run Vista perfectly, including Aero Glass. I have an old Dell from late 2004 that is running Vista Ultimate right now with everything enabled.

[Circaflex]

I'm real appreciative of the morons who I run into in real life, and take it upon themselves to tell me how unstable, slow, bloated, and crash-prone my computer must be. It runs fast, is stable, and does everything I need it to quickly. When I tell them that they're misinformed, they start acting like I must be lying to them. Its completely absurd.

haha i deal with that all the time at work (Best Buy) people tell me the horror stories they hear about vista, most of them say nothing works. they seem so dumbfounded when i say, hey ive been using it for over a year and not a single problem. I then have to tell them we went through this same "problem" with windows xp, but with xp it was A LOT worse than it was with Vista.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Is Xp simply better than Vista? NO it is not. It all depends on the hardware involved. I have been running Vista Business for over a year and prior to that Beta tested about 6 builds of Ultimate and not one BSOD. I can't say the same about my Xp machine.

[HardSide]

I'm a huge XP fan boy. However I did purchase a pre-built dell for my old man that came with Vista. I have to say I am very impressed. Yes he does have 3 gig ram with a 9800 geforce. with a 7200 rpm hd and dual processor.

The load time on the vista is much faster then on the xp, if you actually compare it (which I have, i loaded a xp and a vista with almost the same hardware).

Your first focus on your "review" you claim is the eye candy and the useless features that slow down your pc. You can make windows vista theme run exactly like xp. So, you do have a choice in going back to the old style of xp.

Then we go on with your second topic "XP comes with some impressive device support." When XP first came out, it was not compatible with a lot of hardware and software. It took about 2 years to get everything working. However with some testing I did realize that yes Vista still has tons of prob's. But the probs are mostly usb identification problems. If you use hardware that require usb connectibality. You will have a problem, as for software, just like windows 2000 vs windows xp, it depends on the software manufacturer to make his/her software to work with Vista, that cannot be helped. But the usb identification in Vista is a big problem.

Then we go on with your "hanging" problems, been using Vista for almost 3 months, I experienced no hanging of any software, that sounds like a personal problem and you should not blame any Operating System for your screw ups. However I do agree, the task manager, as you call it CTRL+ALT+DEL software... is bloated, and it does take a bit to respond. Which is daunting and very aggrivating. Truely XP win's in that case hands down.

Your gaming and media topics are totally out of whack, I have no idea what you are trying to say. I can watch tv, listen to music, and play Crysis with no problem. Sounds like a personal problem.

So in my conclusion. Your review is very very XP fan boy based, and im an XP fan boy and I can say that. Clearly most of the problems your experiencing are your own, and you should not blame your OS for your hangups of software or for the lack of power your system puts out. If you are having such problem use Linux, but I doubt any OS is right for you, first learn to use your computer, then we can discuss about recommending you an OS.

Now as a summary, the flaws of Windows Vista 32 bit version:

The Task Manager does load slower then Windows XP.

Windows Vista does require much more power then Windows XP. Atleast 2 gig ram, with a good processor and video card.

Vista is not compatible with EVERY usb connected hardware/parallel, however just like XP, it will take a bit.

Windows provides there own software for just about everything in Vista, and if you use there, you are just fine, however if you use 3rd party application, such as TrendMicro, or Nero, you are pretty much screwing yourself if your looking for speed. Vista comes with there own firewall (much better then the one in XP, i cannot stress that ENOUGH!). They come with there own burning software, which in reality is not as sophisticated as Nero, but it gets the job done from Burning images to just about anything.

The other problem is, and this is mostly for Office users, is SQL, it cannot handle huge SQL data, not at high speeds. I run a SQL datacenter for payroll in the office, Vista takes forever to load it. It clearly is horrible, I even called the software creator and Microsoft (yeh i know!) and they said it is a problem that they are address (on the Microsoft Side of things)

And yes if you want to know, I use my computers for downloading, encoding of movies/anime, music, decrypting music, playing games, fan boy drawing, and professional drawing such as Autocad, plus I network and operate my own SQL database that is run on about 20 machines. Trust me, I have tested and grinded Vista to no end.

[KeeperOfThePizza]

oh jeeez no this crap again

[ANova]

Except XP doesn't do everything Vista does.

The only difference in terms of functionality between the two is Vista has improved security, which is not really an issue on XP either as long as you set it up correctly. The rest is merely in the interface and other small improvments here and there, some are actually steps backwards imo.

You don't need a new computer to run Vista. But you do need a new mentality, you need to be able to put aside the FUD and just try the OS. I think a lot of misinformed people who've hopped on the anti-Microsoft bandwagon will be surprised to find that even "ancient" hardware from early 2006 can run Vista perfectly, including Aero Glass. I have an old Dell from late 2004 that is running Vista Ultimate right now with everything enabled.

Vista will run on nearly any x86 based PC, Aero can run on integrated graphics; how fast it runs is another story entirely and Vista is a resource hog.

I then have to tell them we went through this same "problem" with windows xp, but with xp it was A LOT worse than it was with Vista.

I remember moving from 98 to XP very well and while I did wait a few months after XP was released to switch over it was because of a lack of software compatibility with some programs I used, not performance or stability issues. XP was, in fact, much more stable then 98 and was only slightly slower.

This nonsensical argument has to end.

[darthblader]

Crap like this has to stop. Vista uses more resources correct but it is still an advancement over XP. Everything runs sweet on vista as long as you have the hardware to support it.

Computer shops have caused this problem because they were selling "vista capable" computers with only 1gb of ram and then people were complaining when there basic machines were lagging or not running correctly.

Same as everything, you want the newest technology, software you will need better hardware. Newer versions of photoshop require more resources to run for example.

Manufacturers like Adobe for example wont wait around for those people crying about how they cant run their programs properly then they could be making money and advancing their software for the people who understand!

Same goes for anything Microsoft makes

[PixilEyes]

Yawn.

Simple if you dont like it dont use it.