Boz Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Uhh.... Source?The Yahoo link does NOT confirm that. I quote from that article (emphasis mine) While I agree, they probably will exit the business, they havent confirmed they will yet. Who knows, they might make an annoucement saying they're releasing Blu-Ray drives... lol. (Hey, that'd be good) From the Yahoo article: TOKYO (Reuters) - Toshiba Corp (6502.T) is planning to give up on its HD DVD format for high-definition video, conceding defeat to the competing Blu-Ray technology backed by Sony Corp (6758.T), a company source said on Saturday. The only thing more official is the actual press releases.. which is now certain to happen most likely next week. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589212813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Update: Along with an English translation of the NHK's article (Thanks sfditty!) comes additional confirmation from Reuters sources, it's a wrap. Toshiba is shutting down its DVD manufacturing facilities in Aomori Prefecture, Japan, while official word is expected "soon". http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba...hd-dvd-already/ Wow, bye HD-DVD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589212906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGS4-SS Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 So much for 100 million people watching the Super Bowl eh? Oh well, goodbye HDDVD, we hardly knew ye. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589212912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 If this is true, that Toshiba is going to kill the HD-DVD, for one thing it's nice, because it means no more format war. But, we must all admit, it's not the better format that is winning. At least, HD-DVD was specification complete from day 1. We still have to deal with Profiles with Blu-Ray. And with TL51 (still to come, nothing is out on TL51 disc), HD-DVD could hold the same amount of data than a 50Gb DL Blu-Ray. In the end, it's still good for customers, even if Blu cost more to own, at least their is no guess work, it's going to be THE format to buy. Just like the transition from VHS to DVD. Think of all the money lost, for Toshiba, for studios that put movies on HD-DVD, for all the medium production, .... The worst part is yet to come for Toshiba.... Think of it, soon, they most probably going to sell Blu-Ray player!!! That's a SLAP on your face alright! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589213662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) We didn't know what the yields were going to be like for the 51GB disc, plus BR would still have the bit-rate advantage. I wonder when Toshiba will bring out a BR player, and at what cost. Obviously since they won't be fighting for their format anymore there would be no point to lose money on their players, so it'll probably cost a fair bit more than their HD-DVD players for a while. Edited February 17, 2008 by AlphaPrime Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589213883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I'm willing to bet that Tosh will offer a dual-format player as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589214126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 But, we must all admit, it's not the better format that is winning. At least, HD-DVD was specification complete from day 1. HD-DVD the better format? Please - there's barely any difference between the two. That's like saying that Kingsmill is obviously the better type of bread over Hovis - they both do the same thing but in slightly different ways. HD-DVD had a complete specification but it was still a rushed format... rather than waiting for higher capacity they decided to push the format to beat Blu-ray. Blu-ray then fought back by releasing their format early and hence the mess with profiles. I am still hoping we'll see Blu-ray discs with more than two layers in the future because one of the things that annoys me about TV shows is that you have lots of discs for them - I'd rather have two or three discs than seven or eight. If Blu-ray remains at only two layers, like DVD did, then it offers nothing above HD-DVD (providing three-layer discs became commonplace). I hoped Blu-ray would win because of the potential for higher storage (like the 200GB prototype disc). The only other plus point I've heard mentioned for HD-DVD is HDi but Microsoft said that they were happy to licence it to Blu-ray. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589214317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 HD-DVD the better format? Please - there's barely any difference between the two. That's like saying that Kingsmill is obviously the better type of bread over Hovis - they both do the same thing but in slightly different ways. neither, warburtons ftw!!! bring on the bread war Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589214452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 HD-DVD the better format? Please - there's barely any difference between the two. That's like saying that Kingsmill is obviously the better type of bread over Hovis - they both do the same thing but in slightly different ways. HD-DVD had a complete specification but it was still a rushed format... rather than waiting for higher capacity they decided to push the format to beat Blu-ray. Blu-ray then fought back by releasing their format early and hence the mess with profiles.I am still hoping we'll see Blu-ray discs with more than two layers in the future because one of the things that annoys me about TV shows is that you have lots of discs for them - I'd rather have two or three discs than seven or eight. If Blu-ray remains at only two layers, like DVD did, then it offers nothing above HD-DVD (providing three-layer discs became commonplace). I hoped Blu-ray would win because of the potential for higher storage (like the 200GB prototype disc). The only other plus point I've heard mentioned for HD-DVD is HDi but Microsoft said that they were happy to licence it to Blu-ray. Even if both formats are replaced by downloadable content, there will still be a need for big optical discs to store those movies, and Hitachi plans to offer an 8-layer Blu-ray disc capable of storing 200GB of data. While this seems like a lot today, by the time it hits the market in 2009 it might not seem like much at the rate hard discs capacity is increasing. this is from engadgethd... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589214463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) From the Yahoo article:The only thing more official is the actual press releases.. which is now certain to happen most likely next week. You do realise that the "company source" is the same source that Reuters used right? (Read the whole article) lol not that I'm trying to defend HD DVD..I'm just pointing out that the Yahoo article is no more confirmation than anything else. Edited February 18, 2008 by Bhav Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589215394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 It's all over! Toshiba just confirmed they are ending production of HD-DVD http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/live-fr...rence-in-tokyo/ http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/officia...at-war-is-over/ http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 And that's it for HD-DVD. Not to say I'm surprised, we all knew what the Warner announcement meant, well, most of us... Time to close this thread? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted February 19, 2008 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2008 Just let it slowly die, like the players and discs out there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hopefully now we can see some of the HD-DVD exclusive videos come out on Blu-ray. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Well this should now mean that all studio's are released from any contract they have with the HD-DVD group. I'd expect a press release from paramount/universial fairly soon. As for Warner, this also means they no longer have to supply HD-DVD's until May so they may pull out as well, although if the disk's are pressed there is little point in not selling them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 This news has made my day (and it's only 9.30am here!) lol...another fantastic reason to own a PS3 :) Now bring on the Bourne movies! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGS4-SS Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Quickly, point and laugh at the dead format. Ha Ha! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589217419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Sad that the better format is not winning. RIP HD DVD! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589218190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightz Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 universal is ready to jump ship... At least one of the two studios exclusive to HD DVD is already gearing up to join the other team."While Universal values the close partnership we have shared with Toshiba, it is time to turn our focus to releasing new and catalog titles on Blu-ray," said Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment. "The path for widespread adoption of the next-generation platform has finally become clear. Universal will continue its aggressive efforts to broaden awareness for hi-def?s unparalleled offerings in interactivity and connectivity, at an increasingly affordable price. The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate." http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html...rticle_id=12118 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589218216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 SAD! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589220053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjordan2001 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Quickly, point and laugh at the dead format. Ha Ha! Especially ironic since Fox has been with Bluray from day 1 ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589220061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeta_immersion Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 all over now ... was bound to happen sooner or later ..... so .. now ... lets look forward to some other format wars coming up .... or any other wars .... xp -vista, obama -clinton , naked news channel - ammm (thaz a clear winner) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589220066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Paramount have now jumped ship as well. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...c969933f25fc601 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589222173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Now its just a waiting game to see when they start releasing (or re-releasing in Paramount's case) on Blu-Ray. It will be interesting to see if they just port the encodes over or redo some of the movies. I'd also like to see if new releases come BD-Live ready [since it is around the corner]. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589222184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I hope they redo their encodes to optimize for BR's higher bitrate and storage space. They might just port the HD-DVD encodes over though. Either way, it's nice to see all the major studios now on the one format. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/613561-official-hd-dvd-confirmed-news/page/5/#findComment-589223273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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