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That finale was quite simply magnificent television. Held me throughout and the final shot had me shouting NO! NO! at the tv. A bit over-reacting maybe; but well deserved. How long do we have to wait for S2 now? Nimoy seemed good as a main character and I'm curiious now how they develop things from here.

That finale was quite simply magnificent television. Held me throughout and the final shot had me shouting NO! NO! at the tv. A bit over-reacting maybe; but well deserved. How long do we have to wait for S2 now? Nimoy seemed good as a main character and I'm curiious now how they develop things from here.

Like most TV shows, we'll probably have to wait until August or September.

That proves people are stupid. This show deserves greatness. In a related subject; after the Scrubs finale last week which was also really well handled; Lost as the last of the big ones (until 24 next week which i dont hold much hope for) has alot to live up to tonight!

Best season finale I've seen in a while. This episode raised the bar for me. Fringe is now in my top 3 favorite shows running.

Nah, not one of the best SFs, but I prefer A lot of action/suspense myself so I mean yeah it has a couple of mind-tripping/thinking moments...(not saying it's a poor SF by any means) but action/suspense wise I've Seen better!!!

A great series. In the past I criticized it for trying too hard to be the nex X-Files. Now I think that of they continue it this will be bigger than X-Files.

To top/beat X-files, they NEED to amp up the action or suspense factor in season 2! Can't just depend on intelligence/thinking/people talking too much only.

As a Huge X-phile, I can tell you X-files is much more suspenseful than this show is.

Through out the season in some episodes there was some sort of "flair" that would appear on the edge of the screen. It happened in the finally when just Olivia cross over to Bell's reality. So was reality switching for her throughout the season and she didn't know it till the end where she was more perceptive about it?

Good Find I agree! :D

interesting that fringe lost so many viewers between the first half hour and the second half hour... must be the american idol fans changed channel.

Yeah, the average american people tend to think all those sci-fi shows are too complex and confusing, so they call them stupid, AS IF they understand it more, are more intelligent to watch Sci-Fis. :|

How Dumb!

I saw it last night but didn't mention it, there's no 13th floor access from that elevator, at least not according to the floor indicator in the elevator. By the time she would have reached floor 13 is when the she moved through dimensions.

No 13th floor is not that unusual:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_floor

OMG! I must say I loved it. Hopefully Prison Break Series Finale will be as good...

I have one question:

So Walter jumped into the alternative dimension, got Peter and jumped back into the normal dimension? What did he lose in the alternative dimension? The end shot is of the alternative dimension right?

OMG! I must say I loved it. Hopefully Prison Break Series Finale will be as good...

I have one question:

So Walter jumped into the alternative dimension, got Peter and jumped back into the normal dimension? What did he lose in the alternative dimension? The end shot is of the alternative dimension right?

Yeah the WTC towers don't exist anymore.

OMG! I must say I loved it. Hopefully Prison Break Series Finale will be as good...

I have one question:

So Walter jumped into the alternative dimension, got Peter and jumped back into the normal dimension? What did he lose in the alternative dimension? The end shot is of the alternative dimension right?

Not sure how this isn't clear or why there's confusion.

Around this time, something was lost to me, Peter. Something precious. I became convinced that ifonly I could cross over myself, then I could take from there what I lost here.

Peter died when he was 6 or 7 (according to the tombstone), this is what Walter lost in our dimension and him visiting his tombstone indicates that he did find a way to cross over, to do exactly what he said he wanted to do, and that the Peter we see is from the other side. How could the ending be our dimension if the twin towers are standing?

Ok so Peter died from a sickness when he was 6-7. Walter found a way to go to the other dimension and get Peter back. Now with the ending, Olivia was in the alternate reality. That's why the elevator stopped at the 13th floor, which doesn't exist in most buildings. So the paper we seen with the Obama's moving into the new whitehouse, and the Twin Towers still standing is what it is like in the alternate reality.

What a great series!!!!! I love it.

I like the brining up of Peter and "how" he died. It is a interesting question. Not sure if he grabbed him from an alternate dimension, since his grave was in this one. Walter could have been from the other dimension and came over to the one he is in now, buried his son, and found his son again in this dimension. Wow...trippy :)

Can't believe who they got to play William Bell..very funny considering Star Trek just came out. :)

What a great series!!!!! I love it.

I like the brining up of Peter and "how" he died. It is a interesting question. Not sure if he grabbed him from an alternate dimension, since his grave was in this one. Walter could have been from the other dimension and came over to the one he is in now, buried his son, and found his son again in this dimension. Wow...trippy :)

Can't believe who they got to play William Bell..very funny considering Star Trek just came out. :)

You can't believe it?!? They announced it/spoiled it weeks ago for starters :D And I believe Nimoy did voiceover work for a couple episodes to lead into his cameo at the end there also :D You shoulda known it was him for awhile!!!!1111

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