J.J. Abrams' Star Trek

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John Freeman

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I don't see how he needs to justify it anymore than those posters coming in here saying it's a good film. Can't really have double standards :p

I've not seen it yet.

Well, those posters are just acknowledging the truth. Your dont justify that earth is round, do you? :D

kk, just joking :)

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Lt-DavidW

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I was surprised at the showing I saw yesterday to see the theatre only about 1/3rd full. No sell outs and my local AMC even canceled a couple of showings. How were the crowds at other showings?

To my surprise I'm pleased to report that my local Cineworld was full!

Er that was the whole point of a reboot so the story isnt constrained by startrek canon timeline, now they have free reign to do whatever stories they want.

Exactly. It means they don't have to disregard good plots in order to adhere to Star Trek canon. Where would be the suspense if we knew in advance the crew survive?

i got a question , if this is a prequel , and Vulcan went Kaput if we then go to Start Trek I - The Motion Picture ( isnt Spock on Vulcan planet ? ) or the next movie is going to put them back to the "correct timeline"

Switching back to the original timeline would be too confusing for the new audience, although it would be necessary for a TNG/Voyager era sequel.

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bobbba

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I saw it yesterday and I was pretty disappointed, it wasn't awful, it just lacked originality. I wish they didn't go for the "whole universe at stake" scale of story again and again. The beginnings of James T Kirk and the Enterprise would have been interesting enough for me without resorting to end of all life as we know it. The whole time travel thing has been done so many times before it makes watching star trek a ground hog day experience for me.

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Hupp

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i got a question , if this is a prequel , and Vulcan went Kaput if we then go to Start Trek I - The Motion Picture ( isnt Spock on Vulcan planet ? ) or the next movie is going to put them back to the "correct timeline"

I did enjoyed the movie except for the guy they put as the russian one :p ( come on at accent sucked )

its a new timeline and a newstart; so the other movies really dont matter anymore. I'd imagine the whole point of a reboot is to keep this timeline going back to the other one would be a horrible mistake and waste of what this movie did.

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TheDreamX

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Seen it, absolute rubbish I'm afraid. Star trek is now officially an american teen, action soap, directed by morons who I doubt have ever watched an episode.

LOL what the hell have they done to the romulans? Vin diesel tattoos?

Black hole bombs? Shoot first and be damned attitude?

Sorry, that was not Star Trek, that was dumbed down over glossed CGI tosh to rake in the cash. In other words, exactly what I was expecting....

FINALLY! I'm glad someone else gets it. This was a poor use of the franchise. If it had been called "Space Trek" then I would be fine with it. Nothing about this movie felt like Star Trek in any way. I even went to see it again after everyone and their mother told me how wrong I was. Still frustrated me to no end the second time through.

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Malkii

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Do I need to have any beforehand knowledge before I can go into the theatre? Like how what races are there in the Star Trek universe? Or what the Enterprise is? Or why the heck pointy eared Sylar is with the normal eared people?

No it's not Star Trek other than by name so just go for it, or better still buy yourself a 6 pack and enjoy the evening instead :D

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Malkii

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FINALLY! I'm glad someone else gets it. This was a poor use of the franchise. If it had been called "Space Trek" then I would be fine with it. Nothing about this movie felt like Star Trek in any way. I even went to see it again after everyone and their mother told me how wrong I was. Still frustrated me to no end the second time through.

Precisely! Great specialFX/CGI and some nice space battles with loads of other action, but it wasn't Star Trek other than the fact they called it that and used the familiar names and terminology ;)

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unimatrixzer0

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Ok, so I just got back from seeing the movie. So stuff like what happened to planet Vulcan and Spocks mom, that doesn't happen in the original timeline right? So the movie basically branches off into its own alternate timeline?

Based on the stardate of Spocks ship where exactly in the future trek timeline would that have put him? After Nemesis or before?

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Jiggah

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Ok, so I just got back from seeing the movie. So stuff like what happened to planet Vulcan and Spocks mom, that doesn't happen in the original timeline right? So the movie basically branches off into its own alternate timeline?

Based on the stardate of Spocks ship where exactly in the future trek timeline would that have put him? After Nemesis or before?

After Nemesis, they have prequel comics that explain some of the plot points to tie this movie with the original series and TNG. Things like how did Nero know about Kirk and what not is given in the comics, too.

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Richard Hammond

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FINALLY! I'm glad someone else gets it. This was a poor use of the franchise. If it had been called "Space Trek" then I would be fine with it. Nothing about this movie felt like Star Trek in any way. I even went to see it again after everyone and their mother told me how wrong I was. Still frustrated me to no end the second time through.
Precisely! Great specialFX/CGI and some nice space battles with loads of other action, but it wasn't Star Trek other than the fact they called it that and used the familiar names and terminology ;)

Why dont you people get it, this is EXACTLY what JJ and Paramount were going for, this is a complete reboot and wasnt for the fans of Star Trek, it was to use the name to get people who previously thought Trek was far too nerdy/geeky for them to go and watch it.

JJ said from the start this wasnt a film for Trekkies.

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Sandor

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Seen it, absolute rubbish I'm afraid. Star trek is now officially an american teen, action soap, directed by morons who I doubt have ever watched an episode.

LOL what the hell have they done to the romulans? Vin diesel tattoos?

Black hole bombs? Shoot first and be damned attitude?

Sorry, that was not Star Trek, that was dumbed down over glossed CGI tosh to rake in the cash. In other words, exactly what I was expecting....

i think you're describing star wars there actually.

i thought it was a pretty good effort overall. not as good as the motion picture or first contact but a good bit better than the past couple. i'd call myself a fairly casual ST fan. i like TNG and voyager and watch the movies. i liked it.

my dad is a star trek buff and always has been. he loved the film. he pointed out some of the story and wording contained a lot of in-jokes and stuff you'd need to have watched TOS to understand. i haven't really so i missed that. perhaps you did too...doesn't mean its dumbed down because you don't fully get every last bit of it.

as for the effects...its a star trek movie...what do you expect? the way they did the effects like going to warp was modern but also had some retro feel to it. the same with the ship itself and engineering for example.

the characters seemed well selected too and in keeping with their originals.

and what have they done to the romulans? were you really expecting the square shoulder pads and helmet hair styles? if so, then it would appear you've not actually watched the original series (which is where this is set). in that the romulans look essentially the same as spock. considering star trek needs to actually reach out to new audiences you probably wouldn't get too far if the "baddies" looked the same as one of the main "goodies".

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Malkii

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Why dont you people get it, this is EXACTLY what JJ and Paramount were going for, this is a complete reboot and wasnt for the fans of Star Trek, it was to use the name to get people who previously thought Trek was far too nerdy/geeky for them to go and watch it.

JJ said from the start this wasnt a film for Trekkies.

Wow, this is becoming painful! You can't be this stupid??

I have already said that the film was exactly what I expected ( we all knew what was coming ), my point is that I don't like it and it failed dismally, it IS NOT Star Trek, how hard is it to understand that?

It is not Star Trek so why call it that? Call it Space Wars or Star Fail, anything but Star Trek!

One more time, this is not Star Trek remade for the masses, it is something else entirely.

/me walks of shaking his head

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Jiggah

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Thank god, it wasn't what you wanted in a Star Trek movie.

The past couple of Trek movies played out using the same old formula for a Trek movie and utterly failed. Diplomacy...yea right.

This was needed for the franchise, whether you like it or not. If you wanted Star Trek to continue in any other manner and make it relevant, it had to be accessible to the public, not just the trek fans.

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Richard Hammond

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Wow, this is becoming painful! You can't be this stupid??

I have already said that the film was exactly what I expected ( we all knew what was coming ), my point is that I don't like it and it failed dismally, it IS NOT Star Trek, how hard is it to understand that?

It is not Star Trek so why call it that? Call it Space Wars or Star Fail, anything but Star Trek!

One more time, this is not Star Trek remade for the masses, it is something else entirely.

/me walks of shaking his head

You post like you are posting on behalf of the masses, you are in the minority in this thread of people who dont like it, there are many self confessed Trekkies/Trekkers who have posted in here saying the film is great, there are many people who arent Trekkies/Trekkers who have posted saying it was a great film, just because you dont like it doesnt mean everyone else doesnt like it.

I dont appreciate the insinuation that im stupid just because i dont appreciate the crap you are spewing.

The film IS Star Trek it says so in the titles no amount of verbal diahorrea by yourself is going to change the name of the film, it has stars, it has a trek, it has kirk, it has spock, it has the enterprise, it has the federation, it is Star Trek.

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Sandor

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Wow, this is becoming painful! You can't be this stupid??

I have already said that the film was exactly what I expected ( we all knew what was coming ), my point is that I don't like it and it failed dismally, it IS NOT Star Trek, how hard is it to understand that?

It is not Star Trek so why call it that? Call it Space Wars or Star Fail, anything but Star Trek!

One more time, this is not Star Trek remade for the masses, it is something else entirely.

/me walks of shaking his head

you clearly have a well formed idea about what this film should have been to be "worthy" of the star trek name.

so please enlighten us about what you'd have done?

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duntkno

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Wow, this is becoming painful! You can't be this stupid??

I have already said that the film was exactly what I expected ( we all knew what was coming ), my point is that I don't like it and it failed dismally, it IS NOT Star Trek, how hard is it to understand that?

It is not Star Trek so why call it that? Call it Space Wars or Star Fail, anything but Star Trek!

One more time, this is not Star Trek remade for the masses, it is something else entirely.

/me walks of shaking his head

hmm nahh... its star trek. Great movie! :)

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