simple wireless router question

[HTF]

hi

easy question you guys, does a wireless router need to be conncted to atleast one computer(through ethernet cable) for it to work??

if not it must be something else i'm missing.

thanks

[night_stalker_z]

You might need to connect it to one ethernet computer so that you can enable wireless if it is disabled.

[Corris Veteran]

While I don't know if it is a necessity on older ones, the ones I have seen don't and mine doesn't.

But I did need to sort the security and such like through the PC first.

[HTF]

well i just bought a belkin wireless router and i hooked it up, and on my computer it said that it was connected, but i couldn't sign on my instant messanger, and my browers wouldn't conect to the net.

[night_stalker_z]

You probably need to configure it with your ISP details to get on the internet.

[tunafish]

you will need tobe cabled into it to set up the router settings etc then after that you can use wifi

[HTF]

ok ill try those things, also i noticed when it was hooked up that the speed of the wireless connection was 54mbps, and when i had my wired router the speed was 100mbps. why is that? did i get a slow router or what??

thanks for all the help

  tunafish said:

you will need tobe cabled into it to set up the router settings etc then after that you can use wifi

ok, i just read that on another forum. that must be it. lol i always miss some little important detail. :rolleyes:

[tunafish]

did you follow the instrutions in the mnual and use the CD?

[HTF]

ok i just did everything the manual said step by step. and it went through the whole thing, until the last part, where it tests the connection to the internet, it fails that. and thats with it hooked to the computer through ethernet cable. and when i plug it into my wired router it works fine.

[tunafish]

So your saying the routers not getting a internet connection?

[HTF]

apparently, it says in my network connections that its connected. but the software is telling me it can't connect to the internet

[randy_tho]

So you can't get to the internet on wired or wireless?

If so make sure you have the WAN side of the router configured with your modem properly.

What type of config do you have on the WAN (Internet) side? Manual/DHCP/PPP ?

[HTF]

ok i currently have verizon dsl(DHCP) with a westtell wirespeed modem, and a wired dsl/cable router(dynex) which is what i have been using and works fine.

I bought a belkin wireless G router. i followed the manuals instructions, which had me plug an ethernet cable from the westell modem to wan port of the router, then a ethernet cable going from the router to my computer. then the power, then it says to insert cd and follow instructions on there. so i did, it then checked my computer, then my hardware, then examined the connection from the router to my computer, then it configured, then it checked for internet connection.

everything went fine except the internet connection.

[randy_tho]

What happens when you try a web page? Sounds like you might have a software firewall or possibly verizon blocking ICMP Ping outbound. ??

Try connecting the WAN port of the new wireless router to your dynex router and connect the computer to the Belkin. Let DHCP set things up on all sides. It shouldn't make a difference since Verizon is assigning via DHCP but if they are locking your IP to the Dynex MAC or something then it might work.

What IP is assigned to your computer when you are connected to the belkin? The dynex?

[HTF]

the web pages act as if i have no internet.

i tryed connecting the way u suggested, and it did the same thing. except i noticed when i did that, the internet light on the router lit up(its never done that before)

the belkin ip is 192.168.2.3 and the dynex is 192.168.0.100

[randy_tho]

The internet light on the Belkin lit up when you plugged it into the dynex?

Um. ok. What about the other end? Do you get a link light on the LAN side of the other device?

Possibly a crossover cable issue? Do you know if the cable you are using from the modem is straight or cross?

Connecting as I said before. With your computer as IP 192.168.2.3. Can you ping 192.168.0.1 or access the dynex config panel?

You may have to have the dynex powered on and then with the belkin plugged in run the setup sequence again.

[tunafish]

i take it the wirespeed modem is the device that connects into the phone line or to the out going cable?

If thats the case, plug that directly into the belkin router. Then give everything a reset

[j.r.l.]

  HTF said:

ok ill try those things, also i noticed when it was hooked up that the speed of the wireless connection was 54mbps, and when i had my wired router the speed was 100mbps. why is that? did i get a slow router or what??

thanks for all the help

ok, i just read that on another forum. that must be it. lol i always miss some little important detail. :rolleyes:

The bandwidth of 802.11g is 54mbps (Wireless-G). It's the technology's limit, in theory you won't be getting much higher than 20-30mbps due to overhead.

[TurboTuna]

We can't help you untill you start posting model numbers of your devices. You're probably double natting. Post Make and model numbers of your devices and somebody will be able to give you more help

[HTF]

  tunafish said:

i take it the wirespeed modem is the device that connects into the phone line or to the out going cable?

If thats the case, plug that directly into the belkin router. Then give everything a reset

yes, the wire speed is what verizon provided for me, and its what the phone line plugs into. if you mean plug the phone line directly into the belkin, there is only ethernet plugs on the back of the belkin.

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The bandwidth of 802.11g is 54mbps (Wireless-G). It's the technology's limit, in theory you won't be getting much higher than 20-30mbps due to overhead.

well then that stinks, what kind of wireless router would give me better speed??

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We can't help you untill you start posting model numbers of your devices. You're probably double natting. Post Make and model numbers of your devices and somebody will be able to give you more help

sorry about that, the belkin wireless G router model # F5D7230-4. ver 7001. serial # BE701166929.

The westell wirespeed dsl modem model #890210015-04

[Roger H. Veteran]

ok well your modem is probably only 8Mbps so 54Mbps is already faster than what your internet can provide. There is the N routers that cost a ton but they will provide 140-300Mbps but that's NOT your internet speed, just the speed you are connected to the router. Fact is, the ethernet speeds are still 100Mbps so you wont get more than that also. The speed will only be handy if you're connecting 2 wireless devices to the same network and sharing files (or if you have a 1000Mbps/1Gbps router)

As for getting stuff t work, you probably need to log into the wirespeed and copy the info to your Belkin. You can then turn off DHCP on the wirespeed and let your Belkin manage your internet connection.

[HTF]

but my speed before on my dynex wired router was 100mbps, and having it drop to 54mbps seems like a big drop.

[HyBry]

  HTF said:

well then that stinks, what kind of wireless router would give me better speed??

How fast is ur connection?

100Mbit on hard line and 54Mbit on wireless are theoretical max speeds of the device, but in the reality the bottleneck is the ISP and the service you have...

U sure you have net connection faster than 54Mbit?

Edit:

what shows up on ur PC as connection is not the speed of you connection but the max speed between the PC and the device it connects - router.

[HTF]

yes speed is 100mbps on my dynex wired router

[Volatile]

Modems usually "marry" themselves to the first Mac encounter. You should turn off your modem, wait a tad.. turn it back on... hook up the wireless router.. wait for it to power up.. then turn on your computer (wireless or wired) to connect. A router should not need a wired computer to setup or run right out of the box. If you have done manual configuration THEN a wired connection may be necessary to fix any issues.