I really want to get an iPod Touch!

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Gavin001

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Can you use any headphones on the iPoT or do they have to be Apple Headphones? Just wondering if it has the same unusually deep headphone jack like the iPhone which prevents you from using any other headphones apart from Apples.

i felt the same i really wanted an iPod touch for the touch and the WiFi but i fuuuuukin hate iTunes grrrrr

and no u dont need apples headphones like the iPhone the iPod touch uses any headphones i using the Sony ex90's i think it is atm :)

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Actually something on the typing front, once you get used to it, and trust the correction system it works pretty fast. I was able to take notes in a lecture, and the prof talks damn fast. You just have to believe in the system that it will correct you along the way without you having to correct yourself even if you see mistakes.

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Actually 14GB is only 2101 songs. And yes, I do listen to them all the time. I already have two other 20gb players that I use, though they're getting pretty old now.

I listen to all these songs on random on my iTunes library when I'm on my laptop, so I would like to do the same thing for when I go mobile. I don't like picking and choosing specifics from the bigger list, because then one day I'll be on the road and wish I had that one song I didn't put on it.

Something that I don't think people really realize or think of is you can use the YouTube App to Stream Music Vids of virtually any song and thus increasing your music abilities on the iPod Touch. You can get fresh content via YouTube so while you may be limited in capacity you aren't in ability via the YouTube app. Now if they would just get flash to work right to play www.pandora.com on the go.

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i felt the same i really wanted an iPod touch for the touch and the WiFi but i fuuuuukin hate iTunes grrrrr

and no u dont need apples headphones like the iPhone the iPod touch uses any headphones i using the Sony ex90's i think it is atm :)

Woohoo! Can't wait to buy mine now =D

Do you use a Remote? I'd hate to have to bring it out all the time to change track =/

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Something that I don't think people really realize or think of is you can use the YouTube App to Stream Music Vids of virtually any song and thus increasing your music abilities on the iPod Touch. You can get fresh content via YouTube so while you may be limited in capacity you aren't in ability via the YouTube app. Now if they would just get flash to work right to play www.pandora.com on the go.

You're kinda missing the point. No one wants to spend time turning on Wi-Fi, search for the song & wait for it to load to listen to one track. Takes too long & not very practical.

I too love mine but also waiting for a 32/64 gig model.

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CyberManifest

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You're kinda missing the point. No one wants to spend time turning on Wi-Fi, search for the song & wait for it to load to listen to one track. Takes too long & not very practical.

I too love mine but also waiting for a 32/64 gig model.

1st, I wouldn't say "No one"; because I do. 2nd, Wi-Fi is always on once you set it up. 3rd, you don't wait for the entire song to download to start listening to it, it loads as you stream. 4th, It seems more practicle to me than to load only a limited select amount of songs on a tiny capacity drive that is shared with other information and data than not have any alternative. It's also more practical in the sense you aren't limited to exsisting content you have, your open to a wider range of content that doesn't consume precious disk capacity (or at least not in the significance of comparison).

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CyberManifest

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You're kinda missing the point. No one wants to spend time turning on Wi-Fi, search for the song & wait for it to load to listen to one track. Takes too long & not very practical.

I too love mine but also waiting for a 32/64 gig model.

1st, I wouldn't say "No one"; because I do. 2nd, Wi-Fi is always on once you set it up. 3rd, you don't wait for the entire song to download to start listening to it, it loads as you stream. 4th, It seems more practicle to me than to load only a limited select amount of songs on a tiny capacity drive that is shared with other information and data than not have any alternative, or than to not purchase an iPod Touch for such reason. It's also more practical in the sense you aren't limited to exsisting content you have, your open to a wider range of content that doesn't consume precious disk capacity (or at least not in the significance of comparison).

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Lqv2015

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1st, I wouldn't say "No one"; because I do. 2nd, Wi-Fi is always on once you set it up. 3rd, you don't wait for the entire song to download to start listening to it, it loads as you stream. 4th, It seems more practicle to me than to load only a limited select amount of songs on a tiny capacity drive that is shared with other information and data than not have any alternative, or than to not purchase an iPod Touch for such reason. It's also more practical in the sense you aren't limited to exsisting content you have, your open to a wider range of content that doesn't consume precious disk capacity (or at least not in the significance of comparison).

I'll give you all of that but having Wi-Fi on will drain your battery within an hour of music listening. Plus, if you're an audiophile, YouTube sound quality isn't the best if you have hi-end earphones.

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Jase

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I told my friends about the iPod Touch and now we are all getting one!!

Just wondering.. if we have 3 iPods and want to share things with each other.. is that possible? - Without wires.

Also We are thinking of only getting the 3gb model, is there any difference or slowdowns between the 8 GB and the 16 GB? - Remember if you have a full Hard drive on your computer you will experience UI slowdowns.. Is that similar with the ipods?

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CyberManifest

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I'll give you all of that but having Wi-Fi on will drain your battery within an hour of music listening. Plus, if you're an audiophile, YouTube sound quality isn't the best if you have hi-end earphones.

Wi-Fi is already always on, it's only used when nessisary; Apple stats show that the iPod Touch gets over 18 hours playback time on music; there's no way wifi can reduce this down to 1 hour, even 1/2 of that is still 9 hours. Do some research and read about Apple's earbuds and how they were developed and what materials were used, you'll be surprised to find they had audiophiles in mind. And YouTube sound fluxs, it depends on the stream and the encoded bit rate wich is somtimes higher than 128kbps (what itunes store songs are released at) Sound Quality can be great, it's dependant on factors such as encoded bit rate and streaming rate and distortions in power flux and Radio Interferance and Electro Magnetic Interferance, too many impurities to mention to distort ANY audio source.

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CyberManifest

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I told my friends about the iPod Touch and now we are all getting one!!

Just wondering.. if we have 3 iPods and want to share things with each other.. is that possible? - Without wires.

Also We are thinking of only getting the 3gb model, is there any difference or slowdowns between the 8 GB and the 16 GB? - Remember if you have a full Hard drive on your computer you will experience UI slowdowns.. Is that similar with the ipods?

Full Hard Drives usually constitute slowdowns due to fragmentation. I have and only experienced the 16 GB version so I can't coment on the comparisons. As for wireless transfers I can't really think of a way off the top of my head, aside from e-mailing each other content via the built in e-mail feature. I haven't done a lot of exploring to know if you can share libraries in the Music feature like you can in iTunes (but even that your restrained to look and listen but not copy.) I imagine Apple would like to bleed every last red cent they can get out of you and thus don't allow or have anything available to share content wirelessesly (to each man, his own purchase of whatever content).

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CyberManifest

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I told my friends about the iPod Touch and now we are all getting one!!

Just wondering.. if we have 3 iPods and want to share things with each other.. is that possible? - Without wires.

Also We are thinking of only getting the 3gb model, is there any difference or slowdowns between the 8 GB and the 16 GB? - Remember if you have a full Hard drive on your computer you will experience UI slowdowns.. Is that similar with the ipods?

Full Hard Drives usually constitute slowdowns due to fragmentation (not usually an issue with solid state storage ASFAIK). I have and only experienced the 16 GB version (wasn't aware of a 3GB model) so I can't coment on the comparisons. As for wireless transfers, I can't really think of a way off the top of my head, aside from e-mailing each other content via the built in e-mail feature. I haven't done a lot of exploring to know if you can share libraries in the Music feature like you can in iTunes (but even with that your restrained to look and listen, but not copy.) I imagine Apple would like to bleed every last red cent they can get out of you, and thus don't allow or have anything available to share content wirelessly (to each man, his own purchase of whatever content). I supose you could upload content to a server of some sort and all of you access the content wirelessly through safari; or perhaps upload the content to YouTube and everyone access the content via YouTube... *shrug*

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Hell-In-A-Handbasket

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they are locked, not as a cell, but what apps they can run. i unlocked mine so i could modify the software

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The Newton was Apples Mistake in the PDA Market. my Touch is now what the Newton should be.

Explain what you mean?.. Newton?.. Better?.. Why do you need to Jailbrake the iPods its not like they are locked on a plan :s
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I agree that this is a must buy had one and was playing about with it for a while and I just ordered it yesterday should be here tomorrow or the day after. Really excited bout it and cannot wait :D

they are locked, not as a cell, but what apps they can run. i unlocked mine so i could modify the software

touch1.pngtouch2.pngtouch3.png

The Newton was Apples Mistake in the PDA Market. my Touch is now what the Newton should be.

I believe my friends was "jailbroken" :s He was able to install custom apps on it and I was VERY impressed by what he had installed and done.

Just a few questions if you don't mind...

1) If i do "jailbreak" it is there any risk of bricking it how big is that chance and will I lose the warranty or what not?

2) Is there a website where I can find any community created apps like my friend had something along the lines of "iPhysics" and Chess..

3) Will doing any of the above disable any features?

4) Is it possible to direct me to somewhere where I may learn how to do this or get the software necessary?

Thanks in advance :)

Sorry if you are not allowed to explain how thats done here on Neowin and if thats the case pm me if its not too much trouble :)

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Hell-In-A-Handbasket

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1. cant "brick" it that im aware of, if somethign goes wrong just power off/on while holding the home button and it will reset it. RESEARCH FIRST

yes you will "Temporarily" loose the warrenty, before sending it back/support. reset it by holding down the home button ( youll have to rejailbreak though)

2. alot of the apps are intalled through Installer.app using sources ( think Linux ), or Remoting into the Touch itself ( using SSH capable FTP client, i use CyberDuck on my Mac and CuteFTP on my windows machine)

3. no it will not disable any features, unless you install services.app then you can disable what you want

4. what is required to jailbreak depends on what firmware you have, but a generic google search for - touch jailbreak - will point you to various places. there is also a dedicated section for Jailbreaking on the iLounge.com Forums

1) If i do "jailbreak" it is there any risk of bricking it how big is that chance and will I lose the warranty or what not?

2) Is there a website where I can find any community created apps like my friend had something along the lines of "iPhysics" and Chess..

3) Will doing any of the above disable any features?

4) Is it possible to direct me to somewhere where I may learn how to do this or get the software necessary?

Thanks in advance :)

Sorry if you are not allowed to explain how thats done here on Neowin and if thats the case pm me if its not too much trouble :)

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Hell-In-A-Handbasket

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i say Temp loose warrenty as Apple wont support it due to the Modified Software. But Resetting it back to Factory will solve that.

Thanks that was helpful just one more question what do you mean by it will temporarily lose warranty? After i restore it will it regain warranty?
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Actually 14GB is only 2101 songs. And yes, I do listen to them all the time. I already have two other 20gb players that I use, though they're getting pretty old now.

I listen to all these songs on random on my iTunes library when I'm on my laptop, so I would like to do the same thing for when I go mobile. I don't like picking and choosing specifics from the bigger list, because then one day I'll be on the road and wish I had that one song I didn't put on it.

but thats 320kbps~ roughly for all tracks? -V0 VBR would be much better and you'll get much more music on there.

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