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I plan to get one of the GDDR5 4870's at launch...unless they somehow are an epic failure. So far I'm liking what I am hearing though. As usual, unlike Nvidia, ATi is using new tech, dx10.1, 55nm, GDD5 plus onboard sound and the new implementation of UVD.

If the 4870 GDDR5 can perform close to on par with the 9800GX2(withing 20 or so percent on average), draw less power than the 260 GTX and cost less than $350 I think it will be the card to buy.

can't wait to get rid of my 8800 tgx and get one of the 4870 (x2). epic failure stupid piece of **** nvidia card driving me nuts.

Whoa, what's wrong with your current 8800GTX? It used to be the second fastest single GPU video card on the market.

I plan to get one of the GDDR5 4870's at launch...unless they somehow are an epic failure. So far I'm liking what I am hearing though. As usual, unlike Nvidia, ATi is using new tech, dx10.1, 55nm, GDD5 plus onboard sound and the new implementation of UVD.

If the 4870 GDDR5 can perform close to on par with the 9800GX2(withing 20 or so percent on average), draw less power than the 260 GTX and cost less than $350 I think it will be the card to buy.

I would say that the lack of DX3D 10.1 is more a political choice on Nvidia's part than anything.

Yeah but for a two year old card it has held up pretty well.

Indeed. The 8000 series from NVIDIA stood true to the test of time.

Well it looks like hell has frozen over and an Nvidia chip won't be on my next graphics card.

This ATI part has DX10.1 support (G200 doesn't) and it also has faster memory and appears to be better priced.

Fail Nvidia.

ATI is smart this time around. They're already at the forefront of GPU technology and the prices for their new video cards are very good. NVIDIA's grave mistake was to make their video cards overpriced.

Looks like ATI has deceived everyone and RV770 actually has 800 Stream Processors, 40 TMUs, and 16 ROPs. Radeon HD 4850 will have a core clockspeed of 625MHz (which gives it exactly 1 TeraFLOP of processing power), while Radeon HD 4870 will ship with a 750MHz core clockspeed (giving it 1.2 TeraFLOPs of power). Radeon HD 4850 will sell for $199 with 512MB of GDDR3 and Radeon HD 4870 will go for $329 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory. For comparison, GeForce GTX 280, priced at $649, offers 933 GigaFLOPs of shader power.

From early benchmarks and estimates, it would seem that two Radeon HD 4870 cards in CrossFire (roughly ~$660) should have no problem whatsoever defeating a single GeForce GTX 280 ($649 MSRP), and dual Radeon HD 4850 cards (~$400) will most definitely beat a single GeForce GTX 260 ($399 MSRP).

As for R700, the dual-RV770 beast, it will apparently be released in August and should finally give the single-card performance crown back to ATI. Just thinking about the power of R700 is ridiculous: 1,600 Stream Processors and 2.4 TeraFLOPs (assuming it ships with the same 750MHz clockspeed as Radeon HD 4870) of processing power!!! :woot:

Edited by NextGen_Gamer

A price of $199 for a card that'll give you performance between an 8800GT and 8800GTX is well worth it. NVIDIA is going to be in big trouble once the HD 4850 is released on the 25th of June.

I think it's slightly less powerful than a HD 3870X2. After all, that's only Crysis (DX10). We'll have to see how it performs in other games. At least we know it has strong DX10 performance.

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