SP3 + Remote Desktop = no go

[Ashiaveli]

Hey guys,

I installed SP3 since my SP2 install was showing symptoms of crapping out, and I was curious. Everything works great, even my wifi is more stable. The issue I'm having is that I can't connect to a remote server because the server says I need remote desktop 6.0 or higher. I downloaded 6.0 and it gives me the error of having a newer version, I'm assuming 6.1. So I can't connect with 6.1 or install 6.0.

Are there any alternatives or ways to roll back 6.1 to 6.0?

Thanks.

[Buzz99]

Teamviewer is way better than remote desktop. Free for non-commercial use.

[Ashiaveli]

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Will it connect to a Windows Server?

EDIT: Just downloaded/installed. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but they have to have TeamViewer as well? I need to connect to a windows server.

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  Ashiaveli said:

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Will it connect to a Windows Server?

EDIT: Just downloaded/installed. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but they have to have TeamViewer as well? I need to connect to a windows server.

Yes, or they can run the QS module.

Is this the only time you are going to connect to this computer? Or will you be doing it multiple times?

[Ashiaveli]

I connect frequently to it for work. We collaborate over an ACT database and it's a terminal server.

Do I connect as VPN because none of options connect. Microsoft Remote Desktop connects and the server gives me the version error so I know that it is the right IP I'm putting in.

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Then install either teamviewer or logmein on the server and you're golden. No reason to worry about the Remote Desktop issues.

[Ashiaveli]

Only issue with that is that I don't have access to the server, so I can't install anything on it. I can basically just connect to it and work on it.

So I'm assuming I'm screwed with this. No way to roll back RDP and there are no alternatives that don't require installation on the server?

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  buzz99 said:

Teamviewer is way better than remote desktop. Free for non-commercial use.

thankx a lot

i tried it and it work fine on my xp and now i am going to try it on vista

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  Ashiaveli said:

Only issue with that is that I don't have access to the server, so I can't install anything on it. I can basically just connect to it and work on it.

So I'm assuming I'm screwed with this. No way to roll back RDP and there are no alternatives that don't require installation on the server?

Does the RD connection give you permission to install?

If so, you could RD in from a different computer, then install teamviewer or logmein.

[Ashiaveli]

I don't have permission to install any applications. Basically, I can't change anything on the server.

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  Ashiaveli said:

I don't have permission to install any applications. Basically, I can't change anything on the server.

Well then I suppose you have two options.

Go back to SP2 and don't upgrade (not what I would recommend) or get a virtualization program (like VMWare) and install SP2 on a virtual machine and use that.

The other option is to get whoever does manage the server to update it to the latest remote desktop.

[+BudMan MVC]

What version of server are you trying to connect too? I can connect to 2k3 r2 using the SP3 client no problem.

As to an alternative to connect to remote desktop -- sure you could use a java remote desktop client

http://www.elusiva.com/opensource/

the above would could be used like this

java -jar c:\download\javaRDP14-1.1.jar 192.168.1.4

Where 192.168.1.4 would be the IP address of the server your trying to remote desktop too

C:\>java -jar c:\download\javaRDP14-1.1.jar

0 [main] INFO com.elusiva.rdp.RDPClientChooser - RDPClientChooser

0 [main] INFO com.elusiva.rdp.RDPClientChooser - RDPClientChooser.RunNativeRDPClient

Elusiva Everywhere: A server name is required!

Elusiva Everywhere version 1.1

Usage: java com.elusiva.rdp.Rdesktop [options] server[:port]

-b bandwidth saving (good for 56k modem, but higher latency

-c DIR working directory

-d DOMAIN logon domain

-f[l] full-screen mode [with Linux KDE optimization]

-g WxH desktop geometry

-m MAPFILE keyboard mapping file for terminal server

-l LEVEL logging level {DEBUG, INFO, WARN, ERROR, FATAL}

-n HOSTNAME client hostname

-p PASSWORD password

-s SHELL shell

-t NUM RDP port (default 3389)

-T TITLE window title

-u USERNAME user name

-o BPP bits-per-pixel for display

-r path path to load licence from (requests and saves licence from server if not found)

--save_licence request and save licence from server

--load_licence load licence from file

--console connect to console

--debug_key show scancodes sent for each keypress etc

--debug_hex show bytes sent and received

--no_remap_hash disable hash remapping

--quiet_alt enable quiet alt fix

--no_encryption disable encryption from client to server

--use_rdp4 use RDP version 4

--log4j_config=FILE use FILE for log4j configuration

Example: java com.elusiva.rdp.Rdesktop -g 800x600 -l WARN m52.propero.int

Here is the connection to a 2k3r2 server using the java client.

But the client that comes with XP sp3 can connect just fine to XP, 2k3, 2k3r2 etc. What are you trying to connect to exactly -- you just state "server"

[biles]

You can go back to version 5 of remote desktop. Check out this blog post http://www.righteoushack.net/?p=14 I did this when I ran into problems and so far i have not had any issues.

[Ashiaveli]

I'm trying to connect to 2k3 but I know that the server requires 6.0. On SP2 with RD 6.0, I had no issues. It does connect but the server tells me to upgrade to 6.0.

[Cyber Nemesis]

I prefer Terminals, also free. Can do RDP, ICA, SSH, VNC and a host of others. Has tabbed viewing and auto screen resizing options.

http://www.codeplex.com/Terminals

Runs from a .EXE folder and does not require install.

[biles]

  Ashiaveli said:

I'm trying to connect to 2k3 but I know that the server requires 6.0. On SP2 with RD 6.0, I had no issues. It does connect but the server tells me to upgrade to 6.0.

Referring to my previous post, the files in the NTUninstall folder should be whatever was on your computer just prior to upgrading to sp3. If you had version 6.0 then version 6.0 of mstsc will be in that folder. In my case I had version 5. Go into that folder and go to properties of mstsc.exe and then go to the version tab and check if it is 6.0. If it is, that that procedure should work for you.

[Ashiaveli]

I actually didn't upgrade. I used a slipstreamed XP cd with SP3 loaded on it.

  Crash.Override said:

I prefer Terminals, also free. Can do RDP, ICA, SSH, VNC and a host of others. Has tabbed viewing and auto screen resizing options.

http://www.codeplex.com/Terminals

Runs from a .EXE folder and does not require install.

First alternative that actually connects but I still get the "requires remote desktop 6000 or newer" error.

Btw, thanks for all the help guys.

[Ashiaveli]

  BudMan said:

What version of server are you trying to connect too? I can connect to 2k3 r2 using the SP3 client no problem.

As to an alternative to connect to remote desktop -- sure you could use a java remote desktop client

http://www.elusiva.com/opensource/

the above would could be used like this

java -jar c:\download\javaRDP14-1.1.jar 192.168.1.4

Where 192.168.1.4 would be the IP address of the server your trying to remote desktop too

C:\>java -jar c:\download\javaRDP14-1.1.jar

0 [main] INFO com.elusiva.rdp.RDPClientChooser - RDPClientChooser

0 [main] INFO com.elusiva.rdp.RDPClientChooser - RDPClientChooser.RunNativeRDPClient

Elusiva Everywhere: A server name is required!

Elusiva Everywhere version 1.1

Usage: java com.elusiva.rdp.Rdesktop [options] server[:port]

-b bandwidth saving (good for 56k modem, but higher latency

-c DIR working directory

-d DOMAIN logon domain

-f[l] full-screen mode [with Linux KDE optimization]

-g WxH desktop geometry

-m MAPFILE keyboard mapping file for terminal server

-l LEVEL logging level {DEBUG, INFO, WARN, ERROR, FATAL}

-n HOSTNAME client hostname

-p PASSWORD password

-s SHELL shell

-t NUM RDP port (default 3389)

-T TITLE window title

-u USERNAME user name

-o BPP bits-per-pixel for display

-r path path to load licence from (requests and saves licence from server if not found)

--save_licence request and save licence from server

--load_licence load licence from file

--console connect to console

--debug_key show scancodes sent for each keypress etc

--debug_hex show bytes sent and received

--no_remap_hash disable hash remapping

--quiet_alt enable quiet alt fix

--no_encryption disable encryption from client to server

--use_rdp4 use RDP version 4

--log4j_config=FILE use FILE for log4j configuration

Example: java com.elusiva.rdp.Rdesktop -g 800x600 -l WARN m52.propero.int

Here is the connection to a 2k3r2 server using the java client.

But the client that comes with XP sp3 can connect just fine to XP, 2k3, 2k3r2 etc. What are you trying to connect to exactly -- you just state "server"

This method gets me to the login screen (yay) only when i don't put the port number after the IP. I'm going to contact the administrator and tell him to add 6.1 to the filter list. I think this is the easiest solution and requires the least work

Just tried and MS's RD gets me to the login screen when I don't put the port number (i.e. xx.xx.xx.xx:XXXX).

Thanks again.

[+BudMan MVC]

Not sure what your babbling about -- the java client connects just fine if you set the port ie ipaddress:port but if your using the default port there is no reason to specify it.

The other alternative is not really an alternative -- its just some eye candy to your current client.

Terminals is a multi tab terminal services/remote desktop client. It uses Terminal Services ActiveX Client (mstscax.dll).

What "filter list" are you talking about?

[Ashiaveli]

The error I get has the title "Client Version Filter - Active".

[+BudMan MVC]

There is no Client Filter in a default setup.. Let me guess your server is running secureRDP from http://www.2x.com/securerdp/download.html

Your issue has nothing to do with SP3 client update, your issue is that software not being configured correctly.

Have the admin of that server update the software config to allow the new client number.

[Cyber Nemesis]

There is also an ongoing issue where the /console option is upgraded (removed) See here:

https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServer...edbackID=341289

Just wonder if this ties into whatever you are doing.

[+BudMan MVC]

No that has nothing do with his issue, his issue is some 3rd party software being used on the server. the updated client in sp3 has no problems connecting to any servers remote desktop.. Just use the /admin switch on the new client to connect to console.

[67flyer]

  Ashiaveli said:

Hey guys,

I installed SP3 since my SP2 install was showing symptoms of crapping out, and I was curious. Everything works great, even my wifi is more stable. The issue I'm having is that I can't connect to a remote server because the server says I need remote desktop 6.0 or higher. I downloaded 6.0 and it gives me the error of having a newer version, I'm assuming 6.1. So I can't connect with 6.1 or install 6.0.

Are there any alternatives or ways to roll back 6.1 to 6.0?

Thanks.

Adding a SP will not help a system that is "showing symptoms of crapping out". It will probably cause other issues. A system reload maybe in order.

[Ashiaveli]

Yup. As I posted a few posts back, I did a fresh reinstall with SP3 included.

Everything works now guys, admin just added 6.1 to the active client list.