iNFUSiON Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Hey guys ok well I have gone over the cap on my net...yes...we all kno how annoying it is. Now ever since we got his new laptop it sometimes when starting up the comp... (running XP) when the lil bar is going from side to side with the xp splash screen it feezes on that. Now he thinks its because i have gone over the cap and the speeds been reduced. But I need to prove to him that no internet does not affect the starting up of the computer. please bring me some solid evidence to prove him wrong. like his side is pretty muh saying a person with no internet could not start up their comp. please help em guys, if you can find some insane article that is credible that would rollhim lol this would be great. also he might be redcuing my net space and i def dont want that :p thanks guys Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Your computer will not connect to the internet until a user clicks his name and logins into windows. There is no internet connectivity what so ever whilst your windows is loading. Simple way to prove it I guess would be to go to another computer that loads windows and disconnect the cable, and your windows shall still load fine =/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589396517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted May 13, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 13, 2008 At that point your computer has no awareness of the internet. No drivers are loaded for the network yet, and the connection settings you will use are part of Windows, and hence not loaded yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589396526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emohawk Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 turn the router off and see what happens? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589401292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmax Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 remove the lan cable connected to his network card. boot windows and plug it again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589401296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bobcat_ Veteran Posted May 15, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 15, 2008 I agree ^ but I'd say to turn off everything net related so he can't stomp around claiming it was still the internet. And watch the hard drive fail when you do it :p It's possible he was brought up on mainframe type things, where you had dummy terminals that were literally just input/output for the one single machine. I know a few like this and it's *really* hard to get them to think of their computers as being independent from the server. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 15, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 15, 2008 The worse that will happen if you have an Ethernet connection is that an error will come up. The Internet does not have anything to do with the startup of an OS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted May 15, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 15, 2008 Good grief, what does he think computers were used for before the Internet? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 15, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 15, 2008 Good grief, what does he think computers were used for before the Internet? :blink: Pac Man :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nite Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I would assume that his laptop has a button to turn on/off the wireless card, correct? If so, press the button so the light goes out (this means it's off), and unplug any ethernet cables attached, if applicable. Then explain that he is in no way, shape, or form connected to the internet, and have him reboot the laptop. If the bar freezes, this should prove to him that it's not the internet that's doing it, but something being loaded during startup. This can help him better understand the boot process for NT Based systems (NT, 2000, XP, etc.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_startup_process Pac Man :laugh: Actually, that would be Doom. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted May 15, 2008 MVC Share Posted May 15, 2008 Pac Man :laugh: Nope, Pong. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted May 15, 2008 MVC Share Posted May 15, 2008 while the internet directly won't effect the starting of the computer, sometimes if it has a hard time getting an IP address, that can sometimes cause a slower boot than normal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nite Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 while the internet directly won't effect the starting of the computer, sometimes if it has a hard time getting an IP address, that can sometimes cause a slower boot than normal. That takes effect after the login has been completed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 15, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 15, 2008 while the internet directly won't effect the starting of the computer, sometimes if it has a hard time getting an IP address, that can sometimes cause a slower boot than normal. Not if your using a dial-up. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Nope, Pong. :D Lawl. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589402867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 As everybody else has said here, loading up your OS wont touch the net untill you login into an account BUT something like spyware running as a service or whatever may create connections to the net - just a random idea. I would also tell him that hes too retarded to use the laptop from now on. GE Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589404291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_walters Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 That takes effect after the login has been completed. No it doesnt, how would a PC log in to a domain without an ip address..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589411925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 It sounds like a driver problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589411931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Nomads Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 "No it doesnt, how would a PC log in to a domain without an ip address..... " I somehow doubt that they have a domain setup. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636675-does-internet-in-any-way-affect-starting-up-your-os/#findComment-589421441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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