_bobcat_ Veteran Posted May 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 16, 2008 We don't really know what their aims are, but I suspect they want to make money from as many people as possible. Therefore they need to keep their service as inoffensive to as many people as possible. :laugh: i hope so Why? .....He's probably one of those gay people that feel the need to defend themselves any chance they get and treat everyone like crap because any small comment is turned into a civil rights issue. They really are females trapped in male bodies.... I don't have anything against gay people because it is a waste of time trying anything, plus, if they are happy, just let them be. Everybody deserves to be happy and orientation doesn't matter. Now, I was raised a certain way so I am not exactly advocating homosexuality but I also am not going to try to beat down on a person for being gay....that's just immature. Just women? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 You can't blame people for feeling the way they do because they were raised to think like that. Or came to the belief independently of how they were raised which I think is true for most people. I'm not anti-gay either, I just think different opinions on sexuality are normal and natural. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Just women? Maybe, but I doubt if he implied something negative about men you would have made a snarky comment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bobcat_ Veteran Posted May 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 16, 2008 I wouldn't need to, plenty of others would jump in before me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 As long as he doesn't have to pay for the name change, then whats the big deal. It's just a gamertag. It's not the end of the world to have to change it. Also, for those of you talking about the "correct" definitions of words here is a little bit of knowledge: Language influences dictionaries, not the other way around. Words are continually changing "formal definitions" based on how they are used in everyday language. As long as the word's meaning is universally understood and agreed upon, then it has effectively changed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Go find out what the word 'Gay' means.It was hijacked by homosexual Men. Gay means happy, so the user name is happier than gay. Yet again, you got morons telling us what to do. So true! The fact of the matter is that MANY words in the English language have dual meaning and have NOT changed because someone made an arbitrary decision that the derogatory meaning (of a word) is the only use or meaning of that word! Strewth! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Guy Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Here's the thing. If Microsoft's own policies don't determine the name to be offensive then it should stand. If players have a problem with it then they can deal with their own ignorance and find someone else to play with. Microsoft should develop and stick to their own guidelines and rules otherwise the players out there will find something wrong with a lot of the names out there and it will get out of control. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duritz Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Why do you hope so? :s Ugh, I have to correct myself on this one. I didn't read the article, and therefore I didn't know he was actually gay. I thought he used the name as a derogatory statement against homosexuals. My bad! I take back my "hope so" statement!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I wouldn't need to, plenty of others would jump in before me. i think often a lot of women have certain affects and men have certain affects, and many people of both genders don't. you know, men acting macho, or women acting girly. i dont think its wrong when people say gay men often have female affects. gay people often admit that themselves. other gay men don't have any affects. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaZoR Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Whilst Microsoft can do whatever they want. I've seen plenty of anti-atheist gamertags, and they're not classed as offensive. Yet anti-religious is. One sided all the way baby! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I agree with him having to change it... I do hope that he does not have to pay for the name change. On that note.. I do believe that he was trying to go out of his way for "some" purpose when he chose that for his gamertag. I just hope that it remains fair across the board... I do not need to know the sexual preference of any player on live... gay or straight... I am all for the dont ask dont tell gamertag Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hahaha. Should have banned instead! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 It's MS's service and they can change whatever they want, if he didn't like what they did then he doesn't have to subscribe the service. I am fine with him being gay or whatever, but it's like kicking lion in his nuts you're inviting trouble. Also as far as I see they did really good job telling him what the problem is and what the next procedure is. It wasn't Microsoft who had the problem but it's the community that had a problem with the name. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdomine Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Whilst Microsoft can do whatever they want. I've seen plenty of anti-atheist gamertags, and they're not classed as offensive. Yet anti-religious is.One sided all the way baby! Okay... so... why would you have anything against atheists? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Guy Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hahaha. Should have banned instead! Would you like to elaborate on your homophobic opinion or is there a different reason for banning the name? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 16, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 16, 2008 If MS does not have an issue with the user name then it should be aloud. If it was a slang term for Gay then I could see the name being banned. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey_snake Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 In a realm where Master Chief humps dead bodies, this is probably unnecessary. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I was wondering what he ment by gayer and serched online, here's what I found it's pretty much the same thing as being gay. But whatever it is community say's they didn't like the gamertag and should be changed then so be it. gayplayadj. gay?er, gay?est 1. Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex. 2. Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. 3. Bright or lively, especially in colora gay, sunny room.i> 4. Given to social pleasures.5. Dissolute; licentious. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted May 16, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 16, 2008 I assumed that once i called Microsoft they would straighten things out. So to speak... But really I think this is an overreaction probably by someone at MS. They didn't clarify the meaning of "gay", they didn't stand by the reasoning that it is not actually insulting. Would I be allowed to be called "StraightGamer"? If so - where's the difference? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted May 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 16, 2008 ...Would I be allowed to be called "StraightGamer"? If so - where's the difference? I guess the difference in the number of complaints and the harassment issues. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 :laugh: i hope so I wouldnt normally agree but in this case I do with my reason being his addition of this sentence I hope I'm not the only person who finds this don't ask, don't tell policy disgusting... eek as MarkJensen stated on the 1st page, hes making it sound like some big civil rights issue or whatever and it really isn't. That sort of whining gets up me, and he should have known it'd be controversial to begin with so I don't really have any sympathy in this case. I'd be inclined to feel more sorry for him if he come off as approaching it with a slightly more leveled perspective. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 It is important to note that Microsoft has not proactively censored his name, rather, enough people used the feedback system to report his gamertag and, upon evaluation from Microsoft, that is why he is being forced to change it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
non.sequitur Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 It has the potential to be severely abused, and by blocking it Microsoft if protecting the community from this abuse and themselves from an otherwise inevitable lawsuit . Maybe the lawsuit comes because they ARE blocking it? I guess they can't win. Who knows... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589405361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbrello Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I wonder if that name is caps-sensitive. If so, he could have some fun. Additionally, I think what Microsoft did was absurd. As said before, there are many meanings to the term 'gay'. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589406190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Additionally, I think what Microsoft did was absurd. As said before, there are many meanings to the term 'gay'. It wasn't Microsoft's initial decision. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/637296-gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live/page/2/#findComment-589406303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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