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The last time i really used KDE was when using Redhat distro , even before Fedora was released. It never really grew on me but had LOTS of options to tweak and I wasn't familiar with configuring Gnome (like i didn't even knew how to edit gnome-menu at that time). and at one time i was real fan in 1999-2001 i think, when i use to make KDE bar fully transparent and it looked 'modern' .

KDE 3.* UI design for me is/was like bunch of kids fighting and eating crayons then spitting on a paper. and i wont even go with those crash noises (i know can be disabled) and the dragon (kde logo/mascot?) popping up now and then.

I read ALL the hoopla of KDE4, plasma, oxygen and all that from past year and even read Linus Torvald's slam Gnome-usability guys for being rigid in accepting tips and dumbing down the UI for user (but hey it works,anyway) and Linus admited he is KDE user and wants gnome to learn from KDE. Still that didn't sway me away from Gnome, Cause i really have got Hang-of Gnome and things like Compiz have now been able to put Gnome in another orbit making it look modern and more usable.

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Today. I am using Fedora9 for past days and i had a thought, 'what the hell, lets install KDE ( *sick* ) and lets see.' so i simply went [# sudo yum groupinstall "kde" ] and it installed (approx 280mb).

I feel KDE 4 is extremely rough in terms of finishing touches on GUI and its layout. but i can see where they want to grow and it looks promising for Linux users . if i knew right places to tell KDE gui guys,. I would like to point them out below screen shot's and hope they sharpen out these v rough edges.

and can any KDE users here give tips to enhance my kde-experience?, i want to give it some try.

* how to make firefox look better. its looking ugly. (i guess its not using oxygen properly, howto fix?)

* I think there is kcomposite which enables animations without need of compiz, if so, how to do that thing? (Googled, its not snappy and smooth on my shared ram Intel agp but okayish)

* where is add-remove app for KDE? would you recommend any apps to enhance kde experience? ( i think there isnt any particular kde App and i should use one provided b fedora9)

* how to install theme's, I downloaded Falco (deviant art) theme files (massive ~20mb files think they are source) how to install them, its tar.gz file. Edit (nevermind it needs lots of packages i see in requirements , why isnt kde4 by default like that? nevermind..)

* anyone got experience with http://raptor-menu.org/ ?

Regards,

Kyro.

PS: The kde-tasbar at bottom readjusted later when i again tried making it small,large etc.

and i know i must edit my signature soon for fedora 9.

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this is exactly why i don't use KDE, its a GUI mess right from the start. Gnome looks so much better, even when its standardised.

Go back to Gnome or Xfce, KDE doesn't even look good when its customized, KDE was one of the most irritating things that put me off linux in general.

i really can't see how people work on KDE, its like a retarded Luna GUI all over the bloody place. good luck :D

for making firefox look at least bearable u gotta install the qt-gtk package for kde4 which used to be installed with kde 3.5.x

and yes, kde needs a lot of work.. it looks like a rip-off of OSX+Vista in many ways

I use KDE 3.5 (Kubuntu 8.04_, but I installed KDE 4 when I was running Ubuntu, and I didn't care for it too much, as the taskbar was gigantically huge.

I'll probably go to KDE 4 at some point, but not until 4.1 or later.

There are a lot of things I do like over Gnome though, at least with 3.5 - I find it more polished and better looking. (YMMV).

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