Mac OS X Snow Leopard Discussion

[Rudy]

Not really... I think they're done adding major stuff. What we'll see now are under-the-hood things... or a new QuickTime icon lol

They have like 2 months left to finalize things, so they better not start something new and never finish it in time.

I know they had their secret builds in Apple's HQ that they kept for themselves, but I think what we see now is really where they are right now, as compared to before when we knew they had something much different in their laboratories. (especially when we took a look at the WWDC build and realized that Dock Expos? wasn't there).

They don't have 2 months left;)) It's almost August and they do have to send it to get the DVDs pressed:))

[Quillz]

I'm still not a fan of Screen shot [date] at [time]. Dunno why, I just preferred the older builds that displayed as Screenshot on [date] at [time]. The new format also creates a needless space at the end, before the file extension.

[seta-san]

the only thing more finely tuned about this operating system is that they are dropping support for IBM PowerPC based macs.

[.Neo]

Yes, that's the only thing they've changed.

[Brendando]

Yeh, I totally agree guys, Snow Leopard is just dropping supper for PPC, what douches, lol111!!

[/sarcasm]

I hope for your sake your joking. Did you even read the first post of this topic? Grand Central? OpenCL? 64-Bit? God...

[Death Proof]

can someone post the filetype icons found in the new Quicktime

[StandingInAlley]

I was hoping for a new theme :/

[.Neo]

I was hoping for a new theme :/

Won't count on a whole new theme. Maybe some updates here and there.

[PyX]

Yes, that's the only thing they've changed.

LOL that really made me laugh

This comment.... especially coming from you :p

The guy didn't bother getting information at all about Snow Leopard. Sad thing is, it is so easy to get it from apple.com, not that this website is a labyrinth either, it's one of the best "marketing" websites I've ever known in fact...

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I always agreed with what you said btw (even back in Leopard's betas era) : I wouldn't count on a new theme either. The current one has a robust look, it's simple and it's not really demanding graphically. It's ergonomic and everything, colour-wise, size-wise, they don't need to change it. Plus, they've already changed the dock menus a lot, grid Stacks, as well as Expos?'s way of displaying things.

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I still hope my service icons will be back in the contextual menus. It was so much nicer than just plain white menus...

[.Neo]

Well I still hope the default Aqua elements that have remained largely the same since Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah will be replaced entirely or at least refreshed (as in changes that are actually noticeable without putting old and new ones side by side in Photoshop).

But oh well, I've been hoping for that since Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. I have no real reason to think it will happen with Snow Leopard.

[KoL Veteran]

Hopefully the new wallpapers on the final version are better. The quality of those walls are really bad. They should hire a photographer like Microsoft did with Vista. This guy is really really good.

Edited July 27, 2009 by KoL

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Well I still hope the default Aqua elements that have remained largely the same since Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah will be replaced entirely or at least refreshed (as in changes that are actually noticeable without putting old and new ones side by side in Photoshop).

But oh well, I've been hoping for that since Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. I have no real reason to think it will happen with Snow Leopard.

It'd have to be a slow upgrade process, Aqua today still resembles Aqua of 8 years ago.

Overhauling the entire theme and replacing it in a single upgrade would break some apps and cause others to have mismatched visual styling.

[Quillz]

It'd have to be a slow upgrade process, Aqua today still resembles Aqua of 8 years ago.

Overhauling the entire theme and replacing it in a single upgrade would break some apps and cause others to have mismatched visual styling.

How would replacing the Aqua scroll bars with the matte-style ones break application compatibility?

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

They wouldn't, as that's a fairly gradual change (for the worse imo)

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

They wouldn't, as that's a fairly gradual change (for the worse imo)

For the better imho. Snow Leopard using iTunes-style scrollbars by default would be great.

[.Neo]

Overhauling the entire theme and replacing it in a single upgrade would break some apps and cause others to have mismatched visual styling.

Simply replacing the remaining original Aqua elements like scroll bars, confirmation buttons, radio buttons, checkboxes, sliders, pop-up menus etc. with updated ones won't break application compatibility. Not sure where you got that idea from.

When Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard was released plenty applications had mismatched visual styling, so they got updated fairly quickly by their devs. I don't see the problem here.

Edited July 27, 2009 by .Neo

[thertrain]

I would love to see the subtle changes that have popped up in the past few Builds to be "feelers" for a full upgrade that is ready and waiting. With a lack of complaints, dropping one more build before RTM that contains a full overhaul, would really cause a feeding frenzy and build major word of mouth promotion about the update. :woot:

[.Neo]

With previous Mac OS X releases it was very obvious they were in beta. Especially Tiger and Leopard were pretty unstable and had their fair share of issues. With Snow Leopard it's hard to tell what still needs work. Overal the OS seems just as stable as Leopard but responds much much quicker.

[PyX]

When Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard was released plenty applications had mismatched visual styling, so they got updated fairly quickly by their devs. I don't see the problem here.

Yeah, noticed this too...

I always wondered about something... if Apple updates the scrollbars in the entire OS X system for instance, it won't be updated in usual applications (non-skinned applications like Microsoft Messenger, Safari, etc.). This means one thing to me : every graphic is embedded into each applications. Scrollbars, sliders, radio buttons... Which leads to redundancy. (I swear I've seen every aqua element in png format in iTunes. Now I don't see it anymore.)

Why don't they just remove all this useless stuff and when Apple decides to update something, then every app gets updated automatically, by fetching into the Core of OS X instead of fetching in the Resources folder of their apps? If something's wrong, developers will be able to push an update, but right now they NEED to push an update to make stuff consistent. If an app has to be skinned, then yes the Resources folder will be useful and have priority over the Core of OS X...

Or maybe they did this with Snow Leopard, and that's 1 of the multiple explanations to why app sizes were all reduced by couple of MB?

[.Neo]

I always wondered about something... if Apple updates the scrollbars in the entire OS X system for instance, it won't be updated in usual applications (non-skinned applications like Microsoft Messenger, Safari, etc.).

Yes it would... I replaced my scroll and progress bars with the ones from Aqua Extreme and they're being used system-wide by practically all applications.

This means one thing to me : every graphic is embedded into each applications. Scrollbars, sliders, radio buttons... Which leads to redundancy. (I swear I've seen every aqua element in png format in iTunes. Now I don't see it anymore.)

That's not the case. Only a small number of applications carry their own Aqua-replacements inside their package contents. iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD etc. are examples of this. Applications like Microsoft Messenger and most others use the Aqua elements provided by the OS.

Edited July 28, 2009 by .Neo

[sn00pie]

Their will be some significant visual changes with Snow Leopard, its just we haven't seen any of them yet ;)

[suspiria]

Their will be some significant visual changes with Snow Leopard, its just we haven't seen any of them yet ;)

Tell me the winning lotto numbers

[sundayx Veteran]

Tell me the winning lotto numbers

Just hand me the money.

[PyX]

Yes it would... I replaced my scroll and progress bars with the ones from Aqua Extreme and they're being used system-wide by practically all applications.

Thanks God, it makes more sense like that.

I remember opening the iTunes subfolders and saw usual Aqua elements in a folder and lots of them, was just wondering why... now I can't find them anymore. Oh well !

[.Neo]

They're bundled inside iTunes.rsrc. Why? iTunes had to carry all of those interface elements inside its own package contents because Mac OS 9 didn't feature Aqua. Absolutely clueless why it's still that way today. No idea what the role of those new matte scrollbars are in the first place.