Mac OS X Snow Leopard Discussion

[Quillz]

Resolution Independence wasn't removed from Leopard, it's just enabled only in specific circumstances (and it's buggy and slow because it's unfinished)

What's in Snow Leopard would be much better.

So then... it's finished in Snow Leopard?

[.Neo]

Apparently there are still spacing issues here and there, also seen in the above screen shot.

I'm a bit amazed by the fact how fast the system is on my 2009 Mac Pro. However, why does System Profiler say "No" under 64-bit Kernel and Extensions? :o

[Quillz]

Apparently there are still spacing issues here and there, also seen in the above screen shot.

I'm a bit amazed by the fact how fast the system is on my 2009 Mac Pro. However, why does System Profiler say "No" under 64-bit Kernel and Extensions? :o

Because it's not turned on by default, and I believe this will remain so in the gold master of Snow Leopard.

You're supposed to turn on your Mac and hold down the "6" and "4" keys to activate the 64-bit kernel mode.

[.Neo]

Why isn't it turned on by default? I though Snow Leopard was all about being fully 64-bit and stuff.

Edit Managed to boot my Mac into full 64-bit mode the way you described. Are there any downsides to this, compared to using a 32-bit kernel? Maybe driver related stuff?

[Quillz]

Why isn't it turned on by default? I though Snow Leopard was all about being fully 64-bit and stuff.

You'd think so. Now there are reports that the 64-kernel isn't even supported on the original Mac Pro models.

You know, the ones Apple touted as being "64-bit Unix workstations."

[.Neo]

On the bright side Apple included drivers for my Canon MP540 which actually show ink levels and notice that it's a scanner as well.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

will this activate it perma, or is it only activated when you do this, and only when.

would kinda blow if you had to do a key combo to do it

Because it's not turned on by default, and I believe this will remain so in the gold master of Snow Leopard.

You're supposed to turn on your Mac and hold down the "6" and "4" keys to activate the 64-bit kernel mode.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

So then... it's finished in Snow Leopard?

No idea, I'm not in the program to get the builds.

I would assume spacing issues and theme issues would have been worked out (in leopard most controls were vector drawn when scaled, apart from scrollbars, which were rasters)

I think it'd get much faster if QuartzGL was enabled by default for everything as well.

[.Neo]

will this activate it perma, or is it only activated when you do this, and only when.

would kinda blow if you had to do a key combo to do it

Apparently you'll boot with a 32-bit kernel by default. By holding the [4] and [6] keys after you hear the start up sound you'll boot with a 64-bit kernel. You can go back to 32-bit by holding the [2] and [3] keys when booting.

Would be nice if someone knew the actual reasoning behind this and what potential downsides are to using the 64-bit kernel.

Edit I just noticed that all the QuickTime 7 Pro "Pro" features are locked again until you fill in your registration. I expected this would happen.

Edited August 14, 2009 by .Neo

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Running a 64bit kernel stops you from running any 32bit kernel extensions (drivers, etc.)

The Xserve's default to the 64bit kernel because there's a lot less chance of people plugging consumer hardware into those.

Well, that's what I assume anyway, it does make sense with the hybrid setup they're going for.

[.Neo]

Makes sense I guess.

Looks like all Macs before January 2008 and all Mac mini + MacBook models are out of luck.

[giga Veteran]

That list doesn't really tell the whole story. My 13" MBP can boot the 64-bit kernel, yet it's not listed.

[.Neo]

Doesn't really surprise me since it's a MacBook Pro as well, never than 2008. They probably haven't added it to the list yet.

[.Neo]

Apple made a mistake. The French instructions are still the ones from Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. Makes me wonder if they'll actually ship this one as GM.

[dyn]

Am I the only one that likes the little aqua bits? :laugh:

-Rich-

I like the blue aqua theme as well because it makes the OS a bit more lively. Using graphite or the scrollbars from iTunes makes it a very boring grey OS. That would be more like going back in time when we had black/white screens. I think having some color in the OS will make it more pleasant to use.

[willdev]

Have they updated bootcamp in snow leopard?

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Have they updated bootcamp in snow leopard?

Snow Leopard comes with Boot Camp 3.0.

[willdev]

Snow Leopard comes with Boot Camp 3.0.

Nice, is there a list of new features or is it just driver updates and better support for w7?

[Vice]

Snow Leopard comes with Boot Camp 3.0.

What's different about the new version?

[NeoXY]

What's different about the new version?

Yes, I'd like to know as well. Can't seem to find any info online.

Have anyone installed the supposed GM build yet? Its been leaked. Just wondering what the experience is like currently. I have some extra time this weekend, I'm considering transitioning to SL if the GM build checks out...

[ThehAWKs]

I just did the update to snow leopard build 10A432 since it was said to be gold master, i thought i would have a hard time getting it running. but it was even easier then the last build.

i noticed a few changes on installing 10A432 build, it's more stable and a bit faster then the last my geekbench score went up from 13199 (Build 10A421a) to 14315 (Build 10A432)

[.Neo]

They have to be ****ing kidding us... What the hell is wrong with Microsoft?!

Edited August 14, 2009 by .Neo

[ThehAWKs]

They have to be ****ing kidding us... What the hell is wrong with Microsoft?!

Rosetta is not installed by default mount your dvd and install it

[giga Veteran]

I think his complaint is that Office requires Rosetta..

[.Neo]

I think his complaint is that Office requires Rosetta..

Bingo! ;)