Mac OS X Snow Leopard Discussion

[Rudy]

Kinda stupid to fix your application to be intel and leave the installer as PPC

[ThehAWKs]

Office always required Rosetta the only difference is that in Snow Leopard you have the choice to install it or not.

Bingo! LOL

[Quillz]

They have to be ****ing kidding us... What the hell is wrong with Microsoft?!

More like "what the hell is wrong with Apple in not installing Rosetta by default?"

Just because it's Microsoft doesn't mean it's evil.

[.Neo]

It's been almost 4 years since the switch to Intel, plus an additional 6 months for them to prepare. If Adobe manages to bring out two Universal Creative Suites in that time span you'd think a company like Microsoft should be able to do the same.

More like "what the hell is wrong with Apple in not installing Rosetta by default?"

Just because it's Microsoft doesn't mean it's evil.

Microsoft Office 2008 shouldn't be relying on Rosetta anymore in the first place. Period.

[Quillz]

I think his complaint is that Office requires Rosetta..

Isn't that because Office is a Universal Binary? Something that Apple encouraged all developers to do?

[wctaiwan]

No. Universal binary makes an app not require Rosetta. It's the non-Universal apps that need it.

wctaiwan

[.Neo]

Isn't that because Office is a Universal Binary? Something that Apple encouraged all developers to do?

Universal Binary means an application should be capable to run fully native on both PPC and Intel architectures. On Intel Macs that translates into without the help of Rosetta...

[Quillz]

No. Universal binary makes an app not require Rosetta. It's the non-Universal apps that need it.

wctaiwan

Oh, well then it seems Office 2008 was developed for PowerPC, then. Don't see what the big deal is, frankly. Rosetta installs quickly and runs invisibly.

[willdev]

Anyone got any info about bootcamp 3.0?

[Quillz]

Anyone got any info about bootcamp 3.0?

All I know is the drivers are much better. Both the trackpad and wireless keyboard work much better on Windows than they did before.

[Simon Veteran]

More like "what the hell is wrong with Apple in not installing Rosetta by default?"

Just because it's Microsoft doesn't mean it's evil.

Personally, I'm quite happy that Rosetta is now optional. Saves a bit of space that was rarely used... except, apparently, for using the Office installer.

The installer script shouldn't even be that complex...

Oh, well then it seems Office 2008 was developed for PowerPC, then. Don't see what the big deal is, frankly. Rosetta installs quickly and runs invisibly.

They shouldn't be relying on emulation that was bound to be removed at some point. I've not used Rosetta since installing Leopard, I don't think, except for installing Office. It's just wasting space.

[+John. Subscriber¹]

Personally, I'm quite happy that Rosetta is now optional. Saves a bit of space that was rarely used... except, apparently, for using the Office installer.

The installer script shouldn't even be that complex...

They shouldn't be relying on emulation that was bound to be removed at some point. I've not used Rosetta since installing Leopard, I don't think, except for installing Office. It's just wasting space.

I agree. If they set out to try and minimize the footprint as much as possible, then removing Rosetta is a good idea. Hardly any mainstream or 'essential' apps use it these days, and it's a waste of space as stated.

[.Neo]

Anyone got any info about bootcamp 3.0?

The Boot Camp Assistant remained unchanged in this build. However, like Quillz mentioned, they improved driver support. Including drivers to read (read-only) HFS+ formatted drives from within Windows.

Not sure if they added Windows 7 support.

[Death Proof]

Including drivers to read (read-only) HFS+ formatted drives from within Windows.

I would love having these drivers, they would be a boon for my hackintosh.

[.Neo]

For arguments sake:

I work for Apple in London & i can confirm that build 10a432 is not the Golden Master it has just been given to select devs to test a few expert issues. 10A433 is on it's way (for server at least) and with uncomplete features like no prefs for quicktime and no default 64-bit for capable machines (i mean that not even the extensions are 64-bit by default). The installation has been polished and is being tested by the chosen devs. As i have heard there will be 1 or 2 more builds before it gets to golden master. There is still a bit of testing going on with the new bootcamp drivers but other than that it's basically there. i hope this corrects a few things, i'm not sure how pretty much the entire internet has got this wrong but none the less mistakes happen.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p...p;postcount=362

[Simon Veteran]

Well that would suck, but no one seems to be paying much attention.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

my MBP model is MacBookPro 2,1

acording to that list i cant run in 64bit even though i have a Core 2 Duo which is a 64bit proc ?

[.Neo]

Well that would suck, but no one seems to be paying much attention.

Yes, yes it would. However, everyone on the internet could claim they're working for Apple. The only thing we got going for this build is that it has been specially packed in a whole new DMG and hasn't been published through Software Update like every other build since WWDC.

However, there are some things in the DMG that worry me. The French install guide is still the one from Leopard and the Dutch welcome guide for example is in still English. Can't really imagine they'll put the OS out like that.

my MBP model is MacBookPro 2,1

acording to that list i cant run in 64bit even though i have a Core 2 Duo which is a 64bit proc ?

You can run 64-bit applications just fine. However the extensions and kernel will be 32-bit.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

well i was going to get 10.6, now im doubting i will

You can run 64-bit applications just fine. However the extensions and kernel will be 32-bit.

[.Neo]

Because...?

[ccuk]

For arguments sake:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p...p;postcount=362

If one genuinely worked for Apple, one wouldn't say so on a public forum and the divulge information like that. Whilst what he is saying is likely true... I just don't believe him. I will believe the shiny disk when it is sat right in front of me.

[what]

If one genuinely worked for Apple, one wouldn't say so on a public forum and the divulge information like that. Whilst what he is saying is likely true... I just don't believe him. I will believe the shiny disk when it is sat right in front of me.

Well no one would believe him if he didn't say he worked for Apple so it's a catch 22. But then again it is a rumours site so you have to take everything with a pinch of salt, and if you don't believe him then as you say, just wait for it to get confirmed before getting all excited.

[.Neo]

Exactly. I don't really care either way. If this doesn't turn out to be the the GM I'll just do a reinstall.

[Timan Veteran]

What did they do with the font smoothing? The text is **** now (Dell LCD) black text looks dark gray and small font is barely readable (seems less strong/bold).

Edited August 14, 2009 by PureLegend

[.Neo]

You can either turn it on or off. You can't set different levels anymore.