+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2008 Available on the Apple Developer Connection website: Safari 4 Developer Preview for Leopard, Tiger and Windows. To download it you need to register an ADC account (which is free). This preview release is English only. To avoid Safari displaying a hybrid UI when installing on a Mac with languages other than English, deselect other languages in "Safari Info" window displayed after selecting Safari in the Finder and choosing File > Get Info. On Tiger, Safari 4 Developer Preview requires a previously installed version of Safari 3.1.1. Download and install Safari 3.1.1 from http://www.apple.com/safari/download/. Please include "Safari 4 Developer Preview" in any feedback. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
azz0r_wugg Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Noticeable differences? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is the new javascript engine included in this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2008 Noticeable differences? UI-wise: none. Performance-wise: JavaScript is massively faster. On my machine a run of the SunSpider benchmark takes 2416 ms, compared to roughly 3500 ms for Firefox 3 and Safari 3.1.1. Is the new javascript engine included in this? Yes. Hence the JavaScript performance boost. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 UI-wise: none.Performance-wise: JavaScript is massively faster. On my machine a run of the SunSpider benchmark takes 2416 ms, compared to roughly 3500 ms for Firefox 3 and Safari 3.1.1. Yes. Hence the JavaScript performance boost. Think I might download this then and have a looksee. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is this Safari 3.1.1 with the latest webkit or something? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted June 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2008 On my sad Core Duo Macbook.. FF3 b2 Safari 4 Latest WebKit (with Safari 4 installed) (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 WebKit r34388 = 3222.4ms Firefox 3 = 3853.4ms Safari = 4645.4ms IE7 = 36858.2ms :laugh: Poor IE users I think I might download this and test it out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Downloaded now, thanks for this update. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2008 For the sake of completeness: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaabrysz Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 On my machine the SunSpider benchmark takes 2272.8 with Firefox 3 RC2 :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted June 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2008 On my machine the SunSpider benchmark takes 2272.8 with Firefox 3 RC2 :) Javascript speed is very dependent on your setup. Try it out with Safari 4? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2008 Might as well give it a whirl. I get 98/100 (Sometimes I got 97/100..) on the Acid3 page. So close. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaabrysz Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Javascript speed is very dependent on your setup. Try it out with Safari 4? Yes your right :) With Safari 4 i get 2034. But i love Firefox anyway :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Performance-wise: JavaScript is massively faster. On my machine a run of the SunSpider benchmark takes 2416 ms, compared to roughly 3500 ms for Firefox 3 and Safari 3.1.1. I don't get it... Firefox 3 here completes it in 2094.2ms. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted June 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2008 Different systems will get different speeds...:| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jgrodri Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 is it stable enough to run it as my main browser? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I don't get it... Firefox 3 here completes it in 2094.2ms. Run it on your mac with Safari 4 and see what you get? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiWanToby Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Will IE ever catch up, that is the question. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Run it on your mac with Safari 4 and see what you get? Sorry, I only noticed the posts about system speed after I made mine. On Safari 4 I get 1944.2ms: PS. I wish Safari would default to Windows Standard font smoothing as the current Medium setting is horrible for a lot of sites. That's always the first thing I change but many users won't know to change it, making life harder as a web developer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tantawi Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2008 UI-wise: none.Performance-wise: JavaScript is massively faster. On my machine a run of the SunSpider benchmark takes 2416 ms, compared to roughly 3500 ms for Firefox 3 and Safari 3.1.1. Yes. Hence the JavaScript performance boost. 2177.8ms Firefox 3 RC2, Windows Vista x64. Nice test, didn't known about it before (Y). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veedems Veteran Posted June 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2008 It performs better slightly better (4700ms) than Firefox Minefield (5200ms) and Opera 9.5 (5700ms) on my box, but the fact that it sticks out so sorely in the Windows environment is a no go for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Nevermind, here are my results: Sorry, Safari 4 is coming lol: Edited June 10, 2008 by Cormier6083 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589472783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Wow, here is Safari 4 Is it me or is Safari 4 really sluggish when browsing pages? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589473069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted June 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2008 Pretty Snappy? here, though I use WebKit. Anyhow--neat little feature that I overlooked. Web Apps! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/642444-safari-4-developer-preview/#findComment-589473081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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