Mass Effect - Problems Solved!

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HellasVagabond

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Ok i dont know how many in here have problems with MASS EFFECT but i found out why....This game likes to run the CPU at 90-100% continiously....That raises the temparture and locks the game....That results in BSODs and General Protection Faults....

I used to get those every 2-5 minutes.....I never thought of the temp cause Orthos never had a problem...However i never took under consideration the GPU heat...The card was burning and that raised the CPU temp even more...Although Orthos never went above 48 degrees now my CPU reached 59-65 degrees due to the heat by the rest of the system !

So i opened the chasis and placed a fan infront...Voila...From 65 the degrees fell to 52 and ive been playing for 3 hours straight WITHOUT problems...I hope this helps :)

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This sounds more like your hardware's problem than Mass Effect's problem. Obviously, any demanding game will stress your GPU and raise temperatures significantly. It seems like you didn't cool your system adequately to run it above a certain temperature.

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HellasVagabond

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Did you even read the post ? Stress testing a computer running at 4GHz and never getting above 48degrees with even 2xOrthos is your idea of inadequate cooling ?

Search for MASS EFFECT FORUMS and you will see that hundreds have the same problem...Its not a hardware problem, no game should CONTINIOUSLY use 95-100% of a CPU ( Both Cores or all 4 in a Quad ).

Even Crysis uses 50-60-70%....But never 100%. Its a game error but until they work it out my solution is this...Unless one has a water cooling system in which case he wont experience problems at all.

In any case just using the CPUs even at 100% wouldnt be a problem but this game also Stresses the GPU making it burn thus increasing the overall system temp.

PS : I could declock my CPU and put it at 3.0GHz thus having 37 degrees under full load with 2xOrthos but placing a fan is a better choice for me...1GHz isnt a small thing to waste....

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  HellasVagabond said:
Ok i dont know how many in here have problems with MASS EFFECT but i found out why....This game likes to run the CPU at 90-100% continiously....That raises the temparture and locks the game....That results in BSODs and General Protection Faults....

I used to get those every 2-5 minutes.....I never thought of the temp cause Orthos never had a problem...However i never took under consideration the GPU heat...The card was burning and that raised the CPU temp even more...Although Orthos never went above 48 degrees now my CPU reached 59-65 degrees due to the heat by the rest of the system !

So i opened the chasis and placed a fan infront...Voila...From 65 the degrees fell to 52 and ive been playing for 3 hours straight WITHOUT problems...I hope this helps :)

That is a problem with your hardware not with Mass Effect. I have played for 8 hours straight with no problems at all. It is in fact the one game I have not had even one crash with. Well not the only one just out of the few I am playing now.

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I used to get those every 2-5 minutes.....I never thought of the temp cause Orthos never had a problem...However i never took under consideration the GPU heat...The card was burning and that raised the CPU temp even more

That is still a cooling problem and NOT a problem with Mass Effect. If you do not have adequate cooling to pull the hot air out of your case then of course it will increase the temp of the CPU and GPU but you can't blame the game for that.

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Being stable on Orthos doesn't mean it will be stable everywhere. Orthos doesn't use every single instruction available, nor tests every forseeable possibilities. Being overclocked it's only natural that on these systems are more susceptible to imperfections. Also a game using 95-100% of the CPU isn't that hard to believe.

Also your GPU is also overclocked it isn't surprising that a game that stresses the GPU too it would make it go hotter than normal... I really don't see your point here.

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mass effect uses a teeny weeny bit of AI and lots of physics calculations, it doesn't surprise me it uses most if not all your cpu resources, it's one of these new gen console games developped with Threading in mind, what did you expect?

technicalities appart, see my sig below, I have no problems with my CPU (oc'ed) running at 58?C and GPU @ 68?C (stock) at once in this game, last session lasted 10 hours straight, cooling is good enough, of course if you oc like a madman heh you're just asking for problems

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CPU speed doesn't matter much once you hit 3GHz or higher anyway. At your point, GPU is more of a limiting factor when it comes to frame rate.

I would venture a guess that even if you lowered your overclock to say 3.2 or 3GHz your frame rates would barely take a hit.

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HellasVagabond

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Guys youre missing the point. I have problems ONLY with this game. The GPU doesnt lockup the game , the CPU does although with 64 degrees max it shouldnt, but it does.

In the MassEffect forums people with Stock cooling and Stock frequencies have the same issues. A game shouldnt require an extra cooling system to run thus its a game error and not a hardware error. Plus i have yet to see a game using 95-100% of a CPU Continiously and thats just wrong.

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Ya heating has been an issue with a lot of people and it isn't a hardware problem. I've been trying to fix some bugs and have seen tons of people complaining of this.

My computer is much slower than hellas' and I have no heating problem, so it isn't that the game is just "too hard to run."

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you said yourself that bumping up the cooling solved your issue, seeing how the game stresses up CPUs and seeing how much you've overclocked yours, I don't see why you would blame the game

64? is 2? shy of the max operating temperature for which the E8400 and E8500 are rated

if you're oc'ing by a factor of 35% and running so close to max specs don't be so surprised

High CPU useage, with a high voltage (I suppose you're close to 1.5v if not above) and high temperature, heck why the hell are you still asking? you're overclocking too far with little to no margin in cooling

The TR Ultra 120 Extreme is very good for quiet cooling but not sufficient for such an OC, and don't tell me again that orthos temperatures are of only 48?C, orthos does not stress all aspects of a CPU at once, run 1 instance of Prime95 per core in your system using the small FFTs and THEN you'll see what it really means to stress a CPU

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But thats the issue, not even Crysis manages to heat up the PC so much...Also Bioware has aknowledged the initialization problem and are working on it...Simply put NO GAME OUT THERE USES 95-100% A CPU ALL THE TIME. If thats not a glitch i dont know what is.

1.375v actually so no im not stressing the CPU that much.

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I'm sorry but I still don't see the problem. Any overclocked system is more susceptible to these kind of things. While Bioware has said there are bugs in the game, that doesn't mean cpu usage will be that lower,even if it goes down to what you consider normal, if your system can't handle working with both CPU and GPU at max load without having overheating issues, then you overclocked too much or you need better cooling.

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I've had a similar issue on my stock Dell XPS 410 with an 8800 GTX graphics card - if I play for 3-4 hours straight, eventually the computer locks up, and my fans are going at full speed. I think it's due in part of the puny 375 Watt PSU that's in the XPS 410 (I've ordered a nice 500 Watt replacement). I have found it rather odd that it stresses my computer more than Crysis, as the graphics and physics aren't nearly as sophisticated as the ones in Crysis. It could be all the texture/geometry swapping that's constantly going on all the time.

This is the only game I've had the overheating issue - Crysis, COD4, Bioshock, HL2 Ep. 2, you name it, they've all worked flawlessly without my fans going at full speed.

Odd...

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