Now LIVE on the PC is free..


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Do you think MS will do the decent thing and make XBL free?

Until today you had to pay the same sub as Xbox 360 owners to play games using the LIVE system, now that's been scrapped and it's free.

EDIT - already a post in PC section. Please close

I hope not, because then they won't put in the same level of investment we've seen so far that differentiates it from the rivals. The cost is very cheap for the service/performance you get, anyone that doesn't like it should stop being a cheap ass. Being free means they'll likely start outsourcing to Gamespy or whoever and we'll have to deal with the problems that brings and be wishing the subscription back.

edit oops also just seent he PC section post

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Hopefully eventually.

If they can support it free for PC users whom they'll be many more of, I'm sure they can support it for 360 owners at some point.

In fact I know they can, but the subscription model has just worked on consoles so far. There's no denying that but I hope as time passes it begins to look more and more outdated.

Hopefully eventually.

If they can support it free for PC users whom they'll be many more of, I'm sure they can support it for 360 owners at some point.

In fact I know they can, but the subscription model has just worked on consoles so far.

Not likely, every MP title on 360 uses Live, only a few select PC games use Live, so its far easier to support.

I personally think it's wrong that they are offering the same service for free on the PC.

Not really, Xbox Live is a lot bigger and better than Live for Windows. So sick of everyone complaining how much Live is. It barely costs anything and the service they provide with it is almost faultless. You either buy it or you don't! It won't be free!

Dont see it happening.

It works for them on the console, why change now?

PC was different, that was always free... to launch a service that charged a yearly fee on the PC was a dumb idea, even though it was compatable with the xbox.

Hopefully when the Wii online / PSN becomes more popular microsoft will feel pressured to offer the service for free.

I can see that transition happening at the launch of their next console... if they find it necessary.

The service / experience is great... dont mind paying a small yearly fee.

Beats dealing with friends codes or having to jump through hoops to get online.

Not really, Xbox Live is a lot bigger and better than Live for Windows. So sick of everyone complaining how much Live is. It barely costs anything and the service they provide with it is almost faultless. You either buy it or you don't! It won't be free!

So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.

It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking.

XBL should be free.

So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.

It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking.

XBL should be free.

Look who dragged up PS3! Was waiting how long you would take!

If anything, PSN has suffered so many more problems than Live, its quite simple that you get what you pay for. XBL should not be free. If you don't like it then simply don't buy it. You must be using a different Xbox Live to me as I barely have any problems with it. Last problem I had with it was after Christmas when it got overloaded and such but that was solved.

So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.

It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking.

XBL should be free.

Do you really like to get into arguments?:rolleyes::

So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.

It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking.

XBL should be free.

You pay ?40 for your 12 month Live subscrition:rofl:l:

Seriously, it equates to 11p a day. I don't understand the fuss. If you aren't happy with the service provided, then don't subscribe. It's as simple as that.

So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.

It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking.

XBL should be free.

P2P Really? Prove it I dont see my upload spiking....

?40 is cheap for a YEARS worth of service (Providing you have a job) and it is barely nothing, it has barely any downtime and a wide selection of titles... I'd call that almost faultless... Wait what was your argument again?

I dont care for fanboyism but seeing such blatent BS does provoke a response (I'd do it for any product I own if someone was spreading misinformation)

As long as it puts down the face of ignorance...

P2P Really? Prove it I dont see my upload spiking....

?40 is cheap for a YEARS worth of service (Providing you have a job) and it is barely nothing, it has barely any downtime and a wide selection of titles... I'd call that almost faultless... Wait what was your argument again?

I dont care for fanboyism but seeing such blatent BS does provoke a response (I'd do it for any product I own if someone was spreading misinformation)

As long as it puts down the face of ignorance...

I'm sorry mate, but he is right with that.

Live online gaming is a P2P network infrastructure. That's a fact.

Everything else, I don't really care, I've said my part in this topic, I'm not here to argue/provoke responses with anyone unlike some.

P2P Really? Prove it I dont see my upload spiking....

No need to prove it mate, it's fact. P2P is free in almost every other instance but XBL. As I've said, it's a bit of a rip off. ?40 (RRP) for 12 months P2P access isn't that great.

No need to prove it mate, it's fact. P2P is free in almost every other instance but XBL. As I've said, it's a bit of a rip off. ?40 (RRP) for 12 months P2P access isn't that great.

You've made your point clear dude, no need to keep saying it.

It will only start to annoy people.

Servers are being hosted by players, involuntarily and voluntarily. This may seem a bit daft considering the price-tag of Xbox Live - But in all my years of gaming, I really haven't experienced any real problems with this type of hosting. I'm on a 20/2 connection and I'm chosen as host constantly in Call of Duty 4, does that bother me? Not at all. I have tons of unused bandwith so might as well use it, then you can also have local players connecting and get an even better ping than normal. Unlike a dedicated which are usually based in key places around the world or at server-farms where Denmark is usually quite far away, so I don't mind at all.

No need to prove it mate, it's fact. P2P is free in almost every other instance but XBL. As I've said, it's a bit of a rip off. ?40 (RRP) for 12 months P2P access isn't that great.>

Why would anybody pay that much for Live, ouch. No wonder you post something like this when you pay that much.

If you actually shop smart, it is easy to pick up great deals on Live. I just bought 13 months for $40 with free shipping two days ago.

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