popisdead uk Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Do you think MS will do the decent thing and make XBL free? Until today you had to pay the same sub as Xbox 360 owners to play games using the LIVE system, now that's been scrapped and it's free. EDIT - already a post in PC section. Please close Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_ Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 (edited) Do you think MS will do the decent thing and make XBL free?Until today you had to pay the same sub as Xbox 360 owners to play games using the LIVE system, now that's been scrapped and it's free. EDIT - already a post in PC section. Please close I hope not, because then they won't put in the same level of investment we've seen so far that differentiates it from the rivals. The cost is very cheap for the service/performance you get, anyone that doesn't like it should stop being a cheap ass. Being free means they'll likely start outsourcing to Gamespy or whoever and we'll have to deal with the problems that brings and be wishing the subscription back. edit oops also just seent he PC section post Edited July 23, 2008 by Si_ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I am pretty sure they won't make it free on Xbox 360 also! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted July 23, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hopefully eventually. If they can support it free for PC users whom they'll be many more of, I'm sure they can support it for 360 owners at some point. In fact I know they can, but the subscription model has just worked on consoles so far. There's no denying that but I hope as time passes it begins to look more and more outdated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hopefully eventually.If they can support it free for PC users whom they'll be many more of, I'm sure they can support it for 360 owners at some point. In fact I know they can, but the subscription model has just worked on consoles so far. Not likely, every MP title on 360 uses Live, only a few select PC games use Live, so its far easier to support. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 I personally think it's wrong that they are offering the same service for free on the PC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I personally think it's wrong that they are offering the same service for free on the PC. Compare the game libraries of the 360 and GFW... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildliquid Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 of course after i buy another year subscription yesterday Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I personally think it's wrong that they are offering the same service for free on the PC. Not really, Xbox Live is a lot bigger and better than Live for Windows. So sick of everyone complaining how much Live is. It barely costs anything and the service they provide with it is almost faultless. You either buy it or you don't! It won't be free! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 No. Personally, I don't mind paying ?30 a year. The service is excellent. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 ?24 I pay a year for Live is more than justified by the service so it does not matter to me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Dont see it happening. It works for them on the console, why change now? PC was different, that was always free... to launch a service that charged a yearly fee on the PC was a dumb idea, even though it was compatable with the xbox. Hopefully when the Wii online / PSN becomes more popular microsoft will feel pressured to offer the service for free. I can see that transition happening at the launch of their next console... if they find it necessary. The service / experience is great... dont mind paying a small yearly fee. Beats dealing with friends codes or having to jump through hoops to get online. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Not really, Xbox Live is a lot bigger and better than Live for Windows. So sick of everyone complaining how much Live is. It barely costs anything and the service they provide with it is almost faultless. You either buy it or you don't! It won't be free! So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways. It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking. XBL should be free. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking. XBL should be free. Look who dragged up PS3! Was waiting how long you would take! If anything, PSN has suffered so many more problems than Live, its quite simple that you get what you pay for. XBL should not be free. If you don't like it then simply don't buy it. You must be using a different Xbox Live to me as I barely have any problems with it. Last problem I had with it was after Christmas when it got overloaded and such but that was solved. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking. XBL should be free. Do you really like to get into arguments?:rolleyes:: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking. XBL should be free. You pay ?40 for your 12 month Live subscrition:rofl:l: Seriously, it equates to 11p a day. I don't understand the fuss. If you aren't happy with the service provided, then don't subscribe. It's as simple as that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlusher Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Probably profits from 360 Live to make PC Live free. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjf288 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 So sick of people complaining about the PS3. Works both ways.It's ?40, that isn't cheap, and costs more than 'barely nothing'. The service is far from faultless, and uses cheap (free everywhere else that uses it) P2P networking. XBL should be free. P2P Really? Prove it I dont see my upload spiking.... ?40 is cheap for a YEARS worth of service (Providing you have a job) and it is barely nothing, it has barely any downtime and a wide selection of titles... I'd call that almost faultless... Wait what was your argument again? I dont care for fanboyism but seeing such blatent BS does provoke a response (I'd do it for any product I own if someone was spreading misinformation) As long as it puts down the face of ignorance... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted July 23, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted July 23, 2008 P2P Really? Prove it I dont see my upload spiking....?40 is cheap for a YEARS worth of service (Providing you have a job) and it is barely nothing, it has barely any downtime and a wide selection of titles... I'd call that almost faultless... Wait what was your argument again? I dont care for fanboyism but seeing such blatent BS does provoke a response (I'd do it for any product I own if someone was spreading misinformation) As long as it puts down the face of ignorance... I'm sorry mate, but he is right with that. Live online gaming is a P2P network infrastructure. That's a fact. Everything else, I don't really care, I've said my part in this topic, I'm not here to argue/provoke responses with anyone unlike some. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 P2P Really? Prove it I dont see my upload spiking.... No need to prove it mate, it's fact. P2P is free in almost every other instance but XBL. As I've said, it's a bit of a rip off. ?40 (RRP) for 12 months P2P access isn't that great. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted July 23, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted July 23, 2008 No need to prove it mate, it's fact. P2P is free in almost every other instance but XBL. As I've said, it's a bit of a rip off. ?40 (RRP) for 12 months P2P access isn't that great. You've made your point clear dude, no need to keep saying it. It will only start to annoy people. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 I was just re-stating it. People took the PS3 comment way to seriously and I didn't want this going OT. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Servers are being hosted by players, involuntarily and voluntarily. This may seem a bit daft considering the price-tag of Xbox Live - But in all my years of gaming, I really haven't experienced any real problems with this type of hosting. I'm on a 20/2 connection and I'm chosen as host constantly in Call of Duty 4, does that bother me? Not at all. I have tons of unused bandwith so might as well use it, then you can also have local players connecting and get an even better ping than normal. Unlike a dedicated which are usually based in key places around the world or at server-farms where Denmark is usually quite far away, so I don't mind at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted July 23, 2008 MVC Share Posted July 23, 2008 No need to prove it mate, it's fact. P2P is free in almost every other instance but XBL. As I've said, it's a bit of a rip off. ?40 (RRP) for 12 months P2P access isn't that great.> Why would anybody pay that much for Live, ouch. No wonder you post something like this when you pay that much. If you actually shop smart, it is easy to pick up great deals on Live. I just bought 13 months for $40 with free shipping two days ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 XBL uses P2P networking protocols. Dress it up however you like. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/650888-now-live-on-the-pc-is-free/#findComment-589577530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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