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Pretty good episode.. Started off slow but the ending was perfecto (Y) JUSTICE LEAGUE!

There is NO need to spoiler tag that. The Justice League now have Zatanna will help them!

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Great casting on Zatanna and custome design!!! Serinda Swan just look like her.

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Fictional character biography

Zatanna is the daughter of magician Giovanni Zatara (who appeared in Golden Age comic books) and Sindella, a member of the mystical ?Homo magi? race. Zatanna is a direct descendant of the alchemist Nicholas Flamel (who was a famous alchemist in the 14th and 15th centuries), and Nostradamus[citation needed]. Her younger cousin, the teenager Zachary Zatara, is also a magician in the DCU.

Zatanna makes her living as a stage illusionist prior to discovering her magical abilities while investigating the disappearance of her father. Zatanna's search for her father was the subject of the first major comic book crossover in 1964[citation needed], and in it, Zatanna interacts with Batman and Robin (in disguise and under the control of the villain The Outsider), Hawkman and Hawkwoman, the Atom, Elongated Man, and Green Lantern.[issue # needed]

Zatanna assists the Justice League of America on a number of cases before being elected to membership in Justice League of America #161. During her tenure with the group, her power level diminishes, so that she can only control the four elements of earth, air, fire, and water; this limitation is reversed in World's Finest Comics #277.

In the 1993 limited series Zatanna: Come Together, Zatanna worries about her lack of focus in using magic. She decides that her father's style of magic is wrong for her, and explores her mother's mystical heritage. This has since been ignored by most writers.

Zatanna mind-wiping Doctor Light. Art by Brian Bolland.In the 2004 limited series Identity Crisis, Zatanna is a member of the Justice League at the time the villain Dr. Light brutally attacks and rapes the Elongated Man's wife, Sue Dibny. When apprehended, he threatens the JLA members' families. Although Zatanna is prepared to erase Light's memories of the incident (as she had done to other villains with dangerous knowledge to the League), tampering with Light's mind sparks a debate among the League members: should the villain's personality be transformed in order to prevent him from repeating his crime? Zatanna, Hawkman, and The Atom (Ray Palmer) vote for such action, while Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) vote against. The Flash (Barry Allen) breaks the tie. Zatanna mind-wipes Light, and the process results in his intellectual abilities being lowered. In the midst of the process, Batman appears and tries to stop it. Zatanna freezes him, and the members vote to erase Batman's memories of the incident as well.

Her passionate relationship to Batman sours after he discovers the alteration to his memory. When Zatanna helps Batman with reconnaissance at one of Ra's al Ghul's Lazarus Pits, she asks him why he came to her. "I needed someone I could trust," Batman says. "But I had to settle for you." However, after Infinite Crisis, their relationship appears to have warmed; in Detective Comics #824 he calls her for information on a card-counter involved in scamming the Penguin. He makes no mention of their conflict, and casually calls her by her nickname, "Zee".

After departing from the League, Zatanna continues to appear on stage and to defend against mystical threats, joining the Sentinels of Magic.[issue # needed]

Catwoman discovers that Zatanna's mind-wipe of Dr. Light in Identity Crisis is not an isolated occurrence; Catwoman's journey from villain to hero and her resulting efforts to lead a moral life are retconned as being the result of Zatanna's mental intervention. Catwoman comes to distrust her memories, motives, and the choices she has made since that incident. In retaliation, Catwoman covers Zatanna's mouth with a piece of duct tape and shoves her out a window.[issue # needed]

Cover art for Seven Soldiers: Zatanna #1, by Ryan Sook.A 2005 four-issue Zatanna limited series was published as part of Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory event. In it, at a support group for superheroes, she recounts a failed magical ritual to search for her father's tomes, during which one of her past spells summons a shapeshifter named Gwydion, who kills her companions. This trauma, combined with her guilt from her former mind-wipes, robs her of her powers. With the help of her new apprentice, Misty Kilgore, she captures Gwydion to use as her own. She eventually regains her confidence and powers, and uses them to defeat Zor, a rogue Time Tailor who released the Sheeda as a plague to infect and degrade the entire universe. As a reward, the other Time Tailors allow her one last meeting with her father, who reveals that his books were written in her, his "greatest spell and gift to the world." In the final battle against the Sheeda, Zatanna casts a spell to move time and space, retroactively positioning the Seven Soldiers to overthrow the Sheeda.

In Detective Comics #833 (August 2007), it is stated that Zatanna's father was a friend of Thomas Wayne. Zatara trained Bruce Wayne in the art of escape; and Bruce and Zatanna were childhood friends (although Batman believes that he has never met in her Justice League of America #51, and her only memory of meeting him is while she was disguised). Bruce helps Zatanna investigate the death of one of her former assistants; all clues point to a performer named Ivar Loxias. However, Loxias is revealed to be the Joker in disguise; he shoots Zatanna in the throat and incapacitates Batman. Zatanna is able to heal herself by writing a curing spell in her own blood, and she is instrumental in foiling the Joker's scheme. Bruce puts Zatanna's betrayal behind him, allowing the two to renew their friendship.

Zatanna helps Catwoman, to whom she owes a favor, mind-wiping Angle Man and Film Freak, who had been subdued by Selina after the two discovered her secret identity and threatened her child.[issue # needed]

Following the flooding of Earth-26, the Zoo Crew and other humanoid animal refugees escape, transformed into their animal counterparts and unable to speak, even though they retain their human-level intelligence. Zatanna encounters the group and takes Captain Carrot as a pet for use in her magic act, unaware of his true identity[issue # needed]. Eventually, the Crew had their anthropomorphic forms and powers restored in Final Crisis #7 by Nix Uotan.

On the "Roll Call" of Justice League of America #22, Zatanna is listed as a part of the team. Called upon to aid with Red Tornado's restoration in his android form, she proves herself able to stay on the team by using Red Tornado's soul to best a new, powerful iteration of Amazo combining her mystical might to the powers and abilities of the current League.

Shortly before the mysterious disappearance of Batman and the Final Crisis events Zatanna is stalked and targeted by Hush, wanting to get his vengeance over Bruce Wayne using the people he loves most: Zatanna herself and Selina Kyle. Zatanna escapes Hush's wrath, and is able to provide help and relief to the wounded Catwoman.[issue # needed]

Paul Dini announced at Comic-Con 06 he is writing a hardcover graphic novel starring Black Canary and Zatanna.[citation needed] On his blog, Dini revealed that Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmiotti will handle the art.[

Yesterday's episode was decent, going into the past with Davis and Lex as children (Y) Liked the fact it didn't focus on Clark as much, but shame about Chloe siding with Davis at the end to keep his inner demon in check :|

Radish?

Yesterday's episode was decent, going into the past with Davis and Lex as childre(Y)Y) Liked the fact it didn't focus on Clark as much, but shame about Chloe siding with Davis at the end to keep his inner demon in chec:|:|

Radish?

I don't think it was about siding with Davis... it was more about... need to keep Davis as Davis; otherwise, he'll kill Clark. At least it's setting up Chloe as the trigger point

I don't really understand how Davis has gone immortal and invulnerable, but Clark is just prancing around Metropolis and hasn't tried to start his training or anything

I don't really understand how Davis has gone immortal and invulnerable, but Clark is just prancing around Metropolis and hasn't tried to start his training or anything

In the comics, kryptonite has the opposite affect for Doomsday. It makes him stronger, so he's become invulnerable and immortal. Nothing stops Doomsday. In Smallville's story line, General Zod created him that way - to be the ultimate destroyer.

On the future of Smallville... I agree with you.

Chloe's role in Smallville will come to end soon, as she will try to save Clark by sticking around with Davis. Eventually, we know Chloe will fail since Doomsday and Superman do fight to death. Assuming Smallville's writers will stick to that or if the seasons will go that far...

In the comics, kryptonite has the opposite affect for Doomsday. It makes him stronger, so he's become invulnerable and immortal. Nothing stops Doomsday. In Smallville's story line, General Zod created him that way - to be the ultimate destroyer.

Moreover, what ever kills Doomsday, makes him stronger, thats how he became what he is, he was killed over and over and over on Krypton. In the Smallville universe, we've seen Mrs. Zod stab him and kill him, and now he is invulnerable. Then he killed himself by gettnig chloe to swamp him with Liquid Kryptonite, and now he is immune to that too.

They are off-following the basic Doomsday storyline, albeit with a Smallville twist.

I'm still loving the show, glad the last episode actually had some Doomsday progression, but where is my Lois??

The last episode was definitely great. Tess keeps getting hotter and hotter. Also, the character development for Doomsday seems to be kicking into high gear. If you ask me, it's about time they do an episode on him

Well I get that Doomsday can never stay dead, that it only makes him stronger... but I don't get how Clark can stop Doomsday when he's still an idiot, unable to fly, hasn't gone through with his training.

Now that I know Justice League is showing up in the season finale, I can't say I'm surprised... Clark can't do **** on his own anymore

The last episode was definitely great. Tess keeps getting hotter and hotter. Also, the character development for Doomsday seems to be kicking into high gear. If you ask me, it's about time they do an episode on him

Yep good episode and I agree Tess keeps getting hotter.

I like the Doomsday storyline.

Season Finale news

Alaina Huffman is back as the Black Canary.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124101

I noticed last night that there was alot of talk from Tess about Jesus and Judas last night. Tess also talked about how if Judas never existed Jesus would have never had his greatest challenge (being killed and rising from the dead). She and others this season (Oliver) have talked alot about how they dont feel Clark will except his destiny in full until he faces his greatest challenge (or his "island" as Oliver called it in episode 3 this season).

From all this talk i think it may be safe to assume the producers are using all this talk to point out that Clark will prolly die and be resurrected. Its not really my first choice on what i'd like to happen but it all makes perfect sense since they have been hinting at it alot this season and brought this whole Jesus vs. Judas thing.

just thought it was worth bringing up since no one else has that ive seen.

what do Smallville's biggest fans think?????

Clark definately dies. The producers have been hinting at it all season. 37 56.92%

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