Wave 11 Live: Mac Edition

[Damian]

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[sanctified Veteran]

Great mod, too bad that the mod its better than the app itself :(

[NienorGT]

First time a Window WLM user is a bit jealous of a MAC WLM user lol.

[Damian]

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[NienorGT]

Wave 11 Live for Windows Live Messenger is coming soon.

its based on my old wave 11 skin. http://riangelo.deviantart.com/art/Wave-11...er-7-0-18869410

Oh, I used to have this skin back in the day lol.

[fukachu]

lol

Wave 11 Live for Windows Live Messenger is coming soon.

its based on my old wave 11 skin. http://riangelo.deviantart.com/art/Wave-11...er-7-0-18869410

You are an absolute joke!

Wave 11 is not your skin, it was made by theunknown and I, Fizical (i've changed my name on neowin). You have completely ripped us off.

[Damian]

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[fukachu]

this is not about the mac skin, I'm more disappointed with your post on DA. You make no reference to the fact that theunknown and i put this together and you claim it as your own skin. you even said here "it is based on my old wave 11 skin". you mocked it up yes but you definitely didn't make it. Im sure I remember crediting you for your contribution of resources, you could have been decent enough to do the same rather than portray others work as your own. I don't think that is much to ask. this is all in reference to your DA msn 7 skin.

[Damian]

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[alisalem]

Macs are just sleek. The only problem I have with my Dad's Macbook is mouse movement.

[giga Veteran]

Macs are just sleek. The only problem I have with my Dad's Macbook is mouse movement.

Yeah, I can't stand the default acceleration curve either. There are software solutions to fix it though which I use with my logitech.

[fukachu]

I don't see any credits to me in the wave 11 installer.

And neither in the Black ice skin description which i helped on.

http://fizical.deviantart.com/art/MSN-Black-Ice-19398396

But if it's really a problem for you I'll put your name in the description. :)

I was expecting the same in the wave 11 installer but i was wrong.

The original wave 11 was made by theunknown and if i remember correctly he had made this skin originally without any design or mock-up from you. The only way your design varied from publically available as the wave 11 leaked shots out of microsoft was the gradients which he later incorporated. Despite that, here is me crediting you for the design in a release thread:

http://forum.mess.be/index.php?showtopic=13253

Whatever went into the installer was not my doing as theunknown made all those but we usually tried to mention credits in release threads on forums. I still believe it is much worse to claim a skin made by others as your own work. I don't care about skinning anymore but i do find it cheeky when people do what you have done. releasing the exact same skin that we made under your own name and claiming it is yours is just plain cheeky and lazy.

I'm done with this topic now, i don't care if you change your DA post or anything and we don't need or want any credits if you make a new wave 11 skin off your own work completely. As i said i don't have a problem with this mac skin, it is the DA skin that bugs me.

[Damian]

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[fukachu]

can you please stop sending messages in private and on here... stop the duplicates please. use one method or the other.

sigh you just don't get it. in your original link to the wave 11 skin (not this one you have just produced) which has over 50,000 downloads you made no mention of theunknown, not a scrap. We did give you permission to post on DA but it would not have been without linking to our then functional site and crediting theunknown. we had a strict rule about linking to our site and we only allowed mess.be to host our file on their server.

Your first (earlier version of msn) wave 11 post on DA was credited, but when the update was released later on you made no mention of it. So i believe we would have checked your original posting of DA and see you had credited theunknown and left it at that, then you went and put the update on there but we never knew you had left off any credits.

as for the wave 11 idea, it was based off a public available design from microsoft, many people had thrown together mocks and so had we. i remember talking about this with the unknown because we were looking for skin ideas and we already had thought to make the wave 11 style skin and were taking steps towards that, including designing one, then your idea with the gradients came in through your mockup and we adapted to that. i had wanted to make the other leaked wave11 style skin before you popped up which is what i had been working on. it eventually became the wave 11 shiro version from memory as we tried to make sure it was different from wave 11 itself. it was something we had been working on before you came alone. but no doubt you gave a great contribution to it.

now lets drop it please and if you need to continue this then pm is probably more appropriate.