100% secure OS

[Buu]

Is it possible? Or could we still be having these type of threads in 300 years time?

[markwolfe Veteran]

Doesn't exist.

Even if you sever a nework connection, the possibility of local exploits exists.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

1. Install Linux
   
2. Disconnect network cable
   
3. Turn off computer
   
4. Encase in concrete
   
5. Bury concrete cube
   

100% secure!

(i.e. We'll never have something 100% secure, unless the robots rise up and overthrow us and start writing the OS's)

[Sethos]

Well, Install pretty much any OS* - Cut the Internet connection and don't use the computer, should be safe :p

* Windows ME not included, may suffer from spontaneous combustion or hack itself just for fun

You could also look into Skynet, may be a bit hostile but very secure.

[markwolfe Veteran]

Well, Install pretty much any OS* ...

* Windows ME not included...

:rofl:

[anarkhy]

Linux and mac are two good options if you are concerned with viruses and trojans, stay away from any windows and you will be safe.

Of course there is no such thing as 100% secure system but microsoft products are much more targeted by hackers due to its popularity.

[Buu]

Haha guess you are right! Still, seems like the only way to have a secure computer is a completely disconnected one... which is pretty pants

[PermaSt0ne]

Is it possible? Or could we still be having these type of threads in 300 years time?

doesn't exist, will never exist. anything created by man can be unmade by man

even with that concrete scenario i could dig it up, chizel it out and haxor till my eyes bleed!!11!1!

Haha guess you are right! Still, seems like the only way to have a secure computer is a completely disconnected one... which is pretty pants

nope, that's still not completely secure. if it can be accessed in any way (ie locally) then you've got major security problems

[Mathachew Veteran]

Does not, will not ever exist.

[White Cuban]

for typing credit card's and **** i got my technique, i pop in a live CD of kubuntu/ubuntu/whateverbuntu(i had linux ship them all xD) restart, do it and pop the disc out, no data left, except in live memory which fades after while

[Mathachew Veteran]

for typing credit card's and **** i got my technique, i pop in a live CD of kubuntu/ubuntu/whateverbuntu(i had linux ship them all xD) restart, do it and pop the disc out, no data left, except in live memory which fades after while

You could just use a virtual credit card..

[Salty Wagyu]

Well what if everything was revolutionised? Start from the ground up with different programming and changing the way it used to work? We seem to cling on to old code back from the msdos days or something like that

[markwolfe Veteran]

Well what if everything was revolutionised? Start from the ground up with different programming and changing the way it used to work? We seem to cling on to old code back from the msdos days or something like that

A program must always have conditions to check. Branches to make. Memory and data to create and initialize. These things cannot change by picking a new language or programming paradigm.

Each of these things yields a possible medium to exploit.

[Knife Party]

NSA linux ?

[nonick]

All OSes are 100% secure, when you cut them off the net.

[DARKNRGY]

My computer seems to be pretty secure (not anything like 100% secure) and I am running Windows Vista, UAC-enabled, and Kaspersky Internet Security 2009. And I can't remember the last time I had a virus/trojan.

[Buu]

Sure their are ways around this but what about creating a complete barrier between user files, os file and internet downloaded files. Etc.

OS Files: Read Only. Only accessible by means of secure certificate (e.g Windows Update will have access)

User Files: Encrypted. Can only be assessed by applications that have permission.

Downloaded Files: Constantly monitored, encrypted and can only be user executed.

Would that work?

[simsie]

You'd find vulnerabilities in the systems protecting the files.

[_bobcat_ Veteran]

Well what if everything was revolutionised? Start from the ground up with different programming and changing the way it used to work? We seem to cling on to old code back from the msdos days or something like that

It's hard to start an OS from scratch. Millions of lines of code. It could be very, very expensive.

There would also be the problem of compatibility. If, for example, Microsoft came up with a new OS that was not compatible with Windows, people might not switch over.

[.Kompressor]

The OS can be secure if you follow these steps.

- Install any windows (except Me like mentioned above) Linux or get a Mac.

- Never use the internet and disable all wifi or ethernet default connections

- remove all removable media drives, dvd, cd, floppy.

- install a sofware to lock the other ports USB, firewire and SD etc. (that way no one else can plugin flash drives)

- only plug in your power, keyboard, monitor, mouse & speakers.

- setup a guest account with limited control.

Done it's now secure but literally cut off from the outside world....you will be alone to play with Operating System bugs. ;)

[Pink Floyd Veteran]

Are you saying that WinMe would have to be 3000ft under? hehe

[GreenMartian]

It's hard to start an OS from scratch. Millions of lines of code. It could be very, very expensive.

People will always try to break what other ppl have created.

Lets not talk something as complicated as an OS (with its millions points of failure). Even until today, there is no such thing as an unbreakable lock. Whenever a company releases something 'unbreakable' there will be people trying to break it. And until now, at least one always succeeds.

[Buu]

So i guess... there is ALWAYS going to be a need for Anti Virus software and Firewall software :|

[medium_pimpin]

My TI-82 is pretty secure.

[Doli]

After you lock and block everything you still have to worry about someone walking up to your PC and messing with it.

May I suggest putting your PC into a tank with sharks... Sharks with friggin laser beams attached to their heads.