Does Anyone Else Miss the Good Ol' Days of Mac?

[ThehAWKs]

I have bin a Mac and Pc user and If you want to feel special again run Apples OS on "non Apple Hardware" and you will get the same looks of WoW. Apple has to set the Bar High to were people feel that they paid for the best and not have paid for the best looking.

[chconline Veteran]

Yeah, I've never owned a Mac but most people used to be so smug about their Apple computers and they used to think so highly of themselves when they would show any Apple product in class. Not anymore though and I'm pretty glad to be honest, lol.

I stopped reading right there....and i cant be bothered with a retort i will probably get a warning for.

Sometimes you just need to stand back and see how absurd you sound - for everyone talking about Macs as if they were something special and only certain people "deserve" to use them.

Macs are machines, built by Apple. They are one type of computer, among many. The people who use computers built by Apple are similar to the ones who use computers built by Dell, or HP. People who use Dell computers or HP computers can also use Apple computers, and vice versa. You are not a god because you use an Apple-built machine. You have not somehow elevated yourself above other people, who may use Windows or Linux. There is no Apple Fairy who goes around with her magic wand, bestowing the blessings of Apple to the deserving few.

If your choice of personal computer means so much to your perceived self, then maybe it is time to examine your priorities in life.

All QFTs.

Hey, Windows 98 was awesome.

Try using Windows ME. I unfortunately ran Windows ME.

Beats Windows 98 for me. That was an epic fail disaster. Windows 98 SE was another issue, but ME worked as well as 98 SE for me back in the PIII days. I don't see what's the hype with it with people using incompatible drivers and installing it on Pentium classics. In fact I used to run it on a VM on my Core 2 laptop without problems.

Of course I'm saying this in an Apple section, I'm prepared to be flamed.

[osirisX]

It doesn't feel as special anymore to own an ENIAC. It used to be that I'd be sitting infront of my office building on the side of the street and if I saw another ENIAC user we'd silently acknowledge each other. Maybe a nod, or smile, knowing we used a "better computer" :p .

And people would be like wow, you use an ENIAC? What the **** is that? (Or. EW, you use a WHAT? Get away from me, ENIAC fanatic, Colossus is better!!!!) I'd tell them all about the vacuum tubes, and the punchcard myth. (Some of you will know what I'm talking about right off the bat, I'm sure. We're the people who freaked out about the UNIVAC. ;) )

But now so many more people use ENIACS. And they use transistors, powerful, but nothing special. The mystique is kinda gone.

It was kinda elitist. And I was a stereotype in flesh. But I kinda miss it. -- Don't get me wrong, though. I still love my ENIAC.

Anyone else feel the same way?

[Cormier6083]

I remember the good ol days of Mac. If you used a Mac, you were a Mac fanatic. No two ways about it. You knew the Mac inside out. I feel the race of Macinboys is dying. Good old

days indeed. :p LOL that was so corny.

[Cormier6083]

"You people" was aimed at people who thought that way. Hence I didn't write "Also :rofl: at this perceived elitism you Mac users people hold." If any Mac users who do not share that mindset got offended by that, I am sorry. :)

I refuse to accept your apology.

:'(

:p

[DigitalE]

I remember the "good ol' days" of Mac computers when you had to start a program, let it crash and freeze up the entire machine, reboot the machine, and then start the program again just for it to work.

[sanctified Veteran]

No. A computer is just a tool, nothing more.

I had quite a machine to be elitist and brag: Powermac G5 dual 2.0ghz and 8GB RAM but in the end its just a tool, a powerful one but a tool is nothing if not used well.

[Skulltrail-old]

NOTE: READ NEXT POST. I'm forced to use IE8 Beta and it is absolutely horrible at doing the simple tasks of internet browsing.

[Skulltrail-old]

It doesn't feel as special anymore to own a Mac. It used to be that I'd be sitting in an airport terminal or coffee shop, or on the side of the street. And if I saw another Mac user we'd silently acknowledge each other. Maybe a nod, or smile, knowing we used a "better computer" :p .

So you are feeling unfortunate due to Apple's immense success with the newer Macs? That's kinda sad...

And people would be like wow, you use a Mac? What's it like. (Or. EW, you use a WHAT? Get away from me, Mac fanatic.) I'd tell them all about the G4 (Subsequently, the G5) processor, and the megahertz myth.

The Gx CPUs sucked ass. IBM should and is sticking to basic processors because their computer processors suck teh ass; aside from the Xbox's Xenon CPU. Apple moving from the PowerPC CPUs to the Intel CPUs was their greatest decision IMO.

Edited October 9, 2008 by Skulltrail

[sanctified Veteran]

So you are feeling unfortunate due to Apple's immense success with the newer Macs? That's kinda sad...

The Gx CPUs sucked ass. Motorola should and is sticking to basic processors because their computer processors suck teh ass.

The G procs are (still) by IBM.

[LTD]

This is hilarious.

You don't feel special? or are you using some other OS on your Mac rather than OS X?

Better yet, why not install Windows (any version will do) and then realize why you chose a Mac in the first place.

Moving right along . . .

:rolleyes:

[trag3dy]

I use a Mac at school for an illustrator class and I honestly don't know what the appeal of Macs are. Sure the OS looks nice, but other than that, it doesn't seem any better than Windows XP.

[Denis W. Veteran]

^^^ Excuse me?

Some people like the hardware of Macs, styling and design, quality in manufacturing, take your pick - but don't care for its operating system. Any problem with that? They should be ashamed of purchasing a Mac to run Windows Vista* or a flavour of Linux?

Remind me when being unique in OS selection was more important than choosing the right platform to get what you want done. :rolleyes:

*And what do you imply by 'any version,' as if in your world Vista is as **** poor as XP and below :rolleyes:

edit: Good post there Relativity_17. (Y)

[Reacon]

I stopped reading right there....and i cant be bothered with a retort i will probably get a warning for.

Heh...heh heh (chuckle). I see ya point there.

It used to be that Macs were better, but things have changed. Any "PC" can beat a Mac with the right hardware and Apple's ego is finally getting shoved back in thier face. Anyone who's smart will save themselves $5000 and build a PC with Intel/Nvidia hardware and just install OS X on it if they really need a Mac...

[trag3dy]

^^^ Excuse me?

Some people like the hardware of Macs, styling and design, quality in manufacturing, take your pick - but don't care for its operating system. Any problem with that? They should be ashamed of purchasing a Mac to run Windows Vista* or a flavour of Linux?

Remind me when being unique in OS selection was more important than choosing the right platform to get what you want done. :rolleyes:

*And what do you imply by 'any version,' as if in your world Vista is as **** poor as XP and below :rolleyes:

edit: Good post there Relativity_17. (Y)

Erm, I don't know if you're pointing those comments at me or what. But I didn't say it was bad, I said I just don't understand the appeal. I didn't say XP or Vista is better. In -my- experience, I like my windows xp better. Using Adobe Illustrator CS3 at school, and here at home, it just works better for -me-. This may surprise some, but Illustrator runs smoother at home for me than it does on the Mac, it hasn't crashed once here at my house, but just about every class Illustrator has crashed for me on the Mac.

So yeah, my experience on Mac hasn't been that great, but I'm not saying it's bad.

Oh, and, I don't care about hardware, that to me is a non-issue. If the end result is that I see a picture on my screen then I don't really care what hardware is used to display it.

[offroadaaron]

don't miss it, its much better now.... I hated Macs before soooooooooo much..... now I have one again after 5-6 years and im loving it.

No missing the ol' days of crap for me :D

[Denis W. Veteran]

Erm, I don't know if you're pointing those comments at me or what. But I didn't say it was bad, I said I just don't understand the appeal. I didn't say XP or Vista is better. In -my- experience, I like my windows xp better. Using Adobe Illustrator CS3 at school, and here at home, it just works better for -me-. This may surprise some, but Illustrator runs smoother at home for me than it does on the Mac, it hasn't crashed once here at my house, but just about every class Illustrator has crashed for me on the Mac.

So yeah, my experience on Mac hasn't been that great, but I'm not saying it's bad.

Oh, and, I don't care about hardware, that to me is a non-issue. If the end result is that I see a picture on my screen then I don't really care what hardware is used to display it.

I aimed the post at LTD, you posted a bit before me. So much for not using the quote button. Sorry :pinch:

As for this post: I can understand your point of view, but school Macs aren't an ideal target for benchmarking experience with Apple machines. :p For instance, the G4 eMacs I worked with back in grade 11 drove me nuts: Office X was a bit clunky, iMovie had this incredibly stupid bug that sped up imported camcorder video (so our movie editing projects sounded like chipmunks :rofl:), the machines occasionally required a hard reboot, etc. Also, as a class with almost all of them fulltime Windows users, we weren't used to having floating toolbars and document windows. So in Photoshop, we frequently lost focus of our images by clicking behind the active document. :pinch: BTW the systems were running Jaguar or Panther.

But then again, the school had old P2 systems with Windows XP.... they were *slow.* Thankfully the era of crappy school computers is behind me now. :laugh:

Edited October 9, 2008 by rm20010

[FredEx]

For a little while I got in to the looks of my case. Not the Apple style though, that stuff always looked like...uh...(gotta be nice)...sissy stuff to me. Not some serious great looking modded systems. Modding was a phase, I don't care about all that now. I am meticulous about neat wiring, that comes from years of electronics and control system wiring. I have an old In Win full tower that is built like a tank and is the good ole beige. I've had it for years, the other cases have come and gone. Once I get the system built, I don't need to hardly ever touch it except for a cleaning once in a while and that may be a thing of the past. I've gone silent with water cooling. My radiator with fans and the pump are remotely located. The case is insulated for sound so I don't hear the quiet Seagate hard drives. What I'm working on now is giving the case a positive air pressure using filtered air so no dust will enter the case. My friends think I'm crazy because I'll be using a K&N filter to clean up the air going in the case. That gets me back in touch with my old gearhead days. :)

As far as OS's, I can run Win, Linux or OSX on my AMD based system. Did the OSX thing just to try it, didn't see what the big deal is. Cutesy just doesn't do anything for me, except in my woman. I like a utilitarian desktop.

[trag3dy]

I aimed the post at LTD, you posted a bit before me. So much for not using the quote button. Sorry :pinch:

As for this post: I can understand your point of view, but school Macs aren't an ideal target for benchmarking experience with Apple machines. :p For instance, the G4 eMacs I worked with back in grade 11 drove me nuts: Office X was a bit clunky, iMovie had this incredibly stupid bug that sped up imported camcorder video (so our movie editing projects sounded like chipmunks :rofl:), the machines occasionally required a hard reboot, etc. Also, as a class with almost all of them fulltime Windows users, we weren't used to having floating toolbars and document windows. So in Photoshop, we frequently lost focus of our images by clicking behind the active document. :pinch: BTW the systems were running Jaguar or Panther.

But then again, the school had old P2 systems with Windows XP.... they were *slow.* Thankfully the era of crappy school computers is behind me now. :laugh:

As far as I know the Macs in my schools lab are all brand new as of two and a half weeks ago, I don't know what exactly their specs are. So it's not like the hardware is in any way outdated.

The hardest part of working on the Macs for me is the mouse, no right click. And the standard mouse that comes with Macs is just terrible. As far as the shape of the mouse goes anyways, I like the scroll ball.

[Quillz]

Heh...heh heh (chuckle). I see ya point there.

It used to be that Macs were better, but things have changed. Any "PC" can beat a Mac with the right hardware and Apple's ego is finally getting shoved back in thier face. Anyone who's smart will save themselves $5000 and build a PC with Intel/Nvidia hardware and just install OS X on it if they really need a Mac...

I'm very curious as to what degree "Macs were better." I mean, how do you define "used to be?" Because for me, it "used to be" that Macs had to suffer with System 1-9, you know, the operating system that lacked things such as protected memory, true preemptive multi-tasking, etc. One of the biggest reasons Windows 3 became such a huge success was not only that it was available on the dominant hardware platform of the day, but that it also offered the things that simply weren't in the Mac OS.

Oddly enough, it really wasn't until Mac OS X that Mac users got the benefits of things such as protected memory. And if you consider that Mac OS X wasn't really a true Apple OS, that means that Apple was actually incapable of making their own OS that could compete with Windows.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

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The Gx CPUs sucked ass. IBM should and is sticking to basic processors because their computer processors suck teh ass; aside from the Xbox's Xenon CPU. Apple moving from the PowerPC CPUs to the Intel CPUs was their greatest decision IMO.

CELL's fairly good also.

[se7en.hu]

Well, I've only been using Macs for 4 years, I dont miss anything, except for my first mac. 1.5GHz PPC G4 12" PB :) I loved that thing.

[chconline Veteran]

^^^ Excuse me?

Some people like the hardware of Macs, styling and design, quality in manufacturing, take your pick - but don't care for its operating system. Any problem with that? They should be ashamed of purchasing a Mac to run Windows Vista* or a flavour of Linux?

Without the OS, basically you're saying that a computer with an Intel processor, Corsair RAM, Seagate hard drive, ATI video card, etc makes it special? Except for the fact that it costs twice as much for the same off the shelf hardware, I don't see what's so special. :p

[Cormier6083]

Well, I think it all really started in 1984. Computers were more of a hobby until IBM, and Apple promised a computer that would defeat the IBM PC, and offered the Macintosh, a revolution in computing at that time. Ever since, Apple fanboys such as myself :p lol jk, have had this sort of bond with the original ideals of the company. Through thick and thin. Now, it seems kind of silly to be devoted to a product brand, but thats the way it was. People were very loyal to Apple, and still are.

[Denis W. Veteran]

Without the OS, basically you're saying that a computer with an Intel processor, Corsair RAM, Seagate hard drive, ATI video card, etc makes it special? Except for the fact that it costs twice as much for the same off the shelf hardware, I don't see what's so special. :p

While typing that post I was thinking more about their laptops. ;) I've seen a few of them running non-OS X operating systems. And, to be honest, there's a good deal of people who crave electronics with slim profiles and good performance. So the Macbook (Pro)s fit the bill.