The Avengers (may contain spoilers!)


Recommended Posts

Man, I read the title and thought this was about the real Avengers (John Steed and Emma Peel, She's the only one I've ever seen due to Channel 9's constant repeats), and thought they were going to do a proper movie based on it.

But, a movie with Iron Man, Captain America and a God with a big hammer fighting the Hulk would be pretty good as well I suppose.

haha wow I thought I was the only person that watched that! ;)

  • 3 weeks later...

William Hurt, who played General Ross in The Incredible Hulk, says he'd be happy to come back and play Ross again ? and of course, his last scene involved Tony Stark approaching him about the Avengers Initiative. [Cinematical]

Marvel has said that Don Cheadle is signed for this film already, but he has no idea if he'll be in it or not. "There isn't even a script yet," he says. [IGN]

  • 2 weeks later...
  • 2 weeks later...

Everyone wants to know about ?The Avengers? now that it?s been announced. Jon Favreau is producing but who is the director?

They're still unclear at this time, but narrowing it down to candidates. As a fan of the comics, what's exciting to me is finally seeing S.H.I.E.L.D. in action. How they take control of situations, shut things down and maybe even make people disappear. It'll be the first time we see what they really do and their advanced technology like the heli-carrier.

There's also talk of the Hulk being the villain in The Avengers. Perhaps through a misunderstanding by the team or under Loki's influence...

I think in the first Avengers film, the Hulk should be the villain, in a way. There should also be another arc in the story or perhaps a bigger storyline. The Hulk personally is my favorite character in all comics. He?s the guy who represents the inner rage and the animal inside of everyone and I think something?s gotta drive him where he thinks he?s under attack by these guys who are basically just trying to subdue him. It sets up an interesting dynamic.I don?t think the Hulk should be the main villain, but I think he should be a distraction. I think everyone else is in order and he?s the only one who, at a moments notice, can go off. He represents rage in all man.

At the end of The Incredible Hulk Tony Stark has a cameo where he says to Gen. Ross, ?You have a problem.?

Exactly. You need to have the Hulk brought under control. And that?s what they want. ?This guy could be the most powerful being on earth and he should be dealing with us. We don?t want him to fall into enemy hands.? I think if you have something like that where they are trying to wrangle him in and then realize they really do need him. That was basically the story line with the Incredible Hulk. The Hulk was always trying to be subdued, always trying to be controlled. But when the sh*t hit the fan, who would come in to save the day? The Incredible Hulk, one of the most powerful beings on the planet. The problem with that is that he?s unpredictable. You never know what he's going to do. Though they suggested at the end of that film that Bruce Banner had finally mastered control over his transformations and perhaps the monster so that element might work too.

Do you think there?s gonna be another Hulk movie?

I don?t know. I think there should be another Hulk movie because let's face it, Ang Lee's version wasn't the best interpretation. Edward Norton's Hulk was a little more faithful to the material. I wish it had been a little more successful because then it would lock him in. If somewhere down the line they do Planet Hulk which is when the Avengers try to trick him to do this mission, then sedate him and shoot him into space, that might be nice too. He lands on an alien planet, becomes a gladiator and eventually leads a race of warriors back to Earth. That would be nice to see in live action. Seeing him seek revenge on those that betrayed him, Mr. Fantastic, Doctor Strange, Iron Man, and even ripping the roof off Madison Square Garden. Something like that could be huge and I think Hulk deserves a movie like that. But the next time we see him will probably be in The Avengers movie.

What other characters are going to be in The Avengers?

Not entirely sure, but I read like everyone else Joe Quesada from Marvel posting on Twitter that he was printing out the first draft. I think it would have to be Wasp. You have to have Wasp and you have to have Ant Man who are also romantically linked. But Ant Man's own movie doesn't appear to be happening right now. You also need Natasha Romanova who is the Black Widow. Scarlett Johansson plays her in Iron Man 2, so I imagine the plan is the bring her over for that and she'd be perfect. You need Captain America, Thor, Hulk and Iron Man. Then there's Nick Fury sort of guiding them all.

Source

captainamericainhulkth.jpg

a shorter version of above and talking about the image I posted!

The inside source at Marvel who's been feeding info to Latino Review opens up again. Captain America has to be a great fighter, but also the guy who makes order out of chaos and takes charge, and even Iron Man has to follow him. The Captain America movie will almost certainly end with Cap being frozen in a block of ice and then defrosted in the present day, so he can meet the Avengers and get those introductions out of the way. Besides Thor, Cap, Iron Man and the Hulk, the source predicts the Wasp and Ant-Man will be in the Avengers. And he/she says the Hulk may be sort of a villain:

I think in the first Avengers film, the Hulk should be the villain, in a way. There should also be another arc in the story or perhaps a bigger storyline. The Hulk personally is my favorite character in all comics. He's the guy who represents the inner rage and the animal inside of everyone and I think something's gotta drive him where he thinks he's under attack by these guys who are basically just trying to subdue him. It sets up an interesting dynamic. I don't think the Hulk should be the main villain, but I think he should be a distraction. I think everyone else is in order and he's the only one who, at a moments notice, can go off. He represents rage in all man.

[Latino Review]

And meanwhile, Edward Norton once again says he doesn't think a Hulk sequel is likely. Not to be Hulk-inued! [Cinematical]

She may be good as Wasp but Antman is gunna suck so don't lump her in with him.

Yeah I agree. Antman rocks as a (supporting) literary character but I don't think he will transfer well to film. Besides The Avengers film needs more than 1 female member. Add in Scarrlett Johannson's Black Widow or Oliva Munn as Scarlet Witch (I would rather see Felicia Day actually) or maybe Sarah Michelle Geller as Ms Marvel.

My first choice for Wasp was Portman, who is already cast in a small role in Thor (grrr why?). My second choice is probably Ellen Page, who is already Shadowcat. Summer Glau might be my third choice.

Gellar would be nice a Ms. Marvel. She hasn't had a big movie in ages. As for the lovely Summer Glau. While I do like her a lot, I don't see her fitting into these superhero movies very well. Just doesn't look the type based off her previous roles. And yes Rappy, I know you have a passion for the Ant. But c'monnnn! give me a direct to video animated feature film like they've been doing with all the others lately. He doesn't fit in the Marvel universe they've made with Iron Man and soon, Thor/Cappy/Avengers. The logic of a man shrinking down to the size of an Ant is retarded. Thor is already a bit of a stretch but they seem confident they can pull it off without it being too weird.

With all of this Captain America casting news flooding the web, it's nice to see some fresh Marvel Movie news that has the potential to make geeks happy. It's no secret that director Louis Leterrier (The Incredible Hulk) would like to jump back on board with Marvel to direct another film, in fact, he's even expressed his interest in taking The Avengers to the big screen. He recently did a little interview with AICN and revealed that as of right now, that he's definitely in the running.

I am on the shortlist, but I'm at the bottom of the shortlist, I'm sure. I don't know who the other guys are, but I have a great relationship with [Marvel], and I've been very vocal to them and everyone else that I am the one to direct it. I loved my time at Marvel. I loved those guys. They're fantastic. [Marvel Studios President] Kevin [Feige] is such a passionate boss; he gets his hands dirty. It's a universe I want to keep exploring. I was frustrated with ['Incredible Hulk']. It was like, 'That's it? Only one superhero? Can I do more???' We'll see. Time will tell.

He may not know who the other directors on the list are but there's plenty of room to speculate that it will most likely be someone who's worked with Marvel on building up these comic book films. That leaves us with Kenneth Branagh (Thor) and Joe Johnston (Captain America). Jon Favreau already said he would not direct, but would work on it as an executive producer...we'll see, I still think Favreau is in the running.

Source

  • 2 weeks later...

Whedon on the Short List for The Avengers?

IESB reported on April 1st that Joss Whedon had joined Louis Leterrier on the short list of directors that Marvel Studios' is looking at for The Avengers. And you know what? The Los Angeles Times got the news confirmed.

"After some checking, insiders at Marvel Studios say no director has been signed yet but that Whedon was on the short-list and conversations took place," they say. Of course there are probably other directors on that list as well, so we'll have to wait and see which way they go.

The Los Angeles Times also learned that Emily Blunt was made an offer but passed on playing Peggy Carter alongside Chris Evans in The First Avenger: Captain America. The other actresses on that short list? Keira Knightley and Alice Eve.

  • 2 weeks later...

Whedon To Direct Marvel's 'The Avengers'

I'm told Marvel Studios is in final negotiations for Buffy the Vampire Slayer series architect Joss Whedon to direct Marvel Studios' The Avengers. That's the fast-tracked film that would amount to an all-star team of Marvel superheros, including Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.), Captain America (Chris Evans), Thor (Chris Hemsworth), as well as SHIELD leader Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson). Other signature superheros will likely be involved, but I've listed the actors in active superhero duty. Whedon has been rumored for this job for awhile, and is high on the fanboy wish-list. He's an interesting choice: despite his writing/producing TV series resume, his lone feature directing effort, Serenity, was not a hit. After Iron Man 2, Marvel has three pictures left on a distribution deal with Paramount before it moves to Disney, and the studio has been churning them out. Iron Man 2 gets released in May, Captain America will begin shooting this summer in Europe, Thor is in production, and Marvel Studios just set Pete Sollett to direct Runaways, based on the comic book series created by Lost writer Brian K. Vaughan. Whedon has written installments of the latter, so he knows how to make those superheros fly. Marvel has considered all of the individual superhero movies to be an intro to The Avengers, so the wanna-see on this one will be huge. The film will be released in the first weekend of May, 2012.

I am not sure, I think its going to be time will tell with him. I prefer it he write his own stuff he's better at that then taking on something already set in stone and motion (i.e the prior marvel films)

Yesterday we got the news that Joss Whedon was in talks with Marvel to direct The Avengers, however Variety have since mentioned that not only will Whedon be directing, he will also be re-writing the script.

Zak Penn (Elektra, X-Men 3) had been given the task of combing the worlds of Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and The Hulk in the form of a screenplay, which I imagine was quite a challenge considering we have yet to see Thor and Captain America on the big screen. Penn probably had directors Kenneth Branagh and Joe Johnston on speed dial so he could ask them about the characters, as there will need to be consistency between each film.

Many have said that Whedon is more of a writer than a director, so this should be good news for fans. Whedon has spent a lot of time writing comic books so he knows how to write superheros, and with input from other Marvel directors I expect the script to be nothing short of comic book movie excellence.

Whedon and the team have just over 9 months before The Avengers starts filming with Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Samuel L. Jackson and (hopefully, possibly, maybe) Edward Norton as The Hulk.

Source

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Removed the blue and underline as you did not post a link. This would also  be considered spamming.
    • Why it's almost impossible to produce a smartphone in the United States by Hamid Ganji If you look at the back of some Apple products, you can see the famous phrase “Designed by Apple in California, Assembled in China.” This phrase appears on products from one of the largest smartphone brands in the United States. These products are designed in the U.S., but their manufacturing takes place in China, India, Vietnam, or even Brazil. But why can’t Apple, as one of the largest American tech companies, produce its iPhones on U.S. soil? The idea for this topic came to me after the Trump Foundation launched a smartphone called the T1 and claimed that it was designed and built with American values in mind. However, this claim did not last long, as it was revealed that Trump’s phone was actually a rebranded HTC U24 Pro, with only a gold case and minor internal component changes. You see? Even a phone that is supposed to represent American values is manufactured in China. With a gross domestic product (GDP) exceeding $32 trillion, the United States is currently the world’s largest economy, while China ranks second with around $20 trillion. On the other hand, the United States is by a wide margin the global leader in various technological fields, and American companies spend hundreds of billions of dollars annually on research and development. From Apple and Google to Microsoft, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and others, American tech and industrial giants lead their foreign competitors in many sectors. The United States also has no shortage of smartphone brands. Apple, Google, and Motorola are among the major brands in the smartphone market, collectively holding a significant share. However, the vast majority of their products are manufactured outside the United States. So why is it that the world’s largest economy, home to the most advanced technology companies and industrial powers, cannot produce a smartphone on its own soil? Let’s explore this question together. Even threats to impose tariffs won’t work After Trump entered the White House as the 47th President of the United States, his administration adopted strict tariff policies. One of these policies was the imposition of a 25% tariff on smartphones manufactured outside the United States. Trump said he “had a little problem” with Apple CEO Tim Cook over producing smartphones outside the U.S. So he thought that threatening a 25% tax on imported phones might force Apple to bring manufacturing back to the United States. “I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the United States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. Image via The White House Although Apple currently manufactures some of the iPhone’s chips in the United States with TSMC's help, it still shows no willingness to shift full iPhone production to the country. At the time, renowned Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo wrote on X, “In terms of profitability, it’s way better for Apple to take the hit of a 25% tariff on iPhones sold in the US market than to move iPhone assembly lines back to the US.” However, manufacturing a smartphone in the United States is not as easy as it might seem, and many technical and economic barriers are involved. The lack of necessary manufacturing hubs There is a clear reason why many companies prefer to manufacture their products in China. China has established itself as the main global manufacturing hub for international companies, and over the past few decades, large contract manufacturers have emerged there, allowing companies like Apple to outsource production. One such example is Foxconn, which also manufactures some Apple products in India. Building the infrastructure required to produce smartphones in the United States would require tens of billions of dollars in new investment. Factories would need to be built, essential manufacturing equipment would have to be installed, and, most importantly, a skilled workforce capable of operating these systems would need to be recruited and trained. The United States currently lacks the core infrastructure needed to manufacture smartphones, and for this reason, many companies prefer to outsource production to Chinese contractors rather than spend tens of billions of dollars to build that infrastructure, which is significantly more economically efficient. Additionally, building such infrastructure in the United States could take up to a decade, ultimately leading to a significant increase in the product's final price for consumers. Shortage of trained labor in the U.S. compared to China Decades of serving as a global manufacturing hub have allowed China to build a massive talent pool in the production sector that is almost unmatched worldwide. Today, if a company chooses to manufacture its products in China, it can be confident that the workers involved in production have years of experience in their respective roles and are capable of producing high-quality goods with minimal errors. Even if we assume that tens of billions of dollars were invested in building smartphone manufacturing infrastructure in the United States, finding skilled workers would remain highly challenging. Apple CEO Tim Cook visiting the iPhone 6 assembly line in China in 2014. Image: Tim Cook on X In a 2015 interview on CBS’s 60 Minutes, Tim Cook said the main reason Apple isn’t producing in the US is a lack of skills. "China put an enormous focus on manufacturing, in what you and I would call vocational kind of skills. The US over time began to stop having as many vocational kinds of skills. I mean you could take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in the room that we're currently sitting in. In China you would have to have multiple football fields,” Cook said. Also, in 2017, at the Fortune Global Forum in Guangzhou, Cook once again emphasized the importance of highly skilled Chinese workers. “China has moved into very advanced manufacturing, so you find in China the intersection of craftsman kind of skill, and sophisticated robotics and the computer science world. That intersection, which is very rare to find anywhere, that kind of skill, is very important to our business because of the precision and quality level that we like. The thing that most people focus on if they’re a foreigner coming to China is the size of the market, and obviously, it’s the biggest market in the world in so many areas. But for us, the number one attraction is the quality of the people,” Apple CEO said. Higher labor costs in the United States Producing almost any product in the United States is more expensive than in many other countries, and one of the main reasons is the higher cost of labor in the U.S. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, median weekly earnings of full-time workers in the United States were $1,235 in the first quarter of 2026. Meanwhile, the average annual salary in China's private sector in 2025 was RMB 71,590 (US$9,961). In many parts of the world, the weekly wage of an American worker is equivalent to several months of income. Another important factor to consider is that in the United States, the workforce capable of working on a smartphone assembly line is highly specialized and therefore commands higher-than-average wages. According to an estimate by Bank of America, producing an iPhone in the U.S. is technically possible, but “iPhone cost can increase 25% purely on higher labor cost in the U.S.” However, this 25% increase applies only if final assembly is performed in the United States while components are still sourced from China or elsewhere. In this case, the price of a base iPhone would rise from $799 to around $1,000. But in another scenario, if Apple were to produce the required components for the iPhone within the United States, production costs could increase by more than 90%. Trump’s dream for a “Made in the USA” iPhone might never come true In a free-market capitalist economy, one of the primary responsibilities of any CEO is to maximize profit. Using Apple as an example, Tim Cook’s role is to maximize the company’s profits so that it can fund research and development for new products and invest in areas such as artificial intelligence, while also keeping shareholders satisfied. Therefore, it is entirely understandable that Apple would choose not to bring its manufacturing back to the United States and instead keep production in countries where labor is cheaper, and products can be manufactured at a lower cost, thereby maximizing its profit margins. What is your opinion about manufacturing smartphones in the United States? If you are an American citizen, would you be willing to pay hundreds of dollars more for a smartphone made domestically in the USA? Let us know in the comments.
    • Cheers everyone for the replies. It's been very useful. 👍
  • Recent Achievements

    • Conversation Starter
      jessse3334 earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • Reacting Well
      JuvenileDelinquent earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • One Month Later
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      505
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      195
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      153
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      71
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      66
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!